Australian GT4s
I was wondering what information people have with respect to GT4s in Australia?
When I first ordered, I heard there were originally only 30 allocated to Australia and I was number 70 something on the list. I think due to the LWB issue I was bumped up the list, but I never heard confirmation of how many are coming in to the country. I have an Agate Grey one arriving in a few weeks (in Melbourne). Who else is getting one? With what specs and when does it arrive? |
Hi, I sent you a PM last week but the message system doesn't seem to alert so you probably haven't seen it.
I was also told 30 cars which may have become 32 ish but not much more than that I believe. I originally ordered with LWB's but after sitting in my friends RS4.0 found they didn't suit me so changed to 18ways. had I done that at the start I probably would have got mine sooner. At this stage its an October build so probably December delivery. PM me and i will give you my contact details. Cheers Chris |
I'm a sapphire blue with the LWB's in Sydney. Tried out the seats in an RS at goodwood and I was very happy with them. Delivery should be in November but the service I've received so far is somewhere between mediocre and pisspoor so I'm not exactly sure when it's coming.
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I'm sapphire blue in Melbourne (Club Sport pack). Like Chris mine is due for an October build.
I'd heard originally the allocation was 10 per dealership which makes it a lot more than 30 in total. Presuming you other guys aren't on PFA already (Bardman + IMOA), plus the 2 other mates I know with orders that makes 7 known orders already which suggests the "30 only" is unlikely. One of my mates was #1 apparently and by all accounts his ship docked on the weekend so we should see it soon - but his was the only one we knew of that wasn't slated for an October build. |
Originally Posted by IMOA
(Post 12557982)
I'm a sapphire blue with the LWB's in Sydney. Tried out the seats in an RS at goodwood and I was very happy with them. Delivery should be in November but the service I've received so far is somewhere between mediocre and pisspoor so I'm not exactly sure when it's coming.
Cheers Chris |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12557901)
Hi, I sent you a PM last week but the message system doesn't seem to alert so you probably haven't seen it.
I was also told 30 cars which may have become 32 ish but not much more than that I believe. I originally ordered with LWB's but after sitting in my friends RS4.0 found they didn't suit me so changed to 18ways. had I done that at the start I probably would have got mine sooner. At this stage its an October build so probably December delivery. PM me and i will give you my contact details. Cheers Chris
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 12557986)
I'm sapphire blue in Melbourne (Club Sport pack). Like Chris mine is due for an October build.
I'd heard originally the allocation was 10 per dealership which makes it a lot more than 30 in total. Presuming you other guys aren't on PFA already (Bardman + IMOA), plus the 2 other mates I know with orders that makes 7 known orders already which suggests the "30 only" is unlikely. One of my mates was #1 apparently and by all accounts his ship docked on the weekend so we should see it soon - but his was the only one we knew of that wasn't slated for an October build.
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12558076)
I think part of the problem is nobody really knows very much so they don't quite know what to say to us. Been reading that most of the northern hemisphere cars seem to be several weeks earlier than promised of late which might mean ours are produced a bit earlier than we have been told as well... I have stopped asking now and are just waiting til they tell me its made and on its way :cheers:
Cheers Chris |
Sorry - PFA = http://porscheforum.com.au/
I'm also through Brighton. At this stage I just know I have an Oct build but they don't know an exact delivery yet given the Xmas shipping period issues. That said I haven't spoken to Richard for a month or so - might be time to go in for a coffee and an update. |
I couldn't get anyone at Brighton to show any interest in selling me a car. 3 times I went there and nobody was interested. Even when I pulled up in my 993 C2S in front of 3 sales people. They just kept talking amongst themselves so after 20 minutes I left. Was close to writing to the dealer principle but never bothered in the end.....
So we should all get together and have a coffee and chat at some stage. Hoping to get a sneak peek of one over the weekend so if it comes to pass perhaps we could meet at PCM... Cheers Chris |
Hi,
Over here in Perth with a confirmed order for the 2nd delivery to PCP. Sapphire Blue with LWB :) |
When was yours due to arrive Rod?
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Happy Days.....
Just got back from night at PCP and looks like I got me a build week :) WA got 1x of the first allocations so there is one arriving for delivery this week. Then a gap to build week 44 for me.....with LWB's!!! Going to be a happy xmas. https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/burnout.gif |
Sensational news Rod. Thats terrific. Hope I get some more clarity soon too. So you will get to see one this week, thats awesome. I am hoping we get the same here. if not this week then next i think...
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Hello All!
Not a Lurker anymore. Running in my new Carmine Red GT4. Living the dream... |
Hi Gazz, a very big congratulations. I believe yours may have been Number 1 delivery so a bit of history that no one can take away. Carmine would look great, well done :)
Chris |
Hi Gazz,
Big congrats, looks like its going to be a nice fine weekend this weekend too ;) GEEETEE4 :) |
Yes its number 1 in Australia. How cool is that. :thumbsup:
I ordered the car and put down a deposit about a year ago. The wait was ok because the 987.2 and work kept me busy! |
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 12601218)
Yes its number 1 in Australia. How cool is that. :thumbsup:
I ordered the car and put down a deposit about a year ago. The wait was ok because the 987.2 and work kept me busy! |
Sunny Perth.
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Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 12601269)
Sunny Perth.
Any photos of your car? |
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I have an order in with Porsche Centre Melbourne and my order locked today for October build and delivery December or January approx. Mine was the 10th order they took but I think they have been accepting orders since then "subject to availability".
My spec: White with Platinum Wheels Full Bucket Seats Sport Chrono with Track Precision App 64 Litre tank Anthracite Aluminium Dash Trim Auto Dimming Mirrors Bi-Xenon with PDL The PCA Press GT4 (Sapphire Blue with Black Wheels) is there now and will be at the PCV 40th Anniversary function this Sunday. Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa. |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12601523)
Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa.
And congrats to rodders, it's about time we got an Australian car |
Spoke to Jim a few weeks ago at the Perth Targa West.
We did the same sprint that day. I got a somewhat better time in my 2010 Manual Cayman S, him in 2013 PDK Cayman S. |
I have a question for all you Australian gents.
Are all you guys buying Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lambos Gazillionairs? When a 911 Turbo cab costs a half million dollars, it seems like owning a Porsche or other high end sports car would be out of the question for most regular Australian folks. Dare I ask the price of a lowly Honda Civic?? P.S. that Carmine Red GT4 looks amazing. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...507577b58c.jpg |
Hi Maverick 1.
Australia has a Luxury Car Tax that kicks in for cars over $61,884.00. For fuel-efficient "green" cars the LCT Threshold is $75,375.00. Under that figure cars are competitively priced. However over that figure we pay 33% LCT. There is also 10% GST and 5% import duty so the prices get scary very quickly. If you think we are expensive, check out Singapore. It is crazy there. A VW Golf in Singapore costs as much as a Boxster S does here. |
Is anyone interested in a Group Buy of Track Wheels for Australian owners of GT4? I am thinking of something like Rays TE37. Other suggestions welcome but we would need to agree on one specific wheel that can be obtained in the correct size and offset.
If there is interest from Australian owners I will start a separate thread. |
I'll be interested in track wheels. I'm most likely going to look at 19's to run slicks however.
Sounds like you'll be getting yours the same time as me and Chris (cp993). |
Hi Snowman
Thanks for responding. Lets see how many interested parties we have and go from there. I am putting out some feelers for suppliers that can deliver a suitable wheel now. Maybe something exciting will pop up. It needs to be strong, light and reasonably priced so if it gets damaged it can be replaced without costing a bomb. |
Looking to solve my wheel issue as well.
Trouble is all tyres for 19 or 20" wheels are going to be slower than the 18" super soft R spec I was running on the 987.2. Even Trofeo R or slicks will be slower. |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12601523)
I have an order in with Porsche Centre Melbourne and my order locked today for October build and delivery December or January approx. Mine was the 10th order they took but I think they have been accepting orders since then "subject to availability".
My spec: White with Platinum Wheels Full Bucket Seats Sport Chrono with Track Precision App 64 Litre tank Anthracite Aluminium Dash Trim Auto Dimming Mirrors Bi-Xenon with PDL The PCA Press GT4 (Sapphire Blue with Black Wheels) is there now and will be at the PCV 40th Anniversary function this Sunday. Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa. I think quite a few of us will have cars arriving at the same time by the sounds of it... |
Thanks Gazz
What are these Super Soft R Spec tyres? Brand etc? Maybe BBS Motorsport wheels would be suitable because they can be built to order. Do you have standard red brakes or ceramic yellow brakes? |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12603372)
Funny I was to,d I was number 10 at PCM too :)
I think quite a few of us will have cars arriving at the same time by the sounds of it... I suspect that Porsche might build the Australian spec cars in batches to make production easier. They are all made at the Osnabruck factory (old Karmann factory now owned by VW). This is where all Caymans are produced and where half the Boxster production is done. The other half of Boxsters are made at Stuttgart. |
Yes I think you might be right, we all might be number 10 lol
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That is called, "playing your cards close to your chest".
Are you going to the 40th Anniversary function at Rochford tomorrow? |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12603374)
Thanks Gazz
What are these Super Soft R Spec tyres? Brand etc? Maybe BBS Motorsport wheels would be suitable because they can be built to order. Do you have standard red brakes or ceramic yellow brakes? I started a thread about this but nobody replied :( ; I tried some Yokohama 18" Advan rims with large barrel intended for 991s'. These do fit over the calipers, but hit the rear suspension toe arms. These 991 rims are a special shape. I tried some other regular Yokohama 18" rims with spacers (19 or 21mm)and they clear the toe arms, yay. But don't fit over the calipers properly. So looking to try the 991 rims with spacers next at the shop. Or maybe different offset rims but with the big barrel this may be a big ask. Not sure if the spacers will cause the tyres to have issues with the guards yet. The tyres are Yoko A050. With these your 987 can easy out drive a GT3 if it does not have them. I was the first to run these (although pretty pricey) in the club, now most others do as well. They are super quick but as they are "time attack" tyres they are not suitable for continiuous lap running as they get hot after one lap. |
My concern with running 18's with A050's on this car will be roll centers.
I used to have an R35 GT-R which came with 20's standard and it was actually quicker with 19" Dunlop Sports MAXX Race rubber than it was with 18" A050's as the roll centers were just to far out. Toyo do make an R comp (R888) is 19 and 20's but even though the feel better from the SOP they weren't as quick as the Dunlops either. The Dunlops are one of the OEM options for the Cayman along with the Michelins - what did you get on your one GAZZ? It's one of the reasons I was thinking of going slicks. Then you can run 19's but get a side wall to make the rolling diameters - and hence the roll centers as per factory design. |
I had no issues on the 987.2, it worked perfect but yes these are somewhat smaller than the 20" on the GT4 and only slightly smaller than 987.2 OEMs.
Dunlop Sports MAXX Race??? Guess what? My GT4 car came with these (20")!!!! Has a tread wear of 80. Maybe you all will get them too. For a road tyre they are really good actually, but are nothing compared to the grip of a proper R spec and no where near the A050s'. |
As I said already - they don't have the overall grip of an A050 but you might find they are over a lap faster due to roll centers.
Also be aware when you put 18's with R Comps onto a car designed to run 20's it will look completely stupid like this.... (This was my R35 when we tested it with A050's) https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...393a8f7866.jpg |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12603409)
That is called, "playing your cards close to your chest".
Are you going to the 40th Anniversary function at Rochford tomorrow? |
Snowy, love the Nissan. What a weapon!
Arent you heading off on holiday this weekend? |
Just about to head off now
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When you get back, yell out and we will catch up for a coffee...
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12558183)
I couldn't get anyone at Brighton to show any interest in selling me a car. 3 times I went there and nobody was interested. Even when I pulled up in my 993 C2S in front of 3 sales people. They just kept talking amongst themselves so after 20 minutes I left. Was close to writing to the dealer principle but never bothered in the end.....
