Race chip vs Cobb
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Race chip vs Cobb
Does anyone have experience with both setups? I think I have read that Cobb is the safer system and can easily be wiped back to stock configurations. But at almost double the price, would you guys say the Cobb flash is twice as good as far as power/performance gains are concern?
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
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ImpliedConsent (03-10-2020)
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I have experience with Cobb from other platforms and was always quite pleased with it. The only real downside is that the dealer can see the number of ECU flashes (even after uninstalling) and so there's a smidge of warranty risk.
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ImpliedConsent (03-11-2020)
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So, I received the Racechips 911115 and went to install.
- The install instructions they sent were from a VW TSI. There was no operation manual.
- Finding the instructions online was a bear, but I finally found a set that an owner had created (I would have attached, but it exceed the tiny 5MB limit of the forums). Still no operation manual.
- Installation took no more than 5min and everything appears correct
- The unit did not cause CELs
- The online video and instructions for operation don't correspond with the display I'm seeing
- The display is supposed to have options for Efficiency, Race and Sport. I only see 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
- I do feel a difference in Sport (my guess 5?), but I want to feel the Race (my guess 7).
- I'm getting back with support before I push that 7 button
- The app (Racechip+) is an additional $50.00 (to work)
Last edited by ImpliedConsent; 03-18-2020 at 07:53 PM. Reason: add additional details
#11
For the OP, comparing RaceChip and Cobb is like doing the classic apples to oranges comparison. One is a piggyback
solution while the other is a re-flash. My understanding is that a re-flash will always provide better performance, at the
cost of being visible to the dealer.
For ImpliedConsent, I am wondering what you used to release the factory wiring connectors in order to install the RaceChip
loom.
solution while the other is a re-flash. My understanding is that a re-flash will always provide better performance, at the
cost of being visible to the dealer.
For ImpliedConsent, I am wondering what you used to release the factory wiring connectors in order to install the RaceChip
loom.
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There was confusion. I ordered Part Number 911115 - not knowing the Racechip+ App does not come with that PN. *In order to get complete functionality without drama order Racechip 911116*
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I have both the Racechip and Racechip+ working and operational. There is definitely a change in the driving characteristics of the car. During all tests, the Macan setting was default (Eco). On Sport, there is a new feel of the pedal response and motor response. It increases the shift points to be more aggressive. On Race, everything changes to extreme, track-like performance. It's like placing the Macan Sport+ on steroids. So, I'm happy that all is working as intended.
I will be test the Macan on several runs in the future. I'll go progressive from 0-7 on Eco; 0-7 Sport; 0-7 Sport+. This is all 1/4mile track at roughly 6100' (Bandimere)
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I have both the Racechip and Racechip+ working and operational. There is definitely a change in the driving characteristics of the car. During all tests, the Macan setting was default (Eco). On Sport, there is a new feel of the pedal response and motor response. It increases the shift points to be more aggressive. On Race, everything changes to extreme, track-like performance. It's like placing the Macan Sport+ on steroids. So, I'm happy that all is working as intended.
I will be test the Macan on several runs in the future. I'll go progressive from 0-7 on Eco; 0-7 Sport; 0-7 Sport+. This is all 1/4mile track at roughly 6100' (Bandimere)
Last edited by ImpliedConsent; 03-20-2020 at 02:52 PM. Reason: additional part number details; attach Macan Install .pdf
#14
Update Racechip GTS Black: last week, out of nowhere while driving normal, a CEL illuminated. Racechip was in "Sport" mode. Changing modes (OFF, EFF, SPORT, RACE), recycling the vehicle, etc... did nothing to change the CEL. Pulled the Racechip, went to Porsche. They fixed the CEL citing a throttle sensor (yes, I paid for the service). I haven't reinstalled since and no CELs.
Just today started the troubleshooting with Racechip. Once I get a stable install, I'll update.
Just today started the troubleshooting with Racechip. Once I get a stable install, I'll update.
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This is a common problem with Racechip for a variety of their cars. If you look at all the audi/porsche forums and online reviews about half of the customers experience CEL light sooner or later. I would go with Cobb, Softronic, or EVOMS. Pay the premium to do it right. The only piggyback system that I may try is Burger Tuning, but as far as I can tell they only have it for the 2.0T.
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