911 to Macan
02-22-2015, 09:07 PM
#16
I don't know KA, read your post were you stated "coming from a 911" which you didn't and then tried to cover by saying a life time of air cooled, so I just am not seeing were you get a comparison. You did not come from a 911, you came from a BMW, so how are you making a accurate comparison if you have never owned a 991 - 911 which the OP was asking? So if you are going to do a comparison and have never had a 991 but supposedly had air cooled, you can't make a intelligent comparison against a 991-911 to a Macan which is what the OP was asking for.
02-22-2015, 09:22 PM
#17
It's as close to a 911 in feel and experience as anything with 4 doors will get, based on my experience of driving literally everything with 4 doors. It won't be a 911, but if you're working with functionality "compromises", that's the best way to put it.
Coming from a 911, I'd recommend AS/PASM. AS will lower the COG and minimize the gargantuan wheel gap of the base suspension models, and hold the car so flat and stable/firm through turns and bumps that it gives me freakish reminiscents (all things considered) of the 911's I've driven on a track.
SC, PTV, etc. also can help bring you as close as this chassis can possibly get to the sports car feel you're used to.
There's no replacing a 911, but the Macan is as close in feel as any 4 door has come, to me at least, especially when optioned right. It even looks like a 911 in a fat suit.
Coming from a 911, I'd recommend AS/PASM. AS will lower the COG and minimize the gargantuan wheel gap of the base suspension models, and hold the car so flat and stable/firm through turns and bumps that it gives me freakish reminiscents (all things considered) of the 911's I've driven on a track.
SC, PTV, etc. also can help bring you as close as this chassis can possibly get to the sports car feel you're used to.
There's no replacing a 911, but the Macan is as close in feel as any 4 door has come, to me at least, especially when optioned right. It even looks like a 911 in a fat suit.
And to the OP, I am sorry for the high jack, I just like to ensure you get accurate answers. I will leave this one as KA is known for spinning. I believe you would be happy with a Macan and your passenger will love the extra room provided in the back and even more with the seats down. Gas milage will take a hit but with a SUV, that's to be expected.
02-22-2015, 09:32 PM
#18
Let's see from your original post.. Yup it says "coming from a 911" I am good with reading and understanding english, I am not sure of your ability to remember what you wish to say. And to the OP, I am sorry for the high jack, I just like to ensure you get accurate answers. I will leave this one as KA is known for spinning. I believe you would be happy with a Macan and your passenger will love the extra room provided in the back and even more with the seats down. Gas milage will take a hit but with a SUV, that's to be expected.
02-23-2015, 03:54 PM
#19
IMO - keep the 911. I have a Macan T with AS/PASM/PVT+ and it doesn't drive like a sports car. More like a heavy sports sedan/coupe e.g. Audi S4, sure, but nothing like a 911. Don't get me wrong, very happy with the Macan T but it is very heavy and big vs a 911. Steering and brakes will both disappoint you vs a 911.
02-23-2015, 04:39 PM
#20
IMO - keep the 911. I have a Macan T with AS/PASM/PVT+ and it doesn't drive like a sports car. More like a heavy sports sedan/coupe e.g. Audi S4, sure, but nothing like a 911. Don't get me wrong, very happy with the Macan T but it is very heavy and big vs a 911. Steering and brakes will both disappoint you vs a 911.
02-23-2015, 06:22 PM
#21
Rennlist Member
Let's see from your original post.. Yup it says "coming from a 911" I am good with reading and understanding english, I am not sure of your ability to remember what you wish to say.
And to the OP, I am sorry for the high jack, I just like to ensure you get accurate answers. I will leave this one as KA is known for spinning. I believe you would be happy with a Macan and your passenger will love the extra room provided in the back and even more with the seats down. Gas milage will take a hit but with a SUV, that's to be expected.
And to the OP, I am sorry for the high jack, I just like to ensure you get accurate answers. I will leave this one as KA is known for spinning. I believe you would be happy with a Macan and your passenger will love the extra room provided in the back and even more with the seats down. Gas milage will take a hit but with a SUV, that's to be expected.
