beg to differ … know several who brag for premium… a old friend who sells high end furniture recently told me that people used to head about underpaying for their cars and overpaying for their homes, no longer the case

it’s not about what you can afford, it’s about what you choose to afford, but in a Hollywood culture you also want to remain unanimous by telling everybody about it …

 

* anonymous * (obviously)

 

right on, well said

 

ha you do make a good point … back in the day, a few decades ago, when I was first starting out as a young engineer, I had to do a lot of research on the psychology of planned obsolescence for my product development work, and without boring anyone or taking this too far out of context, the truth of the matter is that without a “useless” product economy, we would have no economy. This used to be pretty much a North American thing, starting in the 50s and 60s with GM, who pioneered frequent shape and color model changes as a way to entice existing clients to purchase a new car, instead of owning the same car for 20 years … it then moved into other goods which became consumables, then moved into other countries and with globalization and the affordability it enabled, and with many new credit mechanisms to fuel it, it moved to being on steroids, and in effect to enable people to “borrow money they can’t afford, to buy stuff they don’t need, to impress people they don’t like” … The central point being, consumer Marketing, which is an inherently manipulative science, HAS to infuse you with feelings of inadequacy, unless of course you buy that next product, in which case you are calibrated back to being secure. This is what a product roadmap does, it unwinds product qualities and features, not all at once, but over an extended period of time to ensure you keep coming back to the fountain for more.

while there are many types of performance car buyers, at their core there are two, those who enjoy the machine and despise the attention it attracts, and those who mainly enjoy the attention and will take the performance as a bonus … I would venture to say the second is the growing piece of the pie… (the Miami effect, the last place one earth a sports car should exist, a flat quadrant with traffic lights, yet the fastest growing demographic)

 

^^^^ I can tell you a thing or two about ‘The Miami Effect’ only been here 25 years. Your points are spot on.

 

I have a 2021 Turbo S to trade. 215 455 5588

 

or sell me yours and buy the new one

 

Thanks. Sold my 2015 GT3 last August, got the Turbo but really suffer from seller's remorse. Looking for a 2022/3 GT4RS or GT3. What a world . .

 

Already told my dealer that I will never buy a new Porsche again until I get one at MSRP. They are going to lose out on decades of sales from existing clientele at this rate.

 

And yet they'll still sell every car that rolls off the line.

 

I don’t believe this for a second, my local dealer has put a 125k premium on his 2022 GT3, it hasn’t sold but it is sitting on the showroom floor with a 327k ticket on a 212k sticker. Where is your $0.00 markup GT3, Fantasyland?

 

and sadly they could care less because the line is long behind you. Every car that rolls in will be sold for market value and if that is over MSRP it will get sold to the next guy. That is the world we are in, Porsche dealers (or any car dealer) could care less about building a relationship for the future. Their feeding frenzy is in full effect and they are enjoying every bit of it. Even the so called “good guy dealers” are screwing people that even have deposits on cars selling to the next guy that walks in and offers more money.

You will not be missed.

 

This!


If it takes patience to save (or keep) $100K in ADM in my own pocket vs handing it over to some AutoNation dealer, I am a very very very patient guy with my hard earned $$$ to throw it away so that I can drive a sports cars around now!

My personal observation is that this is a common practice with Audi / Porsche dealers. I remember wanting to order a S5 back in the day when they 1st came out and Audi dealers were pretending like it was a hot potato and wanted all sorts of ADM........ I simply crossed the street an ordered a much better car in anyway (BMW M3) at a discount and never looked back.

 

I am at peace with that.

✌🏻 Porsche

 

Why is this still up for sale?