it's raining GT4s
12-08-2015 | 04:07 PM
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12-08-2015 | 04:19 PM
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In this market I think it's only fair that the dealer makes sure he sells to a motivated buyer. Why let someone spec a car and then risk someone walking when car arrives. $10k non refundable seems fair to me.
I like that better than charging $10k over to begin with.
The lists would be a lot shorter if we had to put down $5k non refundable to get on a list. Would give Porsche a better picture of actual demand.
Maybe that would slow down the silly game of charging so much over MSRP?
I like that better than charging $10k over to begin with.
The lists would be a lot shorter if we had to put down $5k non refundable to get on a list. Would give Porsche a better picture of actual demand.
Maybe that would slow down the silly game of charging so much over MSRP?
Seems as though someone mentioned in another thread that PNH received around 15 allocations during the most recent round.
12-08-2015 | 04:20 PM
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My first ever track event was with Driver's Edge in March 2010 (I think) at TWS, and it had 7 wrecks just on Saturday, including one that put the passenger side of the car into a corner worker station badly enough to cause that instructor to decide to stop instructing. As a newbie, needless to say this had me a little worried. So I asked Rick if this was just par for the course at track events, and he assured me that it absolutely wasn't, that they'd gone for several events until that one without a single incident, and that Sunday's instructor meeting had been a serious discussion about what the hell was going on out there. Fortunately I've found that his assurance was accurate and that accidents are indeed the exception rather than the rule, but of course every now and then something happens.
At a recent Edge Addicts CotA event a brand new Z06 got on the power too quickly on T20 exit, lost control, and bit the inside wall of the straight. Upon further inspection his suspension at the front left was hosed, but his paint didn't have a scratch thanks to his speed and wheel position at impact. Unfortunately, while that car was being loaded onto a flatbed, they didn't use a wheel dolly and dropped it, of course leaving his paint and bodywork no longer immaculate.
12-08-2015 | 05:09 PM
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This, but every now and then there are red-misted solo drivers and such. I heard that a 458 that had been taking passes without point-bys ended up in the wall at the top of the T1 hill, so he must have braked way late. No details on any others.
My first ever track event was with Driver's Edge in March 2010 (I think) at TWS, and it had 7 wrecks just on Saturday, including one that put the passenger side of the car into a corner worker station badly enough to cause that instructor to decide to stop instructing. As a newbie, needless to say this had me a little worried. So I asked Rick if this was just par for the course at track events, and he assured me that it absolutely wasn't, that they'd gone for several events until that one without a single incident, and that Sunday's instructor meeting had been a serious discussion about what the hell was going on out there. Fortunately I've found that his assurance was accurate and that accidents are indeed the exception rather than the rule, but of course every now and then something happens.
At a recent Edge Addicts CotA event a brand new Z06 got on the power too quickly on T20 exit, lost control, and bit the inside wall of the straight. Upon further inspection his suspension at the front left was hosed, but his paint didn't have a scratch thanks to his speed and wheel position at impact. Unfortunately, while that car was being loaded onto a flatbed, they didn't use a wheel dolly and dropped it, of course leaving his paint and bodywork no longer immaculate.
My first ever track event was with Driver's Edge in March 2010 (I think) at TWS, and it had 7 wrecks just on Saturday, including one that put the passenger side of the car into a corner worker station badly enough to cause that instructor to decide to stop instructing. As a newbie, needless to say this had me a little worried. So I asked Rick if this was just par for the course at track events, and he assured me that it absolutely wasn't, that they'd gone for several events until that one without a single incident, and that Sunday's instructor meeting had been a serious discussion about what the hell was going on out there. Fortunately I've found that his assurance was accurate and that accidents are indeed the exception rather than the rule, but of course every now and then something happens.
At a recent Edge Addicts CotA event a brand new Z06 got on the power too quickly on T20 exit, lost control, and bit the inside wall of the straight. Upon further inspection his suspension at the front left was hosed, but his paint didn't have a scratch thanks to his speed and wheel position at impact. Unfortunately, while that car was being loaded onto a flatbed, they didn't use a wheel dolly and dropped it, of course leaving his paint and bodywork no longer immaculate.
The 458 in T1, claimed brake failure, but there are tire marks all the way to the gravel, and its clearly the path he took all the way to the wall. There is video from the car behind him, and you can see he is over driving the car, as he goes off coming out of both T19 and T20 immediately prior to his wreck. Nevermind his line through the remainder of the course.
Not sure what happened with the BMW in the esses, and the C5 or C6 in T17-T18, and I believe there was also a 996 in the instructor run group that went off sunday morning during drivers meeting.
All I know is, I can't afford to fix COTA, so if I hit the wall, here are the keys!!