Cheers Chris a reflection of some of the current generation's work ethos/culture, seen much more frequently than previously. that is very sad, that a customer comes in with intent to spend over $200k, and they just let him walk away. i don't let anybody walk out of my workplace unspoken to. even for $5 sale. you just never really know who each customer really is and how much they are willing to part with. maybe these guys sell too many cayennes that pay their wages. |
Hi guys
Anyone else planning on doing the Targa Tas 2016 Tour? Should be awesome being 25th anniversary. Just booked our flight.... Now all I need is a GT4 :) |
Originally Posted by roders
(Post 12604449)
Hi guys
Anyone else planning on doing the Targa Tas 2016 Tour? Should be awesome being 25th anniversary. Just booked our flight.... Now all I need is a GT4 :) The Clubsport factory half cage does not comply with CAMS regulations as it needs an additional cross brace and the front cage to comply. That is if you want to run in the unrestricted speed category. Thinking....thinking!!! |
the straights won't be too long. 130km/h is plenty on the roads.
and if you are a newbie, it's a great way to learn the roads/etiquette. i've only done track, but not any targa, as think it is very risky. touring would be a great place to start on unfamiliar roads. all your cornering will be done at 50 - 100 anyways. |
Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
(Post 12605395)
the straights won't be too long. 130km/h is plenty on the roads.
and if you are a newbie, it's a great way to learn the roads/etiquette. i've only done track, but not any targa, as think it is very risky. touring would be a great place to start on unfamiliar roads. all your cornering will be done at 50 - 100 anyways. Thanks for your thoughts. I have done Targa Tasmania a number of times before in Nissan GT-R. Finished in top 10 a few times and 2nd Outright once so I probably have a different perspective on things. I am sure that lots of competitors will be happy with the 130kph limit. Just struggling with the concept myself. |
ah ok - all good then.
sorry to preach to the converted! :to_order: |
Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
(Post 12606281)
ah ok - all good then.
sorry to preach to the converted! :to_order: |
For those that are interested I have found that Rays have the TE37 Ultra available in 11" x 20" ET 50 for the rear which is the exact factory fit. However the fronts are only available in 9" x 20" ET 45. This puts the wheel outside 22mm further out. I measured a GT4 today and I think this puts it a few mms outside the wheel arch. So it is a no go in current form. Rays would be smart to offer an 8.5" x 20" with the correct offset and they would get a lot of business. I am looking at whether the wheel can be finessed a little to make it fit.
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There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?
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Originally Posted by Bardman
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There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?
Seems like we need to watch out for the headlights though because products like Xpel will delaminate the lenses when removed. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 12606331)
There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?
Last car had it and saved a lot of damage. The side scoops will get a lot of damage from sand and small gravel chips. Much less pulverizing on your car at the track if nobody overtakes you. -I try to never let that happen! |
In regards to wheels with the exchange rate where it is japan is an excellant option but I would strongly recommend tws over rays, they are more of a race team supplier as opposed to a consumer supplier, their wheels are lighter and they will do a short run with custom offsets. And, frankly, te37s are massively overrated.
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Originally Posted by IMOA
(Post 12606645)
In regards to wheels with the exchange rate where it is japan is an excellant option but I would strongly recommend tws over rays, they are more of a race team supplier as opposed to a consumer supplier, their wheels are lighter and they will do a short run with custom offsets. And, frankly, te37s are massively overrated.
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Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 12606628)
Getting mine done tomorrow.
Last car had it and saved a lot of damage. The side scoops will get a lot of damage from sand and small gravel chips. Much less pulverizing on your car at the track if nobody overtakes you. -I try to never let that happen! |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 12601221)
Dammit! Mine arrived last week so I could have been number 1! I have been on holidays so am only picking it up on Monday. I have the whole week off though so will make up for lost time. Where are you based?
Best wishes Chris |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12606193)
Hi Jimmy
Thanks for your thoughts. I have done Targa Tasmania a number of times before in Nissan GT-R. Finished in top 10 a few times and 2nd Outright once so I probably have a different perspective on things. I am sure that lots of competitors will be happy with the 130kph limit. Just struggling with the concept myself. https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...26247357_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...eec45dcb487203 |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 12607599)
I did Targa a few times myself in GT-Rs - am thinking we should know each other!? (I did it 2009-2011)
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Originally Posted by V-GT400
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I am investigating it. PCM have recommended an installer that uses the Premiumshield Elite product. The installer says it is better than the USA favourites of Suntek and Xpel. I have no idea so it would be good to hear from our USA friends who have actual experience with these products.
Seems like we need to watch out for the headlights though because products like Xpel will delaminate the lenses when removed. I was also looking at getting the remainder of the car treated with Opticoat Plus as well. C |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12607439)
Thanks for the suggestion. I will investigate this brand. I looked at their website quickly and the Magnesium range looks amazing but very expensive. Not surprising if they are genuine magnesium and super light.
Their base motorsport rim is the t66f, here's a link to the page showing sizes/offsets/weights of their standard wheels to give you a better idea. (Not sure if you can read Japanese and their website is a bit confusing) http://www.tws-forged.com/tws_t66-f.html |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12607454)
Well Monday is here so good luck with picking up your car and enjoy. Looking forward to seeing it around.
Best wishes Chris Picked the car up today and had a lot of fun with it. Its pretty much everything I hoped it would be. :) Might write some more soon once I have a few more kms in it. Cheers, Brad |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12607441)
What material are you having applied Gazz?
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Originally Posted by Bardman
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Second this - what did you get done? (material, what did you cover etc)
Its in the shop now. Im getting the entire car covered. Cant remember what brand it is. Has a gloss finish. Not 3M or Ventura. Will report back later...with a much lighter Wallet. |
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 12611304)
Its in the shop now.
Im getting the entire car covered. Cant remember what brand it is. Has a gloss finish. Not 3M or Ventura. Will report back later...with a much lighter Wallet. |
Hi Gazz
Whom in Perth is doing yours? |
Yes the wing is being done.
Let me get the car back first before I say who it is or not. Its a 5 day wrap!!!!! P.S. A club mate got 18" onto his 981 Cayman S with PASM. Used 6mm spacers. I will do test fit on the weekend if I get time. Anyway lets go to the specific thread re this; https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8942...-on-gt4-2.html |
Hey guys, what do you think of the resale on this car here? I am unsure about how the GT4 will fare going up the blue stone entrance to my street. My later GT3s needed front lift to get up here, and I had a 996.2 GT3 that couldn't get up here at all. Even my neighbour's GranTurismo scraps the front unless he crawls at an angle and that isn't such a low car. I'm in two minds whether I should stick to my GT4 order or switch to a Spyder. I could take the risk and pick up the GT4 and see how I go if resale here is like the US where I won't have an issue selling it for what I paid for!
Oh and hi Roders, good to see you here too. |
GT4 looks about 5mm higher than the GT3. Im even thinking to raise the GT4 10mm.
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Hi Way.....
I'm sure you wont find any issues reselling a GT4 here either. Lots of demand with little supply ;) |
Finally I go to collect my Girl with her new big bra on in 17mins time .
5 days without was hard, but at least I had a track day on Wed to fang the Cayman S about. |
Good on you Gazz enjoy while all us waiters wait :) :)
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Ok, so got the GT4 back.
Carmine RED with gloss film looks freeking AWESOME! :thumbsup: For those that asked, its Suntek film. Much less noticeable than Venture Shield. |
Interesting read here about Cayman black:
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...ck-again-54384 Main reason for posting though, is that it mentions 140 GT4s have been ordered into Australia and that we have only 70 allocations. Most up to date numbers I have seen. |
This article includes the source of the 140 orders, but also commentary from Porsche that they "hope" to fulfil all 140 orders.
http://www.motormag.com.au/news/1510...ort-announced/ |
Lol - now I'm just spamming. Australian reviews are being posted up. Looks like Porsche took the Australian press down to Philip Island today.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/387504/p...ew-track-test/ I called him out on the track only and manual only comments! :) |
Mine should be hitting the docks in the next couple of days but unfortunately I'm off to Europe on saturday so won't be able to pick it up until early november. I think a week in and around the snowies/vic alps in mid november before the schools break for christmas hols might be on the cards though :)
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Those delivery numbers sound more believable to what I was originally told Brad which was 30 ish. Think 70 odd is a bit more realistic. Wonder if it will get to 140 though.
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Originally Posted by Bardman
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Interesting to see some of the Aussie reviews.
Has anyone else noticed that there was supposed to be only 1x Sapphire Blue press car, but some of the pictures show standard seats but some of the video's are showing LWB's????? Love you colour Bardman :) Just got confirmation of my VIN and car has been built :) happy days. |
Car looks awesome Brad. Did you end up getting film on the front?
Rod, that's fantastic news re your vin. Hope I have similar news soon given our cars were due to be built same week :) |
Interesting to also read the Australian Press car was shipped with PS2's.
The customer cars which were delivered at the same time came with the Dunlops.... |
Originally Posted by roders
(Post 12661754)
Interesting to see some of the Aussie reviews.
Has anyone else noticed that there was supposed to be only 1x Sapphire Blue press car, but some of the pictures show standard seats but some of the video's are showing LWB's????? Love you colour Bardman :) Just got confirmation of my VIN and car has been built :) happy days. |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12661759)
Car looks awesome Brad. Did you end up getting film on the front?
Rod, that's fantastic news re your vin. Hope I have similar news soon given our cars were due to be built same week :) Hope you get your VIN soon!
Originally Posted by roders
(Post 12661801)
Interesting to also read the Australian Press car was shipped with PS2's.
The customer cars which were delivered at the same time came with the Dunlops.... |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 12653970)
Lol - now I'm just spamming. Australian reviews are being posted up. Looks like Porsche took the Australian press down to Philip Island today. http://www.caradvice.com.au/387504/p...ew-track-test/ I called him out on the track only and manual only comments! :)
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 12661840)
Mine came with the PS2's. Given I will pretty much only street my car, I might go for PSSs when these wear out.
Congrats on the car....love the colour. Let me know what you do about the film, I was thinking about it. But then advised unless you do the whole car, if you later polish the unfilmed sections there may be colour differences. I'm thinking might stick with Modesta Paint Protection...... |
Originally Posted by Macca
(Post 12661934)
Didn't One of the GT4 there have an engine expiry? That's what someone from NZ in the media who went there reported over here??
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One of the articles I read said there was a problem with the press car but they didnt say what it was. So some of the journalists swapped into JR's targa prepped car to do their laps apparently.....
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Mine arrived yesterday and was fitted with the PS2's which made me happy. Being over the other side of the world, not so much.
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IMOA....where are you?
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Originally Posted by IMOA
(Post 12667153)
Mine arrived yesterday and was fitted with the PS2's which made me happy. Being over the other side of the world, not so much.
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 12663524)
One of the articles I read said there was a problem with the press car but they didnt say what it was. So some of the journalists swapped into JR's targa prepped car to do their laps apparently.....
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Originally Posted by roders
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IMOA....where are you?
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Originally Posted by IMOA
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Belgium for the next couple of weeks. Last stop of about 13 months of near constant travel with (hopefully) the rest of the year in Australia.
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Is anyone here going to the private showing of the GT4 and GT3 RS at Porsche Centre Sydney South this evening?
Cannot wait! |
Originally Posted by Reza
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Is anyone here going to the private showing of the GT4 and GT3 RS at Porsche Centre Sydney South this evening?
Cannot wait! |
Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 12669506)
yes going there, have mine on order with them, should be good!
Whats the spec of your car? |
Originally Posted by Reza
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Great stuff.
Whats the spec of your car? LWB's Clubsport Harness for the passenger Dynamic Lights Dimming Mirrors Interior LED package yours? |
Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 12669887)
White
LWB's Clubsport Harness for the passenger Dynamic Lights Dimming Mirrors Interior LED package yours? No GT4 on order for me unfortunately. When are you expecting delivery? Regards |
Originally Posted by Reza
(Post 12670013)
Great spec!!
