gmaki

EDIT: Updated instructions Feb 26th 2016

Link to google doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...kEw/edit#gid=0

You now only need to provide me with your VIN, or just the last 6 digits of your VIN for me to match your name to your car in the database. Since I have probably already got your VIN and specs entered. Once you have been registered to your specific vehicle I will highlight the row in blue and let you know what your ID# is.

If you want your RL username to be Public, please let me know and I will also show that on the database. If you do not want your username known I will just highlight the row and put a "Y" in the RL column.

Orig Post:

Because I have too much time and GT4's have started to appear on dealer websites I went through all the dealers I could find, state by state and logged the VIN #'s of every GT4 listed (along with some basic config data), as well as those of the cars on autotrader and cars.com. In all I found 71 cars.

I don't know much about decoding Porsche VIN#'s but I figure that the last 6 digits seem to be sequential. What I do not know if they are sequential to Caymans overall or just to GT4's.

In any event the VIN #'s range from a low of 197094 up to 197581, which makes some sense if these were US GT4 only sequential #'s and there have been 600 cars allocated to US. I would be surprised if it was that simple though.

Some other interesting data.

Of all the colors found White is by far the most popular at 30% of the total. Carmine Red, Carrara White Metallic, and Jet Black Metallic are the rarest colors at 3% each. I didn't see any PTS cars.

Also the seat choices. 42% 2 ways, 40% 18 ways, and 18% LWB's.

Steel Brakes 61% against 39% PCCB's

Sport Chrono was specc'd on 80% of the cars. That surprised me.

Bardman

39% pccbs surprises me for what is supposed to bethe entry level gt car. Combine that with over 80% non lwbs = strange. Unless non lwbs is just a reflection of the shortage.

FORENN

Bingo.

gmaki

I am sure the LWB issue is a product of the shortage. The vast majority of the LWB cars are centered around a range of VINs.

Between 197221 and 197282, 8 of 11 cars have LWB's. So you can kind of see how there were periods where LWB's were being specced and others where there are simply none. Again this is assuming the numbers are sequential and cars are built in order.

The biggest surprise to me is the percentage of Sport Chrono cars. given how many on Rennlist regard it as a useless option. It makes me wonder if there are a disproportionate number of dealers specced cars in this sample. Remember all I have here are the vehicles that have been listed for sale on dealer sites.

FORENN

Dealers I have talked with regarding both the GT3 and GT4 have all suggested or encouraged sport chrono. They don't read RL and are typically not enthusiasts, so they are not in touch. I showed one dealer a couple of RL threads on SC and he replied: "Wow, I had no idea. I thought everyone loved it."

bigkraig

You used to be able to drop the VIN into this URL and get all of the details. It looks like they have updated it though. Anyone able to get a new link?

http://admin.porschedealer.com/repor...AB2A80FK181628

Mike J

Wow, impressed with how much time you have, interesting analysis so thanks! Interesting that the "rarer" color choices are that low, did you break down the other color choices (like GR etc..).

Cheers,

Mike

gmaki

White 21 30.00%
Racing Yellow 10 14.29%
GT Silver Metallic 9 12.86%
Agate Grey 7 10.00%
Red 6 8.57%
Black 4 5.71%
Sapphire Blue Metallic 4 5.71%
Dark Blue Metallic 3 4.29%
Carrara White 2 2.86%
Carmine Red 2 2.86%
Jet Black Metallic 2 2.86%

Mike J

That is a really interesting distribution - and it seems to contrast against this forum, where the more unusual colors seem to get the most interest. Yellow is pretty popular, and I would have thought Sapphire to be more popular than just four out of 70 cars.

I wonder if the data is not biased in any way? Are these GT4's that are advertised on dealer sites for sale, or ? (given I would have expected the number for sale to be practically zero).

Do you think the numbers represent the true distribution, or one that is the distribution dealer-ordered orientation?

Cheers,

Mike

FORENN

No rhodium, wow. Folks who ordered rhodium are in for a treat.

gmaki

I think it is both. When the dealers list their cars they do list the SOLD cars which were custom orders, but I am sure that they also list the dealer order cars if they have them.

There is one example where there are two identical cars, which are sequential in VIN (One digit removed) but they went to different dealers. So those can't be customer ordered cars. Both those cars are GT Silver, so that would skew that number a bit right there.

Edit: actually I just noticed there were three identical GT Silver cars ordered. The third one is 3 digits removed from the other two. Two of them went to Auto Gallery, and one went to Circle. Of course there may be even more in that sequence that just aren't listed anywhere. So if you are offered a GT Silver car with 2 ways and partial leather keep in mind it is not one of a kind! lol.

jfr0317

For what it's worth, my recently delivered car has a VIN that is in the lower portion of the range listed. It has the 18-way adaptive sport seats and the Sport Chrono/Track Precision option. I'm too old and fat for the Light Weight Buckets, and I like to play with gadgets. Plus, I like having the clock.

Accel Junky

I noticed most of the cars listed on Autotrader are $100K plus MSRP. Maybe folks are speccing the heck out of these things for the long haul or maybe there are lots of players with plenty of money... I figured there would be a lot of people new to the brand like myself that are graduating up to the GT4 (and probably because it is under $100k base?).

hadokenny

nice data and analysis you got there!

Bonzai30

The popularity of the sport chrono may be a function of the track precision app. I don't think you can get the track precision app without the sport chrono.