Flat-plane crank Z06 @~$85k OR 992GT3 @~$150k?
#16
I would see the car more of an addition than a replacement. I’m happy with my 991.2 and have no interest in the 992. But, Im first in line for a G4 RS and would maybe pass in favor of the Vette.
Another thing I forgot to add is, with the EU restrictions, the Germans are forced to build more muted cars. The Americans don’t have that problem.
Another thing I forgot to add is, with the EU restrictions, the Germans are forced to build more muted cars. The Americans don’t have that problem.
#17
The engine to be found in the future 2021 C8 Z06/7 is widely debated on Corvetteforum. Yes, C&D keep stating it’s going to be a high revving FPC V8, but many more peeps on the forum have looked at internal GM data re: engine options, and more believe that the car will have a TT version of the Cadillac/GM Blackwing 4.4l V8.
I think that there is a strong case for the TT V8 engine as each generation of the Z06 has had a fairly large increase in HP versus the previous generation, so lot’s of hope that it will be released with about 700hp. GM made tons of money selling lots of C7 Z06’s since there was: an Auto option; a ‘Vert option, and of course lots of power versus the C6 version. Releasing a C8 Z06 with a high revving N/A FPC V8 with less hp than the outgoing version won’t help sales as >95% of these cars won’t come within spitting distance of a road course.
And then there’s the potential warranty costs to GM of a large capacity FPC V8 shaking itself to death, ala the GT Mustangs
I think that there is a strong case for the TT V8 engine as each generation of the Z06 has had a fairly large increase in HP versus the previous generation, so lot’s of hope that it will be released with about 700hp. GM made tons of money selling lots of C7 Z06’s since there was: an Auto option; a ‘Vert option, and of course lots of power versus the C6 version. Releasing a C8 Z06 with a high revving N/A FPC V8 with less hp than the outgoing version won’t help sales as >95% of these cars won’t come within spitting distance of a road course.
And then there’s the potential warranty costs to GM of a large capacity FPC V8 shaking itself to death, ala the GT Mustangs
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Originally Posted by thebishman
The engine to be found in the future 2021 C8 Z06/7 is widely debated on Corvetteforum. Yes, C&D keep stating it’s going to be a high revving FPC V8, but many more peeps on the forum have looked at internal GM data re: engine options, and more believe that the car will have a TT version of the Cadillac/GM Blackwing 4.4l V8.
I think that there is a strong case for the TT V8 engine as each generation of the Z06 has had a fairly large increase in HP versus the previous generation, so lot’s of hope that it will be released with about 700hp. GM made tons of money selling lots of C7 Z06’s since there was: an Auto option; a ‘Vert option, and of course lots of power versus the C6 version. Releasing a C8 Z06 with a high revving N/A FPC V8 with less hp than the outgoing version won’t help sales as >95% of these cars won’t come within spitting distance of a road course.
And then there’s the potential warranty costs to GM of a large capacity FPC V8 shaking itself to death, ala the GT Mustangs
I think that there is a strong case for the TT V8 engine as each generation of the Z06 has had a fairly large increase in HP versus the previous generation, so lot’s of hope that it will be released with about 700hp. GM made tons of money selling lots of C7 Z06’s since there was: an Auto option; a ‘Vert option, and of course lots of power versus the C6 version. Releasing a C8 Z06 with a high revving N/A FPC V8 with less hp than the outgoing version won’t help sales as >95% of these cars won’t come within spitting distance of a road course.
And then there’s the potential warranty costs to GM of a large capacity FPC V8 shaking itself to death, ala the GT Mustangs
Sergio speaking with Mario:
" eh listen Mario, What is that car coming around the corner?... eeeh, it sound-a like a Ferrari.. I love-a me a Ferrari sound... I wonder which Ferr......"
"OH SERGIO! LOOK! So surprise! Yes it sound like a Ferrari but it-look-a like-a corvette-a -a mule no?? Those Americans, they-a copy our Ferrari With FPC sound eh? !!"
maybe you can tell those informed folks on the corvette forums they are misinformed?
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#22
Calexio yeah if Chevy does this car in you post...looks, flat plane crank, power and with cool options for around $110x120k msrp....it will effect sales of Porsche greatly...sway a lot of guys..myself included.