No GT4 on order for me unfortunately. When are you expecting delivery? Regards |
Originally Posted by Reza
(Post 12669434)
If your from Sydney, i'm guessing your's is the Sapphire Blue at Porsche Centre Willoughby?
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plenty of rs there last night....
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Well mine is on a boat.
Due in port early Jan. Count down has officially begun and the next month or so will be spent watching the shipping tracker. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 12790499)
Well mine is on a boat.
Due in port early Jan. Count down has officially begun and the next month or so will be spent watching the shipping tracker. |
Hi Snowman
Probably on the same boat with mine which was finished on October 26 and shipping now. Due for delivery in January from PCM. |
It left yesterday and is due into Melbourne Jan 5th.
Has 5 stops along the way. |
Originally Posted by V-GT400
(Post 12790551)
Hi Snowman
Probably on the same boat with mine which was finished on October 26 and shipping now. Due for delivery in January from PCM. But I'm on BOHEME (mine was built Nov 11th - was delayed slightly due to the LWB's but I got them in the end) and is a few days behind consequently. |
What is the ship called? Where are you following it?
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Ah, you answered my question already. Where do you track them?
Mine has LWB as well but no scaffolding in the back. |
Follow here - put your VIN into the box marked cargo id. (Can get your VIN from PCM)
https://www.2wglobal.com/webapps?fra...uickSearchPage |
OK, thanks. Will follow it.
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Yep sounds like a good start to 2016 for a few of us in Oz. Mine along with Roders is on the Torrens which departed bremerhaven early yesterday morning our time, due into Mel Jan 2. doing a bit of a mini world tour along the way with stops in belgium, UK, Spain and South Africa beforehand. V-GT400 once you have the vessel name you can track the vessel at the link below.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home?level0=100 Just put the vessel name in search box in the top right corner and it should give you some info. Cheers Chris |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 12790557)
It left yesterday and is due into Melbourne Jan 5th.
Has 5 stops along the way. |
Sure is. around 38 to 40 days is the normal transit time port to port. Trouble is have just about run out of anticipation given most of us have been waiting since Feb, March. At least we life in a place were we can use them all year round :)
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Just got my VIN number from PCM and definitely on the Torrens arriving in Melbourne January 2nd.
Anyone in Melbourne looking at paint protection films? |
Thats good news V-GT400. Yes i am definitely getting protective film. I will try to get it done virtually the day after I pick it up if I can manage it.
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What film and who will you get to apply it?
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Everyone speaks pretty highly of Invisible Car bra so I will get a quote from them and another place in Ringwood or Nunawading. Not sure of the name but will let you know. I will PM you my email address and we can compare notes. I have to sort out who I will use for insurance. Previous car was with Porsche insurance so will get a quote from them
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Thanks, email sent.
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The race is one....there are two boats on the way from Germany now. About 3 days apart from each other :)
1st one departed 24th Nov, due to Perth 28th December. Depending on the schedules/stops usually takes 28-45 days. |
Looks like lots of LWB's got released for Australia :)
Mine was a 1st Oct build, but my car decided to enjoy Oktoberfest before getting on a boat hahahah. Be interesting to compare notes with other on insurance companies for a GT4. |
Chris - since there are 3 of us due for cars all together see if any of the clear bra people want to do a discount on 3 cars maybe?
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Will be in touch :)
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except I'm in Perth :(
I'm thinking of Modesta BC05 :) |
Bumping this thread.
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Thanks for bumping the thread Bardman!! Mine should delivered in July/August by Porsche Centre Brighton, after some brilliant help from Richard C. I see Snowman on the forum! I seem to be always following him (I bought my first R35 GT-R from FTG Nissan in 2009, and got mine about a month after he got his lol).
I ordered mine in early October, apparently I'm PCB's last GT4 allocation :) |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13214915)
Thanks for bumping the thread Bardman!! Mine should delivered in July/August by Porsche Centre Brighton, after some brilliant help from Richard C. I see Snowman on the forum! I seem to be always following him (I bought my first R35 GT-R from FTG Nissan in 2009, and got mine about a month after he got his lol).
I ordered mine in early October, apparently I'm PCB's last GT4 allocation :) Also if you haven't already - as good as this forum is for information - if you are interested in a social side jump on PFA - http://porscheforum.com.au/ I've had a few good meet ups for coffee etc already. FWIW - this is my little beasty. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a02ddec06d.jpg |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13216879)
There is another guy Mark (not on the forums) who got one of the first R35's from FTG, and he also now got the first Aussie delivered GT4 last year. So it seems we all share common tastes. Richard at PCB is a great guy - he is who I dealt with for both the GT4 and the Macan.
Also if you haven't already - as good as this forum is for information - if you are interested in a social side jump on PFA - http://porscheforum.com.au/ I've had a few good meet ups for coffee etc already. FWIW - this is my little beasty. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a02ddec06d.jpg |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13216879)
There is another guy Mark (not on the forums) who got one of the first R35's from FTG, and he also now got the first Aussie delivered GT4 last year.
In fact the first delivered Aust GT4 was in Western Australia (Carmine Red). The supply ship visited WA before Melb or Syd. What was printed in the Christphorous Magazine about the first Aust delivery was also wrong. The lucky winner for the first delivered GT4 was.... Me! :) Just setting the record straight. ha ha. |
Here she be on display with some friends...https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...55677906c3.jpg
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Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 13217155)
I have to correct you on that one.
In fact the first delivered Aust GT4 was in Western Australia (Carmine Red). The supply ship visited WA before Melb or Syd. What was printed in the Christphorous Magazine about the first Aust delivery was also wrong. The lucky winner for the first delivered GT4 was.... Me! :) Just setting the record straight. ha ha. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13217196)
Haha - ok GAZZ - I should change it to you, Jim Richards, Mark and Bardman all got cars in the first shipment. :D
And I reckon I'll probably be one of the last in Australia to get a GT4! :D |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13217196)
Haha - ok GAZZ - I should change it to you, Jim Richards, Mark and Bardman all got cars in the first shipment. :D
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You guys crack me up :) :)
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I had to get new numberplates moving down to Tasmania. My 18 months old daughter always says brm brm when she sees my car, so I went for the following:
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Thats excellent Brad. A story you will be able to tell her when she is older and you bring out that photo :)
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Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13217259)
And I reckon I'll probably be one of the last in Australia to get a GT4! :D
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So how many Km's have you guys racked up. I have just hit 3000km since delivery day on Jan 23...
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1'600 odd km's for me - delivery was mid Feb.
Oil and filters at 1'000 km. 1 track day down at Wakefield with hopefully many more to come! |
Originally Posted by Tilpa
(Post 13218059)
1'600 odd km's for me - delivery was mid Feb.
Oil and filters at 1'000 km. 1 track day down at Wakefield with hopefully many more to come! |
11500km and only spent 7 weeks in Australia since october when i picked it up.
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Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe
(Post 13218087)
How did you find the gearing at wakefield?
I noticed that the rear of the car was hopping / skipping in some of the higher speed corners. I put it down to either high tire pressure (didn't get a chance to adjust it down) or the traction control which I didn't switch off as it was the first time I tracked the car. |
Originally Posted by Tilpa
(Post 13218115)
It seemed suited to the track - lots of second and third gear corners. I was down there for a test day in a formula ford and only got the GT4 on for the last session at the end of the day when everyone else cleared out. Car performed great but felt like a Cadillac after 80+ laps in the formula ford!
I noticed that the rear of the car was hopping / skipping in some of the higher speed corners. I put it down to either high tire pressure (didn't get a chance to adjust it down) or the traction control which I didn't switch off as it was the first time I tracked the car. |
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 13218030)
Last is collectable too, so good on ya, and its newer too, ha ha.
Thanks mate, but the anticipation is killing me :D |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13218031)
So how many Km's have you guys racked up. I have just hit 3000km since delivery day on Jan 23...
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I got about 5000kms.
Actually the car is in storage for a week now. This is because Im not tracking it until I can "fix" it and get 18" stickies on. With the OEM tyres, for me, the car is just too slow and not competitive (like to run against Open or GT class). My lightly modded Cayman S is a lot faster in the corners and its off to the country today for the next sprint event at the track on Sat. |
GAZZ - fwiw - Mark tested a set of the Pirelli Trofeo R's a couple of weeks ago at Phillip Island.
We estimate them to be 2s / lap faster than either the Dunlop or Michelin's at that track. It's what I have ordered now. Prices for them were nearly half what we were quoted for the OEM's too. Still not quite as good as a full R Comp - but it brings the speed of the cars up to a pretty high level. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13220736)
GAZZ - fwiw - Mark tested a set of the Pirelli Trofeo R's a couple of weeks ago at Phillip Island.
We estimate them to be 2s / lap faster than either the Dunlop or Michelin's at that track. It's what I have ordered now. Prices for them were nearly half what we were quoted for the OEM's too. Still not quite as good as a full R Comp - but it brings the speed of the cars up to a pretty high level. Anyway the Cayman S is running A050 SOFT. So compared to that, all the above is way slower. Sure, I burn the A050s... its not cheap to beat the GT3s and stripped race cars with the lowly Cayman S, ha ha. |
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 13220667)
I got about 5000kms.
Actually the car is in storage for a week now. This is because Im not tracking it until I can "fix" it and get 18" stickies on. With the OEM tyres, for me, the car is just too slow and not competitive (like to run against Open or GT class). My lightly modded Cayman S is a lot faster in the corners and its off to the country today for the next sprint event at the track on Sat. |
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 13220798)
Had considered that, but some are saying Trofeo Rs' are slow than Dunlops.
GAZZ - for as good a reference as I can give - the time ran at Phillip Island on the Trofeo R was pretty much the same as my old R34's time there. I took that over to W.A. once and we ran a 63 at Barbagallo long. So I reckon the GT4 on Trofeo's should be pretty close to that. Not sure what times your Cayman S does there? |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13220914)
Nope - Trofeo's are WAAYY faster. We were seeing +10km/hr faster in some corners.
GAZZ - for as good a reference as I can give - the time ran at Phillip Island on the Trofeo R was pretty much the same as my old R34's time there. I took that over to W.A. once and we ran a 63 at Barbagallo long. So I reckon the GT4 on Trofeo's should be pretty close to that. Not sure what times your Cayman S does there? The S did a 66.4 long, which is still the Porsche class A record from 2013. One other GT4s' ran a 70 long, but were not driven to 100%. |
Was just getting warmed up ;)
Hope to get the GT4 back on the road soon to break under the 70's :) |
One of my good mates who I used to do the Dutton Rallies with +10 years ago has just started doing Porsche W.A. days in his 964 RSR hotrod (Blaise Paris). He's the reason the R34 came west as we used to run in his EVO over there and he in my R34 in Vic but he was between cars one year.
Was speaking to Blaise before (we're going to Rennsport next week together) and he reminded me it was bucketing down at Barbs with my car - we ran the 63 in his EVO the year later. But he says my thing should have been about that time as well. We did run it at Collie at Duttons - did a 49.1 back then. I think you guys were there on the weekend? I think Blaise said he ran a 50.1 on the weekend in his 964 and a 65 at Barbs the other day so that sounds about right. This is Blaise's current little bus. https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.ne...f5e14d99fc6d6c |
^^^ enjoyed his build thread over on PF. Snowman are you IMOA or is that another bloke? Can't keep up with the sapphire GT4s haha (lovely colour btw).
Interesting to hear that the cup 2s aren't up to scratch on these things. I run A050 soft front medium rear on my GT3 and would never go backwards now as they're bliss, but I thought the Cup 2 was basically an R-comp in its own right. Hoping these GT4s drop a bit in the years to come so maybe I can hop into one. Won't hold my breath though!! |
Originally Posted by spiller
(Post 13232497)
Snowman are you IMOA or is that another bloke? Can't keep up with the sapphire GT4s haha (lovely colour btw).