As for Porsche Marketing saying the Macan is a four door 911, it is far from the truth, and marketing speak at its best. The Macan handles like a Cayenne that has lost 400 pounds. It is also more nose heavy than a Cayenne (weight is more front biased by 2% to 3% vs. a Cayenne).
In summary, the Macan is a great compact SUV. I own one, and love it. But, I know the 911, the 911 is a friend of mine, and you (the Macan) are no 911.
Dgags: For your purposes, the Macan will be a fantastic vehicle. You have a long commute, and that poor dog will be much happier. Make sure you get the heated rear seats. He has suffered long enough in that cramped 911.
02-23-2015, 07:22 PM
#22
I really could not live with a Macan S or Turbo if it replaced my 911. They are completely different, do not believe that marketing! If you like the 911, like the way it handles, sounds, commutes, etc. - then keep it. If you are getting tired of it, and rather have a 4-door, Macan is fantastic. But don't for a second think it is a more practical 911. Would you consider two cars? Boxster or Cayman and a Macan make a great pair. I know.
As to gas mileage. Macan S does very very well if driven slowly. Cruise at 60mph and you will be in very high 20s. As you gain speed, the aerodynamics kill it. Cruising at 80mph gets gas mileage to below 20. Going with 19s ought to help some.
Tomasz
As to gas mileage. Macan S does very very well if driven slowly. Cruise at 60mph and you will be in very high 20s. As you gain speed, the aerodynamics kill it. Cruising at 80mph gets gas mileage to below 20. Going with 19s ought to help some.
Tomasz
02-23-2015, 08:15 PM
#23
Racer
Thread Starter
On to the Macan, I drove one and liked it but don't think I can make the change. Gas mileage is garbage and that actually eats at me. I know myself too well and would eventually trade it for an Outback that gets 30 plus on the highway. I have other vehicles but like driving this one. Leaving the 991 in the garage and driving the truck to work will just lead me to selling the 991. Not to mention, I love the 7 m/t in this car. Probably just end up getting a roof transport system for the 991 and continue putting miles on her.
Good conversation here, thanks for the insight.
02-23-2015, 09:33 PM
#24
The same person trolls macanforum.com too. It is certainly not you, nor your ability to read, and comprehend English. As for Porsche Marketing saying the Macan is a four door 911, it is far from the truth, and marketing speak at its best. The Macan handles like a Cayenne that has lost 400 pounds. It is also more nose heavy than a Cayenne (weight is more front biased by 2% to 3% vs. a Cayenne). In summary, the Macan is a great compact SUV. I own one, and love it. But, I know the 911, the 911 is a friend of mine, and you (the Macan) are no 911. Dgags: For your purposes, the Macan will be a fantastic vehicle. You have a long commute, and that poor dog will be much happier. Make sure you get the heated rear seats. He has suffered long enough in that cramped 911.
Last edited by K-A; 02-23-2015 at 09:55 PM.
02-23-2015, 09:39 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
Any time someone refers to my dog as "that poor dog" we both usually get a good chuckle. He goes to work with me, goes fishing with me, family gatherings, etc... Never has he known a kennelled day in his life. Ya, poor guy.
On to the Macan, I drove one and liked it but don't think I can make the change. Gas mileage is garbage and that actually eats at me. I know myself too well and would eventually trade it for an Outback that gets 30 plus on the highway. I have other vehicles but like driving this one. Leaving the 991 in the garage and driving the truck to work will just lead me to selling the 991. Not to mention, I love the 7 m/t in this car. Probably just end up getting a roof transport system for the 991 and continue putting miles on her.
Good conversation here, thanks for the insight.
On to the Macan, I drove one and liked it but don't think I can make the change. Gas mileage is garbage and that actually eats at me. I know myself too well and would eventually trade it for an Outback that gets 30 plus on the highway. I have other vehicles but like driving this one. Leaving the 991 in the garage and driving the truck to work will just lead me to selling the 991. Not to mention, I love the 7 m/t in this car. Probably just end up getting a roof transport system for the 991 and continue putting miles on her.