#24
If it is a fpc, revs over 8.5, and has 600+hp, the temptation will be too strong. It may or may not come at Porsche's expense for me.
If Chevy knows what is good for them, the Z06 will be NA, high reving, and possibly give up some hp compared to the C7 Z06. Then the ZR1 can be the boosted, 800hp car. Each car would have a unique character and serve its own base, and the ZR1 wouldn't automatically trump the Z06 for some as it did in the C7 generation.
If Chevy knows what is good for them, the Z06 will be NA, high reving, and possibly give up some hp compared to the C7 Z06. Then the ZR1 can be the boosted, 800hp car. Each car would have a unique character and serve its own base, and the ZR1 wouldn't automatically trump the Z06 for some as it did in the C7 generation.
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I was walking down deserted downtown Chicago streets this past weekend. I hear this absolute wailing sound resonating between the high-rises from a car approaching from behind me. It kinda looked McLaren-like from the front. When it passed me, I could see that it was a white C8. The front looked pretty imposing. The back was a little too bulky for my taste, but honestly it was driving so fast, I could hardly analyze it. It sounded great. Not sure I want one...well maybe just a little.
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CAlexio, agree strongly with you. Never wanted anything to do with Corvettes until now. C8 is a bit of a game changer, and I've been following it closely.
Think the entrance cost of a C8 allows for some great 2 car stables. A C8/C8Z + something like a 996/997 3 or 987 Boxster Spyder is hard to beat. You've got your modern + fast and analog + Porsche all for less than a 992 3.
Few thoughts... would struggle to justify buying a c8 new. They'll make a million and if you wait 4 years, they're half off. I was almost hoping the Z would be TT FPC because then they could have gone smaller displacement. I worry about reliability of a 5.5L FPC after seeing what Ford went through. Corvettes have always been pretty bulletproof so I hope this doesn't change. Very interesting that the Z will have less tq than the base model if the Z engine truly is NA; I'm still not convinced it's not TT. The base C8 is looks a little off imo. I think the Z will fix a lot of that.
Think the entrance cost of a C8 allows for some great 2 car stables. A C8/C8Z + something like a 996/997 3 or 987 Boxster Spyder is hard to beat. You've got your modern + fast and analog + Porsche all for less than a 992 3.
Few thoughts... would struggle to justify buying a c8 new. They'll make a million and if you wait 4 years, they're half off. I was almost hoping the Z would be TT FPC because then they could have gone smaller displacement. I worry about reliability of a 5.5L FPC after seeing what Ford went through. Corvettes have always been pretty bulletproof so I hope this doesn't change. Very interesting that the Z will have less tq than the base model if the Z engine truly is NA; I'm still not convinced it's not TT. The base C8 is looks a little off imo. I think the Z will fix a lot of that.
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#28
I fully appreciate what the C8 is as a piece of machinery, engineering, progress etc. But in person, the car just doesn't do it for me. Maybe the C8Z will change my mind, but having owned a vette in the past (C6Z06) I kinda doubt it.
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Leaked CAD picture of ‘supposed’ Z06 engine
I had mentioned before about the roaring debate on Corvetteforum re: the C8 Z06 engine. Majority of folks still believe this is it.
Personally for what I’d use the car for I’d be in favour of a lightweight ‘GT3 RS’ version, but I just can’t see GM giving away thousands of sales just to satisfy the hardcore road course guys. Hopefully I’m wrong.
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Leaked CAD picture of ‘supposed’ Z06 engine
I had mentioned before about the roaring debate on Corvetteforum re: the C8 Z06 engine. Majority of folks still believe this is it.
Personally for what I’d use the car for I’d be in favour of a lightweight ‘GT3 RS’ version, but I just can’t see GM giving away thousands of sales just to satisfy the hardcore road course guys. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Bish
C8 z06 with this insane engine will make people shut their eyes and go (even with ADM's!!!)
In fact, since it's just us girls talking.. I'm thinking people will buy this even with ADM's much higher than on a Gt3 ($20k plus) because the value for money on the total purchase will be so great.
DISCLAIMER: "I'm not a corvette fanboy and I've never owned one... but I have spent over a month at home and I'm starting to lose my mind a bit".
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