I'm mostly in the Motorsport section on PF though. But Blaise has always built fantastic cars. |
And I'm IMOA here as well :)
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That clears that up then :)
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Agate grey available
Hi guys,
Was out at Rennsport on Sunday and my dealer mentioned he had an Agate grey GT4 with sofas that a customer had passed on. Basic spec and ready to go. If there is any interest PM me and I will pass on his contact details. cheers, Noel |
Originally Posted by Tilpa
(Post 13249900)
Hi guys,
Was out at Rennsport on Sunday and my dealer mentioned he had an Agate grey GT4 with sofas that a customer had passed on. Basic spec and ready to go. If there is any interest PM me and I will pass on his contact details. cheers, Noel |
Was also at Rennsport and my dealer said he has a Guards Red with Clubsport (carbon seats, half cage) and a few other small things - due in this week a customer canceled for $227K drive away.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13251635)
Any idea on price?
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13252036)
Was also at Rennsport and my dealer said he has a Guards Red with Clubsport (carbon seats, half cage) and a few other small things - due in this week a customer canceled for $227K drive away.
Originally Posted by Tilpa
(Post 13252076)
I didn't ask him but it's a low spec car & brand new so it should be RRP + options & standard dealer delivery.
I am getting a price to trade in my yet undelivered GTS on a GT4 at the moment. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13253255)
Which dealers?
I am getting a price to trade in my yet undelivered GTS on a GT4 at the moment. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13253273)
Why would you need a trade price on an undelivered GTS? Would have thought best for everyone if you just didn't take delivery.
Since I posted above they have given me a trade in price and it is too far below my contract price and with no discount on a new car I can't afford it. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13253274)
It is on the water to me now and is a high spec custom order.
Since I posted above they have given me a trade in price and it is too far below my contract price and with no discount on a new car I can't afford it. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13253278)
Given you have not taken delivery they can still sell as new. They might make you eat some of your deposit but setting it up as a trade means you have pay stamp duty and luxury car tax - there is no way you can get close to whole this way.
Mine is the same look as this except it has Carbon folding buckets, PCCB, no rear wiper and no GTS exterior pack (painted black bits). https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...07201167_n.jpg |
Had confirmation today that my GT4 build was completed on 24 May 16 :) Should be getting it in early August! Not long now...
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Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13318147)
Had confirmation today that my GT4 build was completed on 24 May 16 :) Should be getting it in early August! Not long now...
Mine is through Porsche Melbourne and build date 12th of May, waiting for shipping. Expecting a delivery date confirmation any day now. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13319874)
Congrats on the build completion. Which Porsche centre did you go through.
Mine is through Porsche Melbourne and build date 12th of May, waiting for shipping. Expecting a delivery date confirmation any day now. Thanks mate, Congrats on your build completion too! I went through Porsche Brighton. I expect my car will be shipped in the next couple of weeks, and then the next part of the waiting game :) |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13320140)
Thanks mate, Congrats on your build completion too!
I went through Porsche Brighton. I expect my car will be shipped in the next couple of weeks, and then the next part of the waiting game :) |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13320173)
Do you guys know how to track your shipping online off your commission number? I am doing that on my GTS at present which lands in Melbourne on Monday.
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Jim, once they give you the VIN number you will be able to track it via the shipping lines track and trace system.
C |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13320255)
Jim, once they give you the VIN number you will be able to track it via the shipping lines track and trace system.
C |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320268)
Very good, I'll call and get my vin number. Thank you.
If you don't have it ask your dealer. Once you have this you can track your shipment before you even get your VIN. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320207)
No I did not know that, how would I get the commission number, is it in the contracts? I'm guessing tracking will be active once its on the ship, is that correct?
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Great, thanks guys. I'll have a look when I get home, once I have the commission No. how do I track it, which online site is it?
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320288)
Great, thanks guys. I'll have a look when I get home, once I have the commission No. how do I track it, which online site is it?
To track it, go to: https://att.2wglobal.com/gstattweb/o...uickSearchPage Type in your commission number in to the "Customer Reference Number", or if you do happen to already have your VIN, type that in to the "Cargo ID" and then search. It will come up with all your shipping details. If you want to nose around, copy your "Bill of Lading" as shown, go back and do a new search just on that number. It will show how many Porsche's are in that shipment to the port of discharge your car is going to. Now that you know the boat, go to: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ and sign up to become a member and buy the 1 month service for satellite tracking which is about $15.00 and allocate that service to the vessel your car is booked on. But only do this once loaded or you might run out of time before it gets here. You can track it without the satellite payment, but that is a delayed service and only when the vessel gets close to the shore. |
That's great info, much appreciated. I'll be watching it like a hawk...lol.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320393)
That's great info, much appreciated. I'll be watching it like a hawk...lol.
The boat departs Germany and goes to Belgium, UK, Spain, 3 stops in South Africa, Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Kembla and lastly Brisbane. It takes 5 weeks to get to Melbourne. Post back how you go. |
Ok, seems like its not booked on the boat. I'll keep trying, regarding vin No.s, are all the zeros actually zeros or is there letters of "O" in there aswell? This is part of my vin No. WP0ZZZ****K19****, is it WP and the letter O or the number zero 0?
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320489)
Ok, seems like its not booked on the boat. I'll keep trying, regarding vin No.s, are all the zeros actually zeros or is there letters of "O" in there aswell? This is part of my vin No. XX, is it WP and the letter O or the number zero 0?
Keep on trying it. Mine came out of production in the week ending 15/4, but was booked on 11/4. It then arrived at the boat on the 18/4, the same day it sailed. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13320512)
They are all the numeral zero.
Keep on trying it. Mine came out of production in the week ending 15/4, but was booked on 11/4. It then arrived at the boat on the 18/4, the same day it sailed. as I've had 2nd thoughts on posting them on here. TIA |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320541)
Fantastic, thanks. Do you mind deleting my vin No. on your post
as I've had 2nd thoughts on posting them on here. TIA |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13320553)
James part of the reason it is not coming up is that your vin should be 17 digits long, the number you've quoted is 15.
I was late to the party as I scored someone else's configurable order in late March, so I'm guessing they're getting out all the older orders out 1st. I've been told it could be waiting for up to 3 or 4 weeks to get on the boat. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13320578)
Yes I left out the last 2 on here but did enter it, thanks.
I was late to the party as I scored someone else's configurable order in late March, so I'm guessing they're getting out all the older orders out 1st. I've been told it could be waiting for up to 3 or 4 weeks to get on the boat. |
Thanks for this, just checked mine as it was built 3rd of May.
Loaded onto boat on 16/05 and ETA @ Port Kembla is 27th June. So looking like an end of July delivery. :corn: |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13320936)
Thanks for this, just checked mine as it was built 3rd of May.
Loaded onto boat on 16/05 and ETA @ Port Kembla is 27th June. So looking like an end of July delivery. :corn: |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13321077)
Yes stock up on lots of popcorn...so thats a 6 week turnaround, I thought it was more like 4 weeks, or am I wrong?
My car is sailIng past Albany now. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13321082)
No it is six weeks of watching www.marinetraffic.com willing the boat to go faster.
My car is sailIng past Albany now. So yours is nearly here, you must be pretty excited to say the least. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13321091)
Ok, so I have 6 weeks plus waiting time to board the ship, so maybe 8 weeks for me, pass the popcorn please.........
So yours is nearly here, you must be pretty excited to say the least. Unfortunately it isn't a GT4 though, see my posts earlier in this thread. Still looking forward to it though. Also the only port web cam I could find on the whole route is at Fremantle, so you can see the boat in realtime if you are keen. |
Looks like everyone who wanted a GT4 in Australia was able to get one :).
Eventually...... |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13321099)
Yes, docks in Melbourne on Monday, but I can see it being another three weeks or so before I can collect it here in Tasmania.
Unfortunately it isn't a GT4 though, see my posts earlier in this thread. Still looking forward to it though. Also the only port web cam I could find on the whole route is at Fremantle, so you can see the boat in realtime if you are keen.
Originally Posted by roders
(Post 13321148)
Looks like everyone who wanted a GT4 in Australia was able to get one :).
Eventually...... |
Looks like new round for GT3-RS Allocations also just came out for end of year.
One more just locked at PCP :) |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13321169)
Looks like you ordered the GTS, a friend has one and he's absolutely wrapped in it.
Yes it does seem that way doesn't it. As of late last week there's a new allocation at PCM as well if anyone is interested.
Originally Posted by roders
(Post 13321182)
Looks like new round for GT3-RS Allocations also just came out for end of year.
One more just locked at PCP :) |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13320447)
It is a slow process but somewhat perversely enjoyable if you like your detail.
The boat departs Germany and goes to Belgium, UK, Spain, 3 stops in South Africa, Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Kembla and lastly Brisbane. It takes 5 weeks to get to Melbourne. Post back how you go. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13324598)
My car was built on the 12th of May, that's 15 days ago and no shipping details yet.
When you put your VIN in the tracking portal does it come up with results? |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13324598)
My car was built on the 12th of May, that's 15 days ago and no shipping details yet.
The other outlier is that it could be that the car was sent off for a random QA check, which delays the process. |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13326557)
I am suprised that it did not go on the boat on the 16th of May. Mine was built on the 3rd of May, was booked on 13th of May and the boat departed on the 16th.
When you put your VIN in the tracking portal does it come up with results?
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13326744)
Search by your commission number then, something doesn't seem right.
The other outlier is that it could be that the car was sent off for a random QA check, which delays the process. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13326864)
Yes entered Vin No. in the Cargo ID , this is what it says "No records found" and that's it, nothing else come up.
Great, that's all I need. I'll try and look on the bright side and think they'll give my car a good look through. Also just to check the validity of your vin, put it into here: http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Porsche It doesn't tell you much, but see if it says it is a Australian Spec GT4. At least that way you know your VIN is right. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13327093)
Ask you dealer for your commission number and search for that.
Also just to check the validity of your vin, put it into here: http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Porsche It doesn't tell you much, but see if it says it is a Australian Spec GT4. At least that way you know your VIN is right. My dealer had no idea what a commission number is, he said it should be the same as stock number which is one letter and a series of 5 numbers. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13327224)
Thanks, validity came up with a boxter order..!!!
My sales rep had no idea what a commission number is, he said it should be the same as stock number which is one letter and a series of 5 numbers. The Commission number is one letter and 5 numbers. Get that number. In face you can ask for a screen print off Porsche Australia's Dealer Connect System. |
Here are some screen shots with deleted numbers.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9507ac4770.gif https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72db793a56.png |
So what do you get when you type the G stock number in to the customer reference field on the WW search?
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I don't think it has been handed to WW yet, as it hasn't been invoiced to Porsche Australia by the look of that screen shot and no boat is listed.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13327286)
So what do you get when you type the G stock number in to the customer reference field on the WW search?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ef97918d92.png |
For whatever reason Porsche haven't handed it over to the shipping line yet. Not much you can do but keep on trying it daily until it pops up.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13327301)
For whatever reason Porsche haven't handed it over to the shipping line yet. Not much you can do but keep on trying it daily until it pops up.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13327307)
Ok, thanks for your help.
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Just received WW logistics vessel booking, ETD 1st June with an ETA 10th July. car was built on 12th May, that's exactly 3 weeks to vessel ETD. Had no notification prior today.
Thanks for everyone's help. |
Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13339006)
Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C So it all depends on a whole host of factors. At least you know where it is now and have a date. That is livable, not knowing isn't. |
That's awesome and great to hear the timing was so good for you. Better go buy a tattslotto ticket :)
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13339020)
That's awesome and great to hear the timing was so good for you. Better go buy a tattslotto ticket :)
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13339006)
Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C Is that you Chris Perry? If it is, its me Jim (JimTT) |
Great news James. Glad to hear it wasn't one of those affected by the accident.
