ErnieHeisterkamp

Hi,

First post on Rennlist. I bought my first Porsche last weekend (in SoCal), a base CPO 2021 Macan. So far I love the car (even though yes, it only has 4 cylinders), but after washing it myself for the first time today I noticed the front tires are pretty worn (see pictures).
Probably should’ve noticed this before signing for it.

I’m wondering, how worn exactly are these, how much life (%) do they have left in them?
Also, considering this is a CPO car, does the dealership take tire condition into account at all? Honestly a bit taken aback by the condition of these, not sure if that’s justified though and wondering if reaching out to the dealership would be likely to lead anywhere. Other than this they were pleasant to deal with.

Appreciate any advice!

Van Larson

Don’t look like 2 year old tires. Dry rot/cracks. Tread gouges odd to say the least. CPO or no, think replacement warranted.

jhbrennan

Take it back ASAP so they can't say you did all this in one week of ownership. I thought the CPO checklist (did you get a copy) indicated the tread depth, etc.

Terry Adams

It's been off roaded. Too new to be rot.

chassis

Did you take delivery of the vehicle with tires with the pictured appearance?

ErnieHeisterkamp

I just took it to another dealership and asked them if the tires needed to be replaced and they said they looked fine.
This dealership should not have had any incentive to tell me the tires are fine when they’re not right? They’re not affiliated with the dealership I bought at, and I didn’t even mention anything about it being a recently CPO’d car.

The tread depth also is not past the wear indicator on the tire yet.

Unsure of what to do now since if this other dealership told me they’re fine I can’t imagine my dealership would be any more willing to replace?

ErnieHeisterkamp

Unfortunately I did, yes. I had looked at the car during the day a week prior, without the intention of buying it and then when I took delivery of it a week later it was dark, so I didn’t notice.
Obviously a rookie mistake and I won’t make it again, but still wondering if I have any chance of getting them replaced now, even though I realize I gave up my leverage by signing the contract.

ErnieHeisterkamp

I just checked my files, I did not get a copy of the CPO checklist. Guess a first step would be asking for that.

chassis

The tires in the photos are not acceptable imo. Tell the selling dealer you want new tires, at least to replace the ones you pictured.

The "second opinion" dealer is toeing the line and covering for the selling dealer.

///Bruce

Take that Macan back! Tell them to get the SM right then. This is NOT acceptable. That’s dangerous.

Tell me, you feel comfortable driving at potentially terminal speeds with family or friends in there?

In my experience, most CPO vehicles usually have new tires. Not half-destroyed ones.

And if the SM balks, get the GM right then and there. Make this happen. IMO….

Marv

I would agree that this is not CPO quality, First work with the dealer to get a set of new tires.

If exausting all options there, just buy a new set of tires. Tires are cheap and you should not have to buy them yourself, but if push comes to shove, just buy them and drive your new car. Don't use that dealer again.

You could take it up with PCNA, but this isn't a faulty engine, so you may not prevail.

Congratulations, by the way. Great car!

ErnieHeisterkamp

Thanks for the advice and I really appreciate your words. Things like this can really taint this otherwise awesome experience of getting your first Porsche and it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that it’s still a great car. Guess I’ll see where talking to the dealer gets me.

ErnieHeisterkamp

Thanks everyone for the advice. I’ll reach out to my salesman tomorrow and send him these pictures (dealership is 2h away unfortunately). If that doesn’t get me anywhere I’ll reach out to the SM/GM and as a last resort Porsche NA.

I’ll report back later!

///Bruce

Mine is an hour away. So?

Nickshu

I think the CPO checklist just has a wear measurement on the tires. My 2018 Panamera CPO bought in 2022 had original tires because of low milage. I asked about the tires being aged out and was told that's not a CPO renewal requirement. Subsequently a sidewall bubbled out on one of them 2 months later.
Then again the CPO checklist I was given said they flushed the brake fluid...I flushed it myself after getting the car and it was clearly not done given the color of the fluid. Point being the attention to detail on CPO appears not to be what we all think it is.