Good conversation here, thanks for the insight.
02-23-2015, 09:57 PM
#26
Racer
Thread Starter
That would be the perfect combination for me too but I much prefer the cool factor and ride of the 911. I could solve my own "problem" and just drive the truck but I don't have the will power. Wish I did, but don't. I'm doing 100 plus miles round trip.
02-24-2015, 09:46 AM
#27
Race Director
6 mi. is hardly enough time to get the oil warm (and water vapor out) so I would be reluctant to take the GT3 to work in your situation. Now if you had a "long way home" route with some enjoyable twisty roads that would change the situation.
02-24-2015, 01:27 PM
#28
Rennlist Member
Any time someone refers to my dog as "that poor dog" we both usually get a good chuckle. He goes to work with me, goes fishing with me, family gatherings, etc... Never has he known a kennelled day in his life. Ya, poor guy.
On to the Macan, I drove one and liked it but don't think I can make the change. Gas mileage is garbage and that actually eats at me. I know myself too well and would eventually trade it for an Outback that gets 30 plus on the highway. I have other vehicles but like driving this one. Leaving the 991 in the garage and driving the truck to work will just lead me to selling the 991. Not to mention, I love the 7 m/t in this car. Probably just end up getting a roof transport system for the 991 and continue putting miles on her.
Good conversation here, thanks for the insight.
On to the Macan, I drove one and liked it but don't think I can make the change. Gas mileage is garbage and that actually eats at me. I know myself too well and would eventually trade it for an Outback that gets 30 plus on the highway. I have other vehicles but like driving this one. Leaving the 991 in the garage and driving the truck to work will just lead me to selling the 991. Not to mention, I love the 7 m/t in this car. Probably just end up getting a roof transport system for the 991 and continue putting miles on her.
Good conversation here, thanks for the insight.
As for the comments from others about the Macan being closer to the 991 than a Cayenne, here are some facts. Source - Porsche USA Website.
Base 991 weight with PDK: 3,086 lbs
Base Macan S (PDK): 4,112 lbs (1,026 lbs, or 33.2% more than a 991)
Base Cayenne (auto): 4,488 lbs (376 lbs, or 9.1% more than a Macan S)
Cayenne S (auto): 4,597 lbs (485 lbs, or 11.8% more than a Macan S)
The facts are clear. The Macan is much closer in weight to the Cayenne than the 991. Saying it over, and over again does not make the Macan a four door 991. Just because Porsche marketing claims it is a four door 991 does not make it one. I have a Macan S, it is a great compact SUV, but it drives like my wife's Cayenne with a 400 pound weight loss.
02-24-2015, 06:34 PM
#29
I think you, and the dog, are living a great life. Keep the 991 with the 7 speed MT (old school style), and the dog will respect you more too... As for the comments from others about the Macan being closer to the 991 than a Cayenne, here are some facts. Source - Porsche USA Website. Base 991 weight with PDK: 3,086 lbs Base Macan S (PDK): 4,112 lbs (1,026 lbs, or 33.2% more than a 991) Base Cayenne (auto): 4,488 lbs (376 lbs, or 9.1% more than a Macan S) Cayenne S (auto): 4,597 lbs (485 lbs, or 11.8% more than a Macan S) The facts are clear. The Macan is much closer in weight to the Cayenne than the 991. Saying it over, and over again does not make the Macan a four door 991. Just because Porsche marketing claims it is a four door 991 does not make it one. I have a Macan S, it is a great compact SUV, but it drives like my wife's Cayenne with a 400 pound weight loss.
02-24-2015, 09:03 PM
#30
Rennlist Member
Mine feels very little like a Cayenne, certainly not one with weight loss. Save for the similar engine which also feels different in character thanks to a PDK. The Macan delivers a closer to "4 door 911" experience (as close as one could get right now), which is the point. When I drive a Cayenne. I certainly don't feel like I'm driving my car with 2 decent sized people in it (400 lbs), it's still considerably sportier in dynamics.