The timing seems right, mine was built 03/05 and on a boat 16/05. I guess it depends on the boat availability. |
Question about Paint Protection.
Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end? Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it. After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection. The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years. What are everyone's thoughts on this? |
At least you guys made it onto the boat :(
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater Mine is still in Melbourne on vacation and waiting to come home...... ;) |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13339249)
Question about Paint Protection.
Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end? Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it. After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection. The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Film does both of protecting the paint from impacts and the clear from fine swirl scratches. Like any product though, it needs up keep in the form of a fine polish like Clearplex Plastic cleaner to keep the clarity. I am doing a full front wrap on mine, plus the sills, up the rear guards, full roof, windscreen pillars and mirrors. Plus I am also fitting Clearplex windscreen film to prevent hazing and chips. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13339266)
From my understanding glass coating is designed to try an prevent fine scratches in the clear and offers next to no protection for rock impacts.
Film does both of protecting the paint from impacts and the clear from fine swirl scratches. Like any product though, it needs up keep in the form of a fine polish like Clearplex Plastic cleaner to keep the clarity. I am doing a full front wrap on mine, plus the sills, up the rear guards, full roof, windscreen pillars and mirrors. Plus I am also fitting Clearplex windscreen film to prevent hazing and chips. |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13339239)
Great news James. Glad to hear it wasn't one of those affected by the accident.
The timing seems right, mine was built 03/05 and on a boat 16/05. I guess it depends on the boat availability. |
Yes Jim it's me. :)
Glad your car is on the water now. Cheers Chris |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13339249)
Question about Paint Protection.
Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end? Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it. After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection. The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years. What are everyone's thoughts on this? |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13339024)
And for you to stop walking under ladders :)
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13339355)
I have had the front from the windscreen forward wrapped, under sills inlet blades, door handles and mirrors as well. The back half of the car is ceramic coated and after the wrap I put a spray on ceramic sealer called Reload over the top. The wrap is so so. Cannot say I am thrilled with it but it's doing its job and preventing chips etc. it is going back to get some of the wrap redone due dirt underneath the wrap and some imperfections.
How is the unwrapped parts of the car going with less protection? Do you track the car? |
No problem really. The car wil not be tracked or rained upon if I can help it. :)
The only area that seems to have copped a little bit is the rear guards at the bottom behind the tyres but even if it was wrapped I think it would have too. I have done 3500km so far... |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13339342)
Yes Jim it's me. :)
Glad your car is on the water now. Cheers Chris Good to see you on here, looks like you're really enjoying your car, it definitely looks amazing in black. Hope to catch up soon. :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13327281)
Here are some screen shots with deleted numbers.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342734)
James I have been doing a bit more digging and found out that the "Production date" was the actual scheduled date from when you got a commission number. Your actual build date is "Plwk" for product week, so yours came off the line much later. So yours didn't sit around for any length of time.
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Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13342754)
Hmmm, my build date is 23 May 16, but my Plwk is 23. I still don't have a confirmation on WWL... :(
My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342734)
James I have been doing a bit more digging and found out that the "Production date" was the actual scheduled date from when you got a commission number. Your actual build date is "Plwk" for product week, so yours came off the line much later. So yours didn't sit around for any length of time.
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342757)
Week 23 is next week. So I'd say it hasn't come out of build yet.
My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at. My car was booked on the ship 24th of May and loaded on the 1st of June, build date 12th May, what am I missing here. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13342839)
I'm not sure I understand this, if I work out 22 weeks from the start of Jan that works out to be 3rd of June.
My car was booked on the ship 24th of May and loaded on the 1st of June, build date 12th May, what am I missing here. When I look at my AS400 shot, my "Build date" is 28/3/16 and my "Plwk" is 15. I know that my dealer told me that it came out of week 15 which was the week ending 15/4/16 and it got booked on the boat on 11/4/16, loaded on to the boat on the 18th and billed to Porsche Cars Australia on 19th. This tallies up with week 15, not week 13 (28/3/16). So I don't think your stated build date is correct based on my car's details and meaning its sat around for a few weeks unaccounted for. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342860)
I think the build date on your AS400 screen shot isn't the actual build date, only the first date allocated for it.
When I look at my AS400 shot, my "Build date" is 28/3/16 and my "Plwk" is 15. I know that my dealer told me that it came out of week 15 which was the week ending 15/4/16 and it got booked on the boat on 11/4/16, loaded on to the boat on the 18th and billed to Porsche Cars Australia on 19th. This tallies up with week 15, not week 13 (28/3/16). So I don't think your stated build date is correct based on my car's details and meaning its sat around for a few weeks unaccounted for. Edit; My Port delivery date changed in as many days, first it was 10th then 11th and now 12th of July. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342757)
Week 23 is next week. So I'd say it hasn't come out of build yet.
My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13342874)
Nice bit of info and thanks for explaining.
Edit; My Port delivery date changed in as many days, first it was 10th then 11th and now 12th of July. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13342902)
It looks like the Faust is late leaving, so it will keep on blowing out until it does depart Zeebrugge.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13342930)
Yes, at least 2 days stop over, maybe mechanical issues with the boat.
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Regarding wrapping, my car is white and I have had the full front including "A" pillars, sills up to the panel join behind the scoop, and small strips behind the rear wheels, done in Racewrap Pro that Shane says will not yellow. He has experience with a number of products and he is confident that the material he is using currently will not yellow.
We did not do any disassembly work to wrap into the panel joins as I consider the film is sacrificial and expect I will replace sections at some stage. Also I did not want to disturb the factory build by pulling the car apart. We did however pop the headlights out to tuck the film in behind them, which is a very easy job. I am very satisfied with the result and Shane was very particular about getting everything just right. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13347617)
I see you are up and running now James. Got your Sat Nav subscription on Marine Traffic now? :corn:
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13349302)
Yes up and running, boat currently at Southampton. Having problems trying to sign up, keeps coming up with "fatal errors". No big deal.
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My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)
Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to watch it sail my way :corn: |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)
Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to watch it sail my way :corn: |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13359223)
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Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)
Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to watch it sail my way :corn: |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13359290)
Congrats, time seems to pass slow waiting. Mine's scheduled to arrive at the port on the 12th of July. I had a call from PCM with a delivery date of 20th.
Thanks James. My car should be in Melbourne on 19 July, so hopefully I should have a delivery on 27 Jul 16, cross fingers! Sorta fits in with the Plwk 22 and 23! |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13359290)
Congrats, time seems to pass slow waiting. Mine's scheduled to arrive at the port on the 12th of July. I had a call from PCM with a delivery date of 20th.
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13359558)
Thanks James. My car should be in Melbourne on 19 July, so hopefully I should have a delivery on 27 Jul 16, cross fingers! Sorta fits in with the Plwk 22 and 23!
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Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13361048)
How accurate is the 8 day delivery from arriving to port? My car is due to arrive at port on the 27th of June, so does that mean I should pick it up around 5th of July? I have never had a car deliver so quick after docking, but then again I have never bought a brand new Porsche before either.
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Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.
FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too. Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!) |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.
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^^ I'm keen for a set of those too Brad. Did you buy them from Evolve or bring them in yourself. (I presume you have gone for the 200cel long tube?).
I can do a catch up early that week (30th Fri/ 1st Sat I'm stuffed with EOFY ****). |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13361701)
^^ I'm keen for a set of those too Brad. Did you buy them from Evolve or bring them in yourself. (I presume you have gone for the 200cel long tube?).
I can do a catch up early that week (30th Fri/ 1st Sat I'm stuffed with EOFY ****). I did opt for the 200cel sports headers. Originally was considering the 100cel option, but they are not roadworthy and it appears they don't last as long. Catless seems far too loud for daily driving - particularly around sleepy Hobart. I am reasonably flexible in terms of catching up, but my car will be in the shop for at least Monday and Tuesday. I actually arrive overnight on the Ferry 24/25th, so could perhaps catch up on that weekend. When are others free? |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.
FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too. Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!) Do you mind letting me know how much you paid for your wrap and their contact details. Do they wrap it around the edges and does it have a reasonable gloss finish to it? I have another daily P car and I'm pretty keen to catch up. I'd love to see your car. I'm free this Sunday morning and Monday, where do you live, I'm in Balwyn. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13362194)
Hey Snowman
Do you mind letting me know how much you paid for your wrap and their contact details. Do they wrap it around the edges and does it have a reasonable gloss finish to it? I have another daily P car and I'm pretty keen to catch up. I'd love to see your car. I'm free this Sunday morning and Monday, where do you live, I'm in Balwyn. Mine was done completely through Porsche Centre Brighton. Was $2300 inc. I know the deal through Shane which Chris got was $2,000 but you had to get the car out to Sunshine (I'm down in Aspendale). I'm heading out with the Otium guys on Sunday for a run up to Macedon. We are meeting at the Lorbek Carpark in Port Melbourne at around 10am (cruise leaves around 10:45 but I'll be there from 10ish). It's a good spot to meet - it was where I was going to suggest we meet if we wanted to do a GT4 meet-up as well. Happy to show you the wrap job there on Sunday morning. (Will be good general car porn as well. I think 80+ supercars are registered for the cruise). Here's a pic from one earlier this year when I first got my car. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ab4181f211.jpg |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13361889)
I arranged through Evolve as I had a limited window in Melbourne and it would be expensive for me to stick around if the logistics didn't work themselves out. I haven't done the maths - is it economical to bring them in yourself?
I did opt for the 200cel sports headers. Originally was considering the 100cel option, but they are not roadworthy and it appears they don't last as long. Catless seems far too loud for daily driving - particularly around sleepy Hobart. I am reasonably flexible in terms of catching up, but my car will be in the shop for at least Monday and Tuesday. I actually arrive overnight on the Ferry 24/25th, so could perhaps catch up on that weekend. When are others free? |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13362241)
Brad - Sat 25th or Sunday 26th works for me if others are keen. My wife and kids are away so I have an easy leave pass all weekend. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13361669)
I will be in Melbourne the week of the 27th June if you guys want to meet up then. I'm taking advantage of being in Melbourne to get cargraphic headers and a tune installed by evolve. :D
Would love to hear your thoughts once you get the tune and headers done. |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13362398)
Do headers work with the Sports Exhaust System? Do you still have the normal and sports modes?
Would love to hear your thoughts once you get the tune and headers done. Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13362241)
Brad - Sat 25th or Sunday 26th works for me if others are keen. My wife and kids are away so I have an easy leave pass all weekend. :cool:
Anyone else able to make it along? |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13362233)
James - yes they definitely wrap full around the edges. You need to pop the bonnet to see where the wrap ends for example.
Mine was done completely through Porsche Centre Brighton. Was $2300 inc. I know the deal through Shane which Chris got was $2,000 but you had to get the car out to Sunshine (I'm down in Aspendale). I'm heading out with the Otium guys on Sunday for a run up to Macedon. We are meeting at the Lorbek Carpark in Port Melbourne at around 10am (cruise leaves around 10:45 but I'll be there from 10ish). It's a good spot to meet - it was where I was going to suggest we meet if we wanted to do a GT4 meet-up as well. Happy to show you the wrap job there on Sunday morning. (Will be good general car porn as well. I think 80+ supercars are registered for the cruise). Lol...80 cars, there might be a few more now that this publicly posted on here. I'll swing past at 10am this Sunday, I'll be coming in a silver 996 Turbo coupe. I think from memory you have a blue GT4, is that correct? Oh, they call me Jim by the way, I know it's a bit confusing as my forum name is james, but they wont let you change it, stuck for life. I should be good for the 26th June but wont have my GT4 then. EDIT; I know some nice twisty roads through to the east, I'm happy to lead if you're interested in an early start and finish, say meet at 7am in Doncaster and can come back as early as 11am or even stretch it out further. Anyone on here is welcome, Ideally up to 8 or 9 cars usually works well. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13362437)
Yes - the headers replace the existing manifolds, but not the sports exhaust which will continue to function as it did before. Should provide an easy way to modulate the noise if the headers significantly increase the sound. Feedback from others indicates the sports headers only increase volume by about 25% which sounds about perfect to me.
Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune. an aussie review would be awesome, |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13362437)
Yes - the headers replace the existing manifolds, but not the sports exhaust which will continue to function as it did before. Should provide an easy way to modulate the noise if the headers significantly increase the sound. Feedback from others indicates the sports headers only increase volume by about 25% which sounds about perfect to me.
Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune. |
I have the CG sport header on.
The USA ones will fit but there is a fitment issue, so you need to tell them you will require the one to match your existing header part numbers. I got mine from BGB. |
Snowman, thanks for posting about the wrap organised by PCB, I'll be talking to them about this. $2300 seems like a good price (I had my Ducati 1098R done and love the wrap!)
Bardman, keep us updated on the CG headers and tune from Evolve Technik. I've been looking at my options - straight COBB Accessport tune; Fabspeed 450 package (tempting, very tempting, and John Gaydos is a very, very cool guy.... but having to import and finding someone to install is well mmmm and.... warranty...!), or Evolve Technik (left a message with them and no reply :grr:.... hmmm.... and again.... warranty....!) Leong72, thanks mate, tracking the ship online is killing me! :) (HURRY UP FAT RED W&W CARGO SHIP) |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.
FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too. Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!) Just catching up with this sorry. Yes we absolutely must catch up. Will give you a call in the next week and see what we can do. Good price on your wrap. It was Sunbury to get it done so even further than Sunshine and one of the reasons I haven't managed to get mine rectified as I just haven't had the time to get the car out there and back. Speak soon Chris |
Sounds good Chris.
Jim - good to meet you on Sunday. Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise. Also interesting to hear on the weekend that PCM have 2x GT4 allocations available for Sept deliveries incase anyone knows someone who is looking for one. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13369285)
Sounds good Chris.
Jim - good to meet you on Sunday. Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise. Also interesting to hear on the weekend that PCM have 2x GT4 allocations available for Sept deliveries incase anyone knows someone who is looking for one. Your car sounds amazing, I would not want mine any louder than that, its just perfect. That blue looks gorgeous in the flesh. Super surprised regaring tune not affecting warranty, this doesn't sound right. I'm sure Porsche would not approve of it, I'd want it in writing if they did, you know they can always tell if it has been flashed. Big turn out just as you mentioned, how was the drive with that large group of eye candy. Here are some pics of the meeting point, if you dont want your pic posted, just let me know and I'll remove it. This was less than half of the cars. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7300445161.jpg Snowman and his hot rod. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d6b358161c.jpg The porkers, mines the very 1st 996TT. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5661d7ffb9.jpg |
A flash tune would invalidate warranty if something went wrong mechanically such as an over-rev. Headers would do too.
From my experience certainly when it gets to extended warranty, the dealers want the car back to factory specs, even down to the N rated tyres before they approve it. They have to take photos of the car to send to PCA too. |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)
Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to watch it sail my way :corn:
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13365474)
Snowman, thanks for posting about the wrap organised by PCB, I'll be talking to them about this. $2300 seems like a good price (I had my Ducati 1098R done and love the wrap!)
Bardman, keep us updated on the CG headers and tune from Evolve Technik. I've been looking at my options - straight COBB Accessport tune; Fabspeed 450 package (tempting, very tempting, and John Gaydos is a very, very cool guy.... but having to import and finding someone to install is well mmmm and.... warranty...!), or Evolve Technik (left a message with them and no reply :grr:.... hmmm.... and again.... warranty....!) Leong72, thanks mate, tracking the ship online is killing me! :) (HURRY UP FAT RED W&W CARGO SHIP) |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13367723)
Hi Snowy,
Just catching up with this sorry. Yes we absolutely must catch up. Will give you a call in the next week and see what we can do.
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13369518)
Your car sounds amazing, I would not want mine any louder than that, its just perfect.
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13369285)
Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise.
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13369518)
Super surprised regaring tune not affecting warranty, this doesn't sound right. I'm sure Porsche would not approve of it, I'd want it in writing if they did, you know they can always tell if it has been flashed.
In any case, I actually don't think there is an such thing as "voiding" your warranty. If you make a claim and you have after aftermarket add ons, the onus is on the manufacturer to prove that the add on caused the damage if they want to dispute the claim. However, if it did end up in a courtroom you have lost already (through your lost time and money) so I think its a decision that each individual has to make based on their risk profile.
Originally Posted by Snowman
Otium guys
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Bardman,
You shouldn't post pics like that, its boarding on porn....ha ha. But seriously, that's a work of art. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13379511)
Bardman,
You shouldn't post pics like that, its boarding on porn....ha ha. But seriously, that's a work of art. Looking forward to seeing what they look like with ceramic coating. |
My ETA keeps changing, originally it was due on 10th July at port, then 12th and now it has just gone to the 14th. At this rate I'll be lucky to see it any time in July, might even be August.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13384629)
My ETA keeps changing, originally it was due on 10th July at port, then 12th and now it has just gone to the 14th. At this rate I'll be lucky to see it any time in July, might even be August.
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Got one on the same boat... Boo
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8 Caymans, 1 911 and 1 Spyder on the boat for Melbourne discharge by the look of it. Along with 1 911, 6 Caymans for Port Kembla. A heap of Mecans for all ports too.
My GTS arrived at the dealer yesterday, collection on Thursday. Jim it would be interesting to see what they put on your compliance date for the build month. I came out of week 15, mid April, but the build date on the compliance is March, which was my original build date. However the shipping paint protection film applied to the car has a sticker on it saying March 29, so your build date is at the start of production, not end if you are crossing months. |
What was the turn around time from local port to dealer?
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Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13385008)
What was the turn around time from local port to dealer?
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Anyone else asked or asking the dealer to show the car on a hoist for under body inspection prior to collection? Or is this considered ott?
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Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13385031)
Anyone else asked or asking the dealer to show the car on a hoist for under body inspection prior to collection? Or is this considered ott?
I got my dealer to contact me as soon as it got wheeled off the truck and went to look at it then. But obviously you don't get to see underneath it. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psyikw6jyf.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psgmzcyhq3.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pskwssylwc.jpg |
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13384974)
Got one on the same boat... Boo
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13384991)
8 Caymans, 1 911 and 1 Spyder on the boat for Melbourne discharge by the look of it. Along with 1 911, 6 Caymans for Port Kembla. A heap of Mecans for all ports too.
My GTS arrived at the dealer yesterday, collection on Thursday. Jim it would be interesting to see what they put on your compliance date for the build month. I came out of week 15, mid April, but the build date on the compliance is March, which was my original build date. However the shipping paint protection film applied to the car has a sticker on it saying March 29, so your build date is at the start of production, not end if you are crossing months. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13385249)
Same boat as me? were are you located? Waiting just seems to take for ever doesn't it.
That's a lot of Caymans, are they on the same boat as mine? Interesting regarding compliance date, thanks for the heads up. Your car looks awesome, nice wheels. |
Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:
1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia 2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia. 3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today. 4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks. 5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13386995)
Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:
1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia 2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia. 3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today. 4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks. 5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13387000)
But how are you identifying GT4 VINS from standard Cayman VINS?
Last 5 digits. GT4 start from 88072 latest one loaded is 90412 (for Australian GT4) |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13386995)
Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:
1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia 2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia. 3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today. 4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks. 5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13386995)
. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today.
4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks. 5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming. |
The dual allocation buggered up the market for all concerned, they should have said that they "might" be getting a second allocation through, rather than flatly saying they were all sold out with no hope. Now there are going to be some cars unsold at the end of this, when people like myself couldn't get one in the lull and bought something else.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13387208)
The dual allocation buggered up the market for all concerned, they should have said that they "might" be getting a second allocation through, rather than flatly saying they were all sold out with no hope. Now there are going to be some cars unsold at the end of this, when people like myself couldn't get one in the lull and bought something else.
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Originally Posted by IMOA
(Post 13387196)
That means a lot more than 60 in Aus currently as there's quite a few of us who got them in 15. Mine arrived in October and I was a couple of months behind Bardman and ...... I've forgotten who it was in WA.
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It appears that there's 121 in 2016 so add to that the 20-30 in 2015 and that brings us to 140-150. Iirc the Cayman R for Aus was about 30? I'd be interested to see if the GT4 outsold the S in Aus, it can't be too far off.
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From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1? |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13387299)
From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1? |
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13387210)
Based on what I'd read and was told by various dealers in VIC the first and fully sold AUS allocation was 70 x GT4's. Incidentally when I was in NZ Continental cars had deposits for a further 11 cars with no allocations confirmed and that was Feb'16. In March'16 I got the impression (and a phone call from my dealer) that production had been bumped up significantly to cover some of the short fall which PCA mentioned was at the 140 car mark - so I'd anticipate somewhere in the middle at the least as it still seems some will miss out.
Same as the GT3RS I guess, apparently they are still making them with allocations still coming through and builds going through to the end of the year. |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13389019)
When I placed my order in late 2015 my dealer said he had 6 others infront of me and the chances were slim to none. They were getting 1 allocation every couple of months. After bugging my dealer for weeks in March to get a definite answer I ended up placing my order for the C63s Coupe which I was also in line for. 3 days after I confirmed my C63s Coupe order I got a call from my dealer advising that I got a GT4 allocation. I don't think anyone had any idea that they were getting such a large 2nd batch.
Same as the GT3RS I guess, apparently they are still making them with allocations still coming through and builds going through to the end of the year. Can't take anything away on GT4 it's undeniably a great car even at the 150+ onshore example mark and it didn't put me off knowing there was a second batch being baked and who knows what the 718 GT4 will offer. I do feel for those that did make alternative plans on the information Porsche initially provided. I sold my F80 M3 and bought a Mazda 2 until I had a solid yes or no or identified the better alternative within range. The extended thinking is that if I'd missed on GT4 I can safely say I'm not a used car buyer and wouldn't have been interested in a hiked up price on an 800km example or car that's done several thousand kms and had a life -for me the car needs to be an x rated virgin fresh out of the box! But each to their own. The resale I assume like everything else it'll drop like a bomb and factored that into my decision making accordingly. Guess we'll all be in that boat together and for those that play the long term strategy it might pickup. |
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13389066)
The resale I assume like everything else it'll drop like a bomb and factored that into my decision making accordingly.
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So a mate of mine went in to PCM on Saturday and placed an order for one for Oct delivery. He went to looks at the Agate Grey / PCCB one that is for sale on carsales, and ended up ordering a new one instead.
Interestingly the agate one that PCM are selling as an ex-demo is being sold below the initial delivery price. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13389226)
So a mate of mine went in to PCM on Saturday and placed an order for one for Oct delivery. He went to looks at the Agate Grey / PCCB one that is for sale on carsales, and ended up ordering a new one instead.
Interestingly the agate one that PCM are selling as an ex-demo is being sold below the initial delivery price. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13387381)
My last 3 digits are 583, where does that put me on the list?
FWIW, it arrived third in a group of 4 x GT4- same boat as Jim Richard's targa Tassie GT4. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2a53146fb7.jpg So for Aussie GT4's First 2015 batch: 19 Landed from second batch from end of 2015: 61 Enroute from the second batch: 60 Total landed or en route as of 17/6: 140 Certainly sounds like a lot- maybe that's why Aussie flippers are dropping their prices- the guy who initially listed his GT4 on at $320k- priceless! Certainly looks like anyone who wanted one got an allocation. A similar search reveals 67 GT3RS landed or shipping but also still counting. The last RS was just loaded in BREMERHAVEN on 17/6... |
^^ My mate that ordered the GT4 on Saturday was trying to get an RS alloaction but couldn't get one.