12-08-2015 | 05:48 PM
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Would agree with all of this. The GTR that hit the wall in T20 did exactly the same. There is video from both the car in front and the car behind
The 458 in T1, claimed brake failure, but there are tire marks all the way to the gravel, and its clearly the path he took all the way to the wall. There is video from the car behind him, and you can see he is over driving the car, as he goes off coming out of both T19 and T20 immediately prior to his wreck. Nevermind his line through the remainder of the course.
Not sure what happened with the BMW in the esses, and the C5 or C6 in T17-T18, and I believe there was also a 996 in the instructor run group that went off sunday morning during drivers meeting.
All I know is, I can't afford to fix COTA, so if I hit the wall, here are the keys!!
The 458 in T1, claimed brake failure, but there are tire marks all the way to the gravel, and its clearly the path he took all the way to the wall. There is video from the car behind him, and you can see he is over driving the car, as he goes off coming out of both T19 and T20 immediately prior to his wreck. Nevermind his line through the remainder of the course.
Not sure what happened with the BMW in the esses, and the C5 or C6 in T17-T18, and I believe there was also a 996 in the instructor run group that went off sunday morning during drivers meeting.
All I know is, I can't afford to fix COTA, so if I hit the wall, here are the keys!!
An incident in the carousel is almost always because the driver lifted (usually after the rear end stepping out or realizing he's about to go wide off the outside), which will cause the rear end to step out and eventually send the car into the inside wall if not properly recovered. People don't seem to realize how heavily their cars are sideloaded through there. If my car got loose in the carousel, I'd do a quick flick or two of countersteer to try to get it back under control, but failing that I'd try to straighten up and drive off the outside, reducing throttle very little or not at all (depending on why the rear stepped out) until the car was back under control. There's quite a bit of pavement on the outside of the carousel and then some gravel even after that. Now most of that outside pavement is painted, however, so if it's in the rain, you may still be screwed.
12-21-2015 | 09:04 PM
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I've been in the GT4 subforum almost daily since the car was announced in February. I read every thread. It took me a few weeks to change gears from hunting for a unicorn 997.2 GT3 to focusing on getting the GT4. Unfortunately, by the time I was added to the waiting list in early March at a local dealer my chances were pretty much nothing, especially as a first-time Porsche customer and a California resident.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
12-21-2015 | 09:19 PM
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Bravo on securing a GT4 allocation!
I've been in the GT4 subforum almost daily since the car was announced in February. I read every thread. It took me a few weeks to change gears from hunting for a unicorn 997.2 GT3 to focusing on getting the GT4. Unfortunately, by the time I was added to the waiting list in early March at a local dealer my chances were pretty much nothing, especially as a first-time Porsche customer and a California resident.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
Bravo on securing a configurable GT4 allocation at MSRP! Nice work. I hope you enjoy your ride...and I am sure it will bring you a ton of extra pleasure as a result of your yeoman's leg work.
12-22-2015 | 03:18 AM
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I've been in the GT4 subforum almost daily since the car was announced in February. I read every thread. It took me a few weeks to change gears from hunting for a unicorn 997.2 GT3 to focusing on getting the GT4. Unfortunately, by the time I was added to the waiting list in early March at a local dealer my chances were pretty much nothing, especially as a first-time Porsche customer and a California resident.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
That didn't stop me from emailing my Brand Ambassador or giving him a call every few months to see where I ranked on the list and if he had any news. I really like the fact that my BA is an enthusiast and PCA instructor who I can just talk shop with, so I didn't have my name on any other lists and was just crossing my fingers to get a car through him. I began losing hope after the last round of November allocations, especially since my dealer received a good number of allocations and still didn't get to my number on the list.
So last week after reading this thread, and the assertion of "it's raining GT4s," I decided to take things into my own hands. As Wayne Gretzy said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I emailed 93 dealers outside of CA inquiring if they had a configurable allocation and were willing to sell to an out-of-state buyer at MSRP.
I can tell you that it's not "raining GT4s." If you're willing to pay over MSRP, as is the customary practice among most dealers in CA, then there are a few cars out there across the county. I found 4 configurable allocations priced above MSRP (1 @ +$25k, 2 @ +$10k, 1 @ +$5k). If you're still looking and want to know where these are located, feel free to PM me.
I did manage to find 2 configurable allocations at MSRP. I jumped on the first one within 30 minutes after receiving the email, only to find out within 60 minutes that another salesman at the dealership had received a deposit from a customer that he'd been working with for a couple days. My hopes were a bit dashed, but I soldiered on. I received another email on Saturday for an allocation that recently fell through, and responded within 18 minutes. The dealer had my deposit in hand within two hours and I am now V200 with an April build that has LWB seats.
tl;dr There are some, but very few configurable allocations out there. If you really want one, do some leg work, move fast when you find one (as mooty always says), and it can be parked in your garage next year.
Wonder how many GT4 owners are first time Porsche owners?
12-22-2015 | 07:11 AM
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12-22-2015 | 09:12 PM
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