bk_911

Auto rev match I want to make it permanently on!!!

IrishAndy

Very cool! Can't wait to see the full video!

number 9

I think that auto blip is thrown in to desensitize the rest of us old-school manual guy so we might more willingly wrap around PDK in the future

It's suprising to hear some folks claim to be die hard manual freaks but are now loving this auto blip feature. I had it turned on only once by mistake and I'll not be pressing this again on purpose. Hate it personally. Why push the easy button so everyone thinks you know how to make race car sounds? We cruise around in a brand new $100k car and most of us seem to need a button! Why not get in touch with your new car and learn how to heel/ toe for real? Earn it. No wonder the crowd on the gt3 forum is ragging on us over our angst about deviated stitches, lol.

I say this all in jest of course (sort of), don't want to upset anybody with sensitive feelings over their sport button

DeerHunter

Meh, I know how to heel 'n toe just fine. Also, couldn't give a rodent's patoot about impressing bystanders with my mad skillz (most would just assume it's some form of PDK in any case). Regardless, I love the autoblipper, since it sounds awesome. It makes me smile and that puts me in touch with my car just fine.

GAZZ

Same here.
Been H&T the old Cayman every day on track and the street. Nobody ever said nice blipping. But a lot say NICE EXHAUST (Capristo in open mode).

Sure I can H&T while trail braking around a corner all at the same time. Its not easy but you would be hard pressed on a track day to do this 200 times without making a small error.

Also I dont think the GT4 is set up very good for a manual H&T, IMO the accel pedel is not sensitive enough for this, unlike older 987.2 with sport mode is about perfect, IMO.

neanicu

Certainly that is your opinion. I have yet to find a manual Porsche that is not set up perfectly for heel and toe.

STLPCA

After several decades of driving manual transmission cars, including several Triumphs, I consider myself proficient at heel and toeing and enjoy that skill. However, I have to admit that the auto blip is both faster and better than I am. Plus, it's 100% consistent, more so than any human being.

I sometimes push sport for entertainment on the street, but expect I'll run in sport on the track as a happy middle ground between the speed and unfailing accuracy of PDK and the enjoyment of a manual. Besides, if you want the added cooling, you have to take the auto blip, absent a software hack.

Carcam

OK, so what does the Sport Chrono do besides the clock and app? Does hitting the Sport Plus button change the throttle mapping? Does it blip and burble more? My SA thinks it's important for resale (couldn't agree more with a PDK!) and when he drove a GT4 he said there was a more responsive throttle and more enhanced rev-matching. Do I need Sport Chrono if I don't want to use the app and don't care for the clock? Thanks!

IrishAndy

That's funny you should mention that. It's so easy to get sucked into using something automated once you know it's there. It is a temptation

I have to say I'm with you on the whole heel n toe thing to some extent. Yes, it's faster and more efficient, but so is PDK. Do I want that? Nope. That's exactly why I got this car. To each there own, though.

Three very specific use cases where the auto-blip can be used selectively IMO without fear of turning to the dark side:
1- Run in. I don't heel n toe perfectly, and sometimes I get it plain wrong. The auto-blip presumably provides maximum mechanical sympathy at a time when you're trying to bed in the drivetrain with maximum respect.
2- Learning to heel n toe. Sometimes it's nice to hear what the computer does and then try to mimic it (as much as is feasible)
3- Off mornings. I found it useful occasionally for early in the morning when sometimes I just seem to have two left feet. Sometimes my manual blips are way off until my head wakes up.

Personally I choose to leave well alone outside of the above, but that's a personal choice. Trying to do something perfectly yourself, failing, and then trying all over again is part of the interaction that I crave with this and other manual cars.

neanicu

So,you're basically saying you are not reading any of the posts on this forum.
Let me see if you'll answer this post. Perhaps you have me on ignore,in which case you will not see my posts.
Just kidding of course,but seriously,do you not read other people's posts?
Your SA doesn't know what he's talking about,as it's the case with most SAs.

Carcam

No neanicu, I would never ignore you. And as soon as I posted this I saw another thread about SC... So I get the autoblip with the Sport button and without SC but does it enhance the throttle response? Not that it matters. I realize now that it's a $2k clock if you don't use the track apps. I ordered my GT4 Friday and dropped the SC because of what I read here and my SA insisted I added it back. I have until December before it's locked so I'm second guessing every order decision (should I change my color?), etc.

jphughan

Not sure if this will work with the GT4 given the different function of the Sport button here, but in case you weren't aware of this: http://t-design9.com/sport_mode_mod.html.

neanicu

Here's my post about the Sport button :

The Sport button does not influence throttle response in any way shape or form.
The Sport Chrono adds the center clock,Track precision app and a few features like the Gear shift assist. That's it! IT DOES NOT MODIFY THROTTLE RESPONSE and IT CERTAINTLY DOES NOT ADD PERFORMANCE PARTS LIKE THE ADAPTIVE ENGINE MOUNTS! Those come standard in this car.

DeerHunter

The GT4 has a single throttle map, period. Sport Chrono gives you the dash clock, the laptimer app and a few more screens on your display (e.g. G-meter, shift indicator) - nothing else. The Sport button turns on autoblipping and electronically opens the thermostat in anticipation of sportier driving (i.e. you run cooler, even during cruise) - nothing else.

EDIT: What neanicu said.

Carcam

Thanks neanicu and DeerHunter. I get it now and my SA was wrong- whew. Just saved some bucks. (sorry deer hunter)