He's put a deposit down on the 991.2 RS and is getting the GT4 in between. Anyways - he was told the one there was ex-demo. Either way it was very low kms. Main reason he ended up ordering a new one was he didn't want the PCCB's. Interesting that it is now off the market - must have been a busy afternoon as he was test driving it at 2pm on Saturday! |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13389245)
^^ My mate that ordered the GT4 on Saturday was trying to get an RS alloaction but couldn't get one.
He's put a deposit down on the 991.2 RS and is getting the GT4 in between. Anyways - he was told the one there was ex-demo. Either way it was very low kms. Main reason he ended up ordering a new one was he didn't want the PCCB's. Interesting that it is now off the market - must have been a busy afternoon as he was test driving it at 2pm on Saturday! |
Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13389257)
Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13389257)
Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.
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It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.
Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389435)
Was he trying to sell privately, which website was it on and what price was it at then, how long ago was it, do you have that ad handy?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f8b132c5e2.png Carsales ad: 2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 MY16 "dealer demo" 650km $259,000 drive away VIC reg: AIG750 LMCT: 3140 Features Include : - Metallic Paint - Sport Chrono Package - GTS and Alcantara Package - Full Bucket Seats - Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes - Wheels Painted in Satin Black - Centre Console Trim in Carbon - Racing Yellow Seat Belts - Sun Visors in Leather - Storage Compartment Lid in Alcantara - Dashboard Trim Package in Leather - PCM Package in Leather - Carbon Interior Package - Door Trim package in Leather/Alcantara - Door Sill Guards in Carbon - Inner Door Sill Guards in Leather - Black Bi-Xenon Headlights - Light Design Package - Stitching in Contrasting Colour - Instrument Surround Upper Section in Leather - Steering Column Casing in Leather - Vehicle Key Painted - Online Services https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee227e6aea.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f764290193.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f234149d0.png https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f6242f5eee.png https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1aa662a295.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4047c779a8.png https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...054dea1111.png https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3857d96e81.png https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8d99f70690.png https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b41bcccf83.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...108d84588b.png https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2014796942.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0f93acafdf.png |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg |
A freind is taking my white one.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389471)
A freind is taking my white one.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.
Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1. That's certainly one unique way to avoid the last one month of waiting. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.
Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg I'm sure one day you'll meet Paul who is my mate that looked at it on the weekend. |
[QUOTE=James88;13389435]It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.
Great looking package! Does it vary much from your white spec? Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat? |
Good on you Jim. Like Agate Grey it was a colour I considered when I specced mine. Very different spec to what you were originally going for....
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13387299)
From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1? |
Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13389482)
Congrats James - looks awesome. Will you have it this Sunday? Would be good for the two agates to meet up! :D
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13389485)
Fantastic- congrats. 918 seats and 918 brakes. Colour combo looks great- especially the interior detail. Awesome pickup.
That's certainly one unique way to avoid the last one month of waiting.
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13389512)
Haha - nice one Jim. It's a great spec.
I'm sure one day you'll meet Paul who is my mate that looked at it on the weekend.
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13389518)
Great looking package! Does it vary much from your white spec?
Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat?
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13389523)
Good on you Jim. Like Agate Grey it was a colour I considered when I specced mine. Very different spec to what you were originally going for....
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Originally Posted by WAY
(Post 13389640)
Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389677)
I just saw this, thank you. What is AE? Was this your car !!!!!
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Guys,
The first delivered GT4 in Australia was to Perth. That is my car :thumbsup:. The week before Fathers day. Twas a good Fathers day ;). Oh and that blurb in Christophourious about the first GT4 is WRONG :banghead:. Just had to set the record straight....ha ha. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13389677)
I just saw this, thank you. What is AE? Was this your car !!!!!
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13389446)
Carsales ad:
2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 MY16 "dealer demo" 650km $259,000 drive away VIC reg: AIG750 LMCT: 3140 Features Include : - Metallic Paint - Sport Chrono Package - GTS and Alcantara Package - Full Bucket Seats - Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes - Wheels Painted in Satin Black - Centre Console Trim in Carbon - Racing Yellow Seat Belts - Sun Visors in Leather - Storage Compartment Lid in Alcantara - Dashboard Trim Package in Leather - PCM Package in Leather - Carbon Interior Package - Door Trim package in Leather/Alcantara - Door Sill Guards in Carbon - Inner Door Sill Guards in Leather - Black Bi-Xenon Headlights - Light Design Package - Stitching in Contrasting Colour - Instrument Surround Upper Section in Leather - Steering Column Casing in Leather - Vehicle Key Painted - Online Services https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee227e6aea.png One this I noticed is the painted key is yellow, I thought you could only order the painted key to match the exterior paint colour. The car has got the key to match the interior seat belt and stitching colour which is what I wanted to do with mine but didn't think it was possible. |
Thanks for all the replies, does anyone know if l can run steel rotors with these yellow calipers?
Just a thought, as l was thinking of maybe preserving the ceramics. |
^^ Jim - there are some options.
This is one for example - https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9402...for-pccbs.html |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13391210)
Thanks for all the replies, does anyone know if l can run steel rotors with these yellow calipers?
Just a thought, as l was thinking of maybe preserving the ceramics. My PCCBs' on the Cayman S have done 70kms and still look like new. Almost zero wear. |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13391252)
^^ Jim - there are some options.
This is one for example - https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9402...for-pccbs.html
Originally Posted by GAZZ
(Post 13391429)
Why bother? You'll never wear out PCCB on the street. Unless your track hammering for 2 hours per week every week.
My PCCBs' on the Cayman S have done 70kms and still look like new. Almost zero wear. |
Originally Posted by WAY
(Post 13389640)
Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.
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Originally Posted by AlpineR
(Post 13389634)
Being a 981 Spyder owner, I'd love to know the numbers for them in Aus, can you help?
The only publically available 981 Spyder VIN I could verify is: WP0ZZZ98ZGS150250. Based on that, their sequence is between WP0ZZZ98ZGS150000 - 1999. This looks right as the US Spyder Registry thread leaves less than 2000 produced for ROW (ie not counting North America). Plus the sequence before and after these VINs return no results. So here you go! https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6fc8d562fc.jpg *1524 is going to Port Kembla. 25 x Spyders up to today and as the last one was loaded over a month ago that might be it. I can do the search again in a month to see if there any others pop up but certainly looks like very low numbers compared with 140 x GT4 and 67 x GT3RS (and still counting). PS: I've stopped blanking out VINs as they are publically available. If folks have a problem with that, please chime in. Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13392081)
Sure but 981 Spyders are seldom spotted so gathering data to verify their VIN sequence is a little harder than GT4/RS. Instagram has plenty of Aussie GT4/RS as it seems every car obsessed teenager old enough to own an iPhone likes getting their spotted pic on Instagram (and maybe a few adults too!).
The only publically available 981 Spyder VIN I could verify is: WP0ZZZ98ZGS150250. Based on that, their sequence is between WP0ZZZ98ZGS150000 - 1999. This looks right as the US Spyder Registry thread leaves less than 2000 produced for ROW (ie not counting North America). Plus the sequence before and after these VINs return no results. So here you go! https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6fc8d562fc.jpg *1524 is going to Port Kembla. 25 x Spyders up to today and as the last one was loaded over a month ago that might be it. I can do the search again in a month to see if there any others pop up but certainly looks like very low numbers compared with 140 x GT4 and 67 x GT3RS (and still counting). PS: I've stopped blanking out VINs as they are publically available. If folks have a problem with that, please chime in. Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13392081)
Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs.
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13391811)
You were previous owner? Why did you sell?
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13389518)
Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat?
http://premiumshield.com/premiumshield-elite/ |
OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.
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Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13392412)
OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13392111)
Great work DR1VEN.
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13392235)
This would be great. Are you aware of a VIN decoder that works for Australian VINs? The one that gmaki uses only works for NA VINs (I tried it on mine to test).
A lot of the VIN stays the same for each model. The model (981/991) is digit 7,8,12. The factory is digit 11. What changes is the model year- digit 11 and then the unique serial number in digits 14-17 (inclusive). These last digits are grouped for each model like GT4 or GT3RS etc. After verifying a VIN, searching the surrounding numbers on the shipping database gives us the total numbers imported to Australia. The trick is to find all sequences- it looks like MY16 Spyder has 1 (like NA Spyder VINs) but MY16 GT4 looks like 2 (again, same as NA database) and MY16 GT3RS looks like 2. GT3 is more difficult as it has MY14 and MY15 and I don't know how many sequences in each. The more verified VINs, the more certain we are that all sequences have been found so it helps if folks can share any unidentified ROW VINs if we do this. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13392412)
OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.
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^^^ scratch that, I see you have taken delivery of your GTS. Sorry, confused with another Rennlister!
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13393971)
^^^ scratch that, I see you have taken delivery of your GTS. Sorry, confused with another Rennlister!
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13394098)
If you read what he wrote, he was able to transfer his deposit to the other car - no deposit lost. I still have no comprehension on how you were not able to do the same, let alone lose an extra 30k.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13394148)
Because our local dealer didn't want to stock the car, but wholesale it on. In a market like Melbourne they will be able to sell the GT4 without too much issue.
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^^^^ Yep, I'm guessing the retail price of NBTBRV8's GTS with PCCB, optioned wheels and lights is pretty close if not in GT4 territory so the dealer's reluctance to take it into stock is pretty understandable- especially if the factory is still taking GT4 orders.
But those options do make that GTS extra special. From Chris Harris' conclusion on the new 718S Boxster: "Despite the extra speed, I’d prefer a nearly new six-cylinder car from last year, but here’s the bit that will really stick in the craw of the opposition: even though Porsche has made the new Boxster less desirable than the old Boxster, it is still by far the best car of its type." So a NEW six-cylinder 981 just the way you want it would be even better. Congrats NBTBRV8 and enjoy. Post some pics! |
just got news my car has been built - now the 2 month delivery time - this will be the longest I have ever waited for a car: 10 months - so long my eyes have started to stray to other cars, only the GT4 picture thread has kept me faithful
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Hi All
If anyone is looking for a GT4, I have one available. It is one of the last allocations (June build) and due for August Delivery. It is in NSW and you will be the first registered owner as the contract will be signed over to you. I'm an enthusiast and this was going to be my first Porsche (dream car basically) but the timing just isn't right for me and I've finally decided to let it go and hope that one day in the future I can pick one up. Details are: - White with Platinuim wheels (GT colour, perfect contrast combo of paint, wheels, tyre and red brakes) - Sport Bucket Seats (not 918) See pic below - Sport Chrono Package - Steering/Gear in Leather - Seat belts guards red - Smoking Package (cleaner console) - Passenger footwell storage net - Floor Mats - Fuel Tank 64 Litre - Tints If interested send me a PM and we can chat offline Thanks |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13393960)
Great result transferring your deposit! Any chance u can share the spec of the white car for rennlisters before it arrives?
Tempted to walk on your GTS deposit at PCB and buy PCM's white GT4 that was for James88??? :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.
They said they will not have any issues selling white one as there are no extra options, so its the starting retail price. Cheapest one available and its brand new. |
Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe
(Post 13394649)
just got news my car has been built - now the 2 month delivery time - this will be the longest I have ever waited for a car: 10 months - so long my eyes have started to stray to other cars, only the GT4 picture thread has kept me faithful
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I agree Brad. I had the same issue with the R35 GT-R's.
It's also why if they do decide to build the 991.2 GT3 with an optional 6MT it will give me a great dilemma. I love my GT4 and the gearbox option was the key to me buying it - but it'd be even more killer with an extra 100HP. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13394748)
No additional extras, pretty much stock.
No I did not lose my deposit, used it to secure the agate grey one, so no financial disadvantage at all plus the reduced cost and bonus free wrap and glass tint. They said they will not have any issues selling white one as there are no extra options, so its the starting retail price. Cheapest one available and its brand new. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13394802)
Sounds like a good deal, the Agate car whilst not my preferred colour was a top spec, so we'll done.
