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Old 04-24-2024, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WasabiPeas
If I can't use Tesla superchargers with this Macan EV then it's a non-starter. Electrify America is awful - lots of complaints about broken or slow chargers. Buy an ICE Macan now while you still can. They will be highly sought after when the Macan EV is all that Porsche will be selling.
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My wife and I put a thousand miles a month on our EV and we've never once used public fast charging in the 18 months we've had the car. L2 charge at home and the occasional free L2 charge in public.
One of the non-negotiables to owning an EV is having a charging system at home.

Granted, for those that live in condos or apartments, that may not be (easily) feasible. So I get that perspective in terms of being anti-EV because of range anxiety and/or lack of public charging infrastructure.

But for those who are anti-EVs because they contend they routinely drive 200+ miles a freaking day, what kind of life do those people live? 200 miles a day? That's like at least 3 hours in the car. A day, every day? Who the hell lives like that.

That's a straw man argument if there ever was one.

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Old 04-25-2024, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
One of the non-negotiables to owning an EV is having a charging system at home.

Granted, for those that live in condos or apartments, that may not be (easily) feasible. So I get that perspective in terms of being anti-EV because of range anxiety and/or lack of public charging infrastructure.

But for those who are anti-EVs because they contend they routinely drive 200+ miles a freaking day, what kind of life do those people live? 200 miles a day? That's like at least 3 hours in the car. A day, every day? Who the hell lives like that.

That's a straw man argument if there ever was one.
you don't need to have a freak8ng day for EV anxiety, just leave your home 100% fully charged (good boy you didnt forget to plug it last night right?)
Then fast in some city traffic and first lane on highway, to reach your 90 miles only away customer without a free 100kW free charger waiting for you...
Shall we buy an ICE backup car just in case?

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Old 04-25-2024, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cerb1958
I am going to wait for the EV Macan GTS. My current ride is ICE Macan GTS. Just test drove a Taycan GTS. For me. GTS is THE model to get.
Totally agree on the Macan GTS. Fabulous driver SUV. Miss my 2023 Macan GTS which sadly was totaled late last year. We still have our 2018 Macan GTS which is still great, but the new ones especially with a Cobb tune are so much fun.

Be interesting if Porsche adds the GTS to the Macan EV line, my guess is no, at least in the short term. Turbo is filling that position right now. I think more likely is a rear wheel drive base Macan EV as next model. Maybe as the line up matures over the next several years, maybe they add it.



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Originally Posted by fxz
you don't need to have a freak8ng day for EV anxiety, just leave your home 100% fully charged (good boy you didnt forget to plug it last night right?)
Then fast in some city traffic and first lane on highway, to reach your 90 miles only away customer without a free 100kW free charger waiting for you...
Shall we buy an ICE backup car just in case?
Huh? I’d just drive home.
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Totally agree on the Macan GTS. Fabulous driver SUV. Miss my 2023 Macan GTS which sadly was totaled late last year. We still have our 2018 Macan GTS which is still great, but the new ones especially with a Cobb tune are so much fun.

Be interesting if Porsche adds the GTS to the Macan EV line, my guess is no, at least in the short term. Turbo is filling that position right now. I think more likely is a rear wheel drive base Macan EV as next model. Maybe as the line up matures over the next several years, maybe they add it.
Interesting data point:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...v-first-drive/

With 50 percent more power and torque than the Macan 4, the new Turbo is—to no surprise—the fastest Macan ever. And not by a small margin. Full throttle acceleration is close to painful, with the forces barely seeming to diminish as the numbers on the speedometer scroll upwards. Porsche claims a 3.1-second 0-60 mph time—which goes with the territory for any sharp-end EV—but real context comes with the official 11.7-second 0-124 mph time. That is a full 5.2 seconds inside the corresponding time for the Macan GTS. That’s not different league, it’s different sport.”


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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
One of the non-negotiables to owning an EV is having a charging system at home.

Granted, for those that live in condos or apartments, that may not be (easily) feasible. So I get that perspective in terms of being anti-EV because of range anxiety and/or lack of public charging infrastructure.

But for those who are anti-EVs because they contend they routinely drive 200+ miles a freaking day, what kind of life do those people live? 200 miles a day? That's like at least 3 hours in the car. A day, every day? Who the hell lives like that.

That's a straw man argument if there ever was one.
I drive about 80 miles a day on average in my work car (some days it's over 100 miles and some days it's 15-20 miles). I think I can count on one hand how many days in a year I'd drive 200+ miles for work and I have a pretty good idea how much "charge" I need each day so not having a 300+ mile range isn't a big deal. That being said, it'll be nice to have a 300+ mile range when I get my Macan which means less frequent charging.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit

But for those who are anti-EVs because they contend they routinely drive 200+ miles a freaking day, what kind of life do those people live? 200 miles a day? That's like at least 3 hours in the car. A day, every day? Who the hell lives like that.

That's a straw man argument if there ever was one.
Not a straw man argument whatsoever. I used to do it with my first job. 37k to 40k miles / year.

Fast forward two decades later and I was doing it again. My commute to office and back was 90 miles. Some days I went to project sites and it was 140-150 miles. Other days I went from Houston to Dallas and back for other projects and that was 450 miles. All in a Tesla Model 3. I managed, but I did charge at home. After 2 years of that, plus other job crap, I decided that was a single young man's game or for someone who hates their family and quit. LOL.
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Not a straw man argument whatsoever. I used to do it with my first job. 37k to 40k miles / year.

Fast forward two decades later and I was doing it again. My commute to office and back was 90 miles. Some days I went to project sites and it was 140-150 miles. Other days I went from Houston to Dallas and back for other projects and that was 450 miles. All in a Tesla Model 3. I managed, but I did charge at home. After 2 years of that, plus other job crap, I decided that was a single young man's game or for someone who hates their family and quit. LOL.
Again, that was my point (though obliquely made)

If you (not you specifically but "you" in the generic sense) is making a daily commute of 150-200 miles for work, then the problem is not your choice of, or mode of, transportation, but your life and career choices.



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