All Season Tires - Yokohama or Michelin or Pirelli
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Never bought anything but Michelin last half century.
Macan was delivered with Goodyear POS that I couldn't wait to wear out.
Finally got Michelin Latitude all season 4K miles ago, and very good.
Macan was delivered with Goodyear POS that I couldn't wait to wear out.
Finally got Michelin Latitude all season 4K miles ago, and very good.
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I guess the question is since you're in MO. I assume you're forced to drive in the snow sometimes? If so I'd lean for the highest rated snow capable all-season, Conti DWS-06 or Michelin AS-4 come to mind. I have brand new 20" Pirelli Scorpion Verde all seasons that came with the car, I've put 6,000 miles on them and very happy in all aspects including pushing the car in turns but have yet to drive in snow with them. From reviews their snow capabilities look very limited but I have a truck with real winter tires that I'll drive instead. If you're not worried about snow then you've got a number of options that you probably can't go wrong with.
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Yokohama Geolanders came on our 2009 Cayenne S at 53k miles. We’re now at 97k miles and they need to be replaced, I’ve always loved Michelins so I’ll find what all season Tire Rack recommends for this vehicle. No complaints about the Geolanders though, great mileage and traction in deep snow.
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How did they perform in spirited driving on the curves? Also, how was the road noise on the highways?
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Don't overthink it, just stick with Michelin N-spec. By far the best of the Porsche spec tire options, either summer, all season, or winter. Slightly more expensive than other options but worth it.
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Originally Posted by BFT3.2
I guess the question is since you're in MO. I assume you're forced to drive in the snow sometimes? If so I'd lean for the highest rated snow capable all-season, Conti DWS-06 or Michelin AS-4 come to mind. I have brand new 20" Pirelli Scorpion Verde all seasons that came with the car, I've put 6,000 miles on them and very happy in all aspects including pushing the car in turns but have yet to drive in snow with them. From reviews their snow capabilities look very limited but I have a truck with real winter tires that I'll drive instead. If you're not worried about snow then you've got a number of options that you probably can't go wrong with.
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I have found the Pirelli Scorpion Zero Plus All Season to be just as good as the Michelin Summer tires that were on the vehicle when I bought it. I've pulled .9g on the Pirellis. Not bad for an all season. Excellent treadwear as well. (40k miles / set)
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I recently bought a 2021 MacanS with 19,xxx miles and then put another 2,500 miles on the Pirelli Verde tires before replacing them with Geolandars. I probably had ten miles on the new tires before I very recently drove from St. Louis to St. Augustine Fl and back. Since I only had the Macan for about 4 months before I got the new Geolandars, I didn't have much history with the Pirelli tires, but I can say the Geolandars were definitely a lot quieter on interstate concrete pavement than the Pirelli tires.
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I recently bought a 2021 MacanS with 19,xxx miles and then put another 2,500 miles on the Pirelli Verde tires before replacing them with Geolandars. I probably had ten miles on the new tires before I very recently drove from St. Louis to St. Augustine Fl and back. Since I only had the Macan for about 4 months before I got the new Geolandars, I didn't have much history with the Pirelli tires, but I can say the Geolandars were definitely a lot quieter on interstate concrete pavement than the Pirelli tires.
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Just picked up a new-to me 2016 Macan S with Pirelli Scorpion Zero All-Season Plus, and I can confidently report that these tires are downright scary in the wet, bordering on unsafe. I have had the rear end break loose three times now during average five tenths driving on a local mountain highway. I'm not a pro driver, but I have had track education and I do understand vehicle dynamics and driving for the conditions, and these tires just let go with little notice. For the record, I've driven a relative's Macan Turbo quite extensively with both Michelin 5P and (later) Pilot Sport All Season 5s and never had any issues on the same road in the same conditions. This corroborates user doctj's comments earlier in the thread.
*Do not buy the Pirelli Scorpion Zero All-Season Plus*
I would also skip the Pirelli Scorpion Verde: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=176
"The Scorpion Verde All Season's weak performance in the wet comes as somewhat of a surprise, as this tire led wet traction results the last time we tested it. It also came as a surprise to Pirelli, who is investigating what may have caused the loss of wet traction. We noted a change in the plant where these tires were produced versus the ones we tested a year ago and wonder what influence this change may have brought to the equation. We'll update our report with any findings."
Edit: Pirelli has a dumb naming system
*Do not buy the Pirelli Scorpion Zero All-Season Plus*
I would also skip the Pirelli Scorpion Verde: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=176
"The Scorpion Verde All Season's weak performance in the wet comes as somewhat of a surprise, as this tire led wet traction results the last time we tested it. It also came as a surprise to Pirelli, who is investigating what may have caused the loss of wet traction. We noted a change in the plant where these tires were produced versus the ones we tested a year ago and wonder what influence this change may have brought to the equation. We'll update our report with any findings."
Edit: Pirelli has a dumb naming system
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Just picked up a new-to me 2016 Macan S with Pirelli Scorpion Zero All-Season Plus, and I can confidently report that these tires are downright scary in the wet, bordering on unsafe. I have had the rear end break loose three times now during average five tenths driving on a local mountain highway. I'm not a pro driver, but I have had track education and I do understand vehicle dynamics and driving for the conditions, and these tires just let go with little notice.
night and day difference between the garbage pirelli and the Michelin latitude hp I put on. The Michelin honestly did surprisingly well even in the snow we had here a few weeks ago. Wouldn’t hesitate to buy them again.
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I live in the Colorado mountains and good snow capability is essential. My CPO 2020 base came with the Latitudes and I was not happy with their performance in even a few inches of snow. As I did on my prior two Q5s, I switched to Vredestein Quattrac Pros, which are very good in snow. They are snowflake rated and deserve the rating. I actually researched tires available for a '21 S, and the Quattracs are not available, which makes me reluctant to move up to the S.
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I live in the Colorado mountains and good snow capability is essential. My CPO 2020 base came with the Latitudes and I was not happy with their performance in even a few inches of snow. As I did on my prior two Q5s, I switched to Vredestein Quattrac Pros, which are very good in snow. They are snowflake rated and deserve the rating.
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