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My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5a&oe=580BA0CD |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13394756)
Nice one. Out of curiosity, where have you strayed to? If you want a NA manual or even just a manual, there really aren't many options. My first non manual car was my last car - a C63 507 edition - I just wasn't satisfied with pulling paddles (I even half heartedly looked into converting that car into a manual). I will stick with a manual car as long as I am able to.
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[QUOTE=Snowman.;13394821]My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.
Hows the macan for towing? was looking at a similar setup |
Nice package Andrew, towing in style.
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Nice setup. Great tow car.
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Any of you guys have a dashcam installed? Any recommendations?
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[QUOTE=No Heel No Toe;13394866]
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13394821)
My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.
Hows the macan for towing? was looking at a similar setup Fuel usage goes up from around 11.5l/100 normal to around 17l/100 when towing the GT4 which is not too bad. (With cruise set to 115 on the Hume). I really can't fault the Macan's. If anything their only fault is that the price of them makes you wonder why things like 991's are so expensive because you get a LOT of car for the $$$. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13394355)
Ok, got it now. From memory you had a very special spec which I guess would take time to sell and no doubt would sell at a discount. Still think they could have helped you out more to get into a gt4. It's not like you were going to the competition. In any case the gts got rave reviews also so you still end up with a special car.
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13394415)
^^^^ Yep, I'm guessing the retail price of NBTBRV8's GTS with PCCB, optioned wheels and lights is pretty close if not in GT4 territory so the dealer's reluctance to take it into stock is pretty understandable- especially if the factory is still taking GT4 orders.
But those options do make that GTS extra special. From Chris Harris' conclusion on the new 718S Boxster: "Despite the extra speed, I’d prefer a nearly new six-cylinder car from last year, but here’s the bit that will really stick in the craw of the opposition: even though Porsche has made the new Boxster less desirable than the old Boxster, it is still by far the best car of its type." So a NEW six-cylinder 981 just the way you want it would be even better. Congrats NBTBRV8 and enjoy. Post some pics! Unfortunately my ****ty camera phone over exposes Guards Red, but you get the idea. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pst0vt6all.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psgs6n9il6.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps627t15tg.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psj0emvn68.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pspzxrlsjq.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps70koklyt.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psnn1ufswm.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pssqdhguac.jpg |
^^^wow- very special GTS indeed. Manual, buckets, PCCB, sport techno, extra leather and cool seatbelts. The options on this one are right up there with James88 pretty much fully loaded agate GT4. :thumbup:
Are they coming with N1 P Zeros now? Looks like some thought went into those plates- echoes the official press shots. Nice touch. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0aace600a3.jpg |
Great looking car and very good spec. Well done and a big congratulations
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13397203)
^^^wow- very special GTS indeed. Manual, buckets, PCCB, sport techno, extra leather and cool seatbelts. The options on this one are right up there with James88 pretty much fully loaded agate GT4. :thumbup:
Are they coming with N1 P Zeros now? Looks like some thought went into those plates- echoes the official press shots. Nice touch. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0aace600a3.jpg PTV + LSD PCCB Smokers pack Homelink GTS communication package (red stitching & carbon trim) Entry and drive PDLS+ Bose Buckets Dimming mirrors + rain sensor Sports chassis -20mm Technos + black paint Leather steering column Yes the plates echo the German press cars, on my 997.2 GT3 I had TGO911. Unfortunately they come on the N0 Pirelli tyres still. Not a good tyre by all accounts. |
Beautiful car mate. Congrats. What a great colour, love the different shades in different light. :rockon:
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awesome, that's how a GTS should always be specced
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Beautiful GTS , very tastefully specced out. Those buckets look like they recline, is that right? If they do, well that's a big bonus.
Congratulations, hope you get lots of bonding time. Funny, my wife said I'll probably sleep in my car when it arrives, I think she may be a little jelly. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13397831)
Beautiful GTS , very tastefully specced out. Those buckets look like they recline, is that right? If they do, well that's a big bonus.
Congratulations, hope you get lots of bonding time. Funny, my wife said I'll probably sleep in my car when it arrives, I think she may be a little jelly. To me they feel more comfortable than LWBS. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13397020)
Hijacking a GT4 thread, but it is a GT4 lite.
Unfortunately my ****ty camera phone over exposes Guards Red, but you get the idea. |
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13397870)
BTW - you took a selfie here. Intentional? :D
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13397872)
Yeah, I didn't bother editing it out as we are all friends on here aren't we?
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Hey guys, thought I would introduce myself. Took delivery of my GT4 back in Feb. Carmine Red, full leather interior, silver contrast stitching and belts, lightweight buckets. Brilliant car. Absolutely loving it.
Some great info on here in relation to Aus allocation numbers. Seems as though most of you are Melbourne based, but not sure if there are any fellow Brisbane owners on the forum? Anyway, gratuitous pics... |
Very nice SammyJ, i am drooling over your car, i have a CR coming in August, have waited so lonnnnnngggg
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If anyone has a Carmine Red car with Porsche Entry and drive, I have a brand new Tequipment Carmine Red starter switch for sale that replaces the standard polished chrome item.
PM me if interested. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2d52dc77e.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...156a9c65f.jpeg |
We don't have a button.... We have to turn the key.
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13402558)
We don't have a button.... We have to turn the key.
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13402584)
You don't understand Porsche Entry & Drive. I know there is no button, those that have it will understand.
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Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13402641)
I think he means that the GT4 doesn't have entry and drive. :)
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Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13402691)
The GT4 doesn't have entry and drive? I didn't know they were such poverty models ;)
BTW my white GT4 sold within 2 min of my release, anyone here? |
That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you! C |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13402742)
BTW my white GT4 sold within 2 min of my release, anyone here?
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This is the last time I will post GTS stuff here, but for those interested here are some better photos with the right colour contrast this time.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pszkqpgcdd.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psmeu7wd9r.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pslv6inage.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psxilumcoj.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psxvdlhqir.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pso3nyjqoh.jpg |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13402691)
The GT4 doesn't have entry and drive? I didn't know they were such poverty models ;)
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13402904)
That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you! C |
Jim / Andrew - good to meet you both this morning. Nice collection of cars showed up as well. Will post up initial impressions on headers and tune, hopefully Wednesday or Thursday.
Look forward to some more photos of yours Jim. |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13402904)
That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you! C
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13405008)
Jim / Andrew - good to meet you both this morning. Nice collection of cars showed up as well. Will post up initial impressions on headers and tune, hopefully Wednesday or Thursday.
Look forward to some more photos of yours Jim. Yes good to me you and your car Brad, your car looks good and very similar to mine. Yes picture will be posted. Andrew, good to catch up and meet Paul who looked after my car on the Saturday test drive. Here are a few pics from this morning. Brads car. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2e95e56965.jpg The polarizing RS and some of the other cars. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...422b3211b3.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2af3d15c39.jpg |
Yeah was a good catch up. Paul wanted me to take him for a spin. I made him squeal like a little girl. Lol
I'll say it again - these cars are so much fun. :) Looking forwards to your feedback Brad. |
Sorry I didn't get to catch up with you guys today and meeting you Brad. Looking forward to hearing your opinion on the new headers!
C |
Great to see Aussie Cayman pics... even with that purple thing in the middle! :p Very nice :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13403015)
Wow... great result indeed considering another "demo" just got listed in VIC with roll cage n buckets- great spec for track. Wonder how long that will last considering a similar example with roll cage has been listed on and off in QLD for a while and is dropping the asking price by $2k/week. Other lightly used ones seem to be lingering a bit- are we about to see a price correction on used GT4 in Australia?
http://www.porschemelbourne.com.au/U...bodyType=Coupe |
That was on Carsales yesterday but has gone from there already.
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13405193)
That was on Carsales yesterday but has gone from there already.
A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while: SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc Admittedly the QLD seller is relisting due to a failed sale but price is also dropping AUD2k/week. I'm guessing there really are a lot more GT4s than folks realise- especially as PCM have been taking orders as late as the last week or so (from Snowman's mate) and sold the fully loaded agate one to James88 under original list price. More shipping spaces for Aussie GT4 appear to be being booked too which takes the total beyond 140. Great for a larger GT4 driving community, not so great for any short term flippers... :icon107: |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13406799)
Yep, taken off Carsales already but dunno if available as still on PCM's website?
A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while: SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc Admittedly the QLD seller is relisting due to a failed sale but price is also dropping AUD2k/week. I'm guessing there really are a lot more GT4s than folks realise- especially as PCM have been taking orders as late as the last week or so (from Snowman's mate) and sold the fully loaded agate one to James88 under original list price => really not as limited as first thought. More shipping spaces for Aussie GT4 appear to be being booked too which takes the total beyond 140. Great for a larger GT4 driving community, not so great for any short term flippers... :icon107: Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now! |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13406806)
I know there were allocations still floating around as recently as a few weeks ago.
Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now! Hang in there Charliekay... it gets darkest before the dawn. If you can't wait you could always do a James88 :D |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13406836)
Uncommitted allocations really explains why used ones at premiums don't move- why buy used when one can get a new one configured just the way they want it?
Hang in there Charliekay... it gets darkest before the dawn. If you can't wait you could always do a James88 :D |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13406806)
Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now!
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Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 13407046)
i'm pretty sure the second one that's coming to Sydney at the same time is mine.
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Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 13407046)
i'm pretty sure the second one that's coming to Sydney at the same time is mine.
White LWB's Clubsport Harness for the passenger Dynamic Lights Dimming Mirrors Interior LED package Bigger Tank |
Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 13407051)
PCSS
White LWB's Clubsport Harness for the passenger Dynamic Lights Dimming Mirrors Interior LED package Bigger Tank |
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13407053)
Nice. Mine is CMW as well w/ Platinum wheels. Do you know when you are expecting delivery?
a friend of mine has a wk 1 June build that he is picking up end of August from PCSS as well, looking at a few options to take the cars to EC in September |
For those train spotters like me, ask you dealer to keep all the build tags and stickers off the car that they dispose of during the PDI.
Just a nice memento to keep. |
Originally Posted by .dee
(Post 13407062)
I'm not pushing for it, i asked for wk 1 in August as I'm traveling throughout July. Also i need to figure out where to keep it as I'm running out of space.
a friend of mine has a wk 1 June build that he is picking up end of August from PCSS as well, looking at a few options to take the cars to EC in September |
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Cargraphic sports headers with ceramic coating. Hopefully going on tomorrow / Wednesday!
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13407192)
Cargraphic sports headers with ceramic coating. Hopefully going on tomorrow / Wednesday!
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Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe
(Post 13407245)
very cool, is the ceramic coating for the heat or HP
The theory is that the exhaust gases stay hotter and faster flowing as they are more insulated from the outside air temps. Additionally as the heat is retained less gets up into the engine bay leading to heat soak and affecting air intake temps. Shakenbake melted some wiring on his naked headers (I think mostly due to cable management issues), so I didn't want to take any chances and I don't really want to revisit the work once its done. Do it properly and don't worry about it was my thinking. |
awesome, if its successful i am going to copy you :burnout:
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Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe
(Post 13407280)
awesome, if its successful i am going to copy you :burnout:
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They Look great Brad. Very much looking forward to hearing your report once they are fitted. :)
C |
Brad,
The only real way to check it is to put the car on a dyno for before and after results. Do you plan on doing that? |
looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !! |
Congratulations Jim! No sleep tonight :) weather looks like being kind too....
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13409893)
Congratulations Jim! No sleep tonight :) weather looks like being kind too....
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Ann and I caught the train in :)
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Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13409901)
Ann and I caught the train in :)
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Funnily enough when the train got to Moorabbin we had to get off and catch a bus to caul field and then back on the train due to crossing works. The dealer found out we were on a bus and offered to collect us. Said don't worry it's all part of the experience and adventure :) much quicker and more pleasant drive home....
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Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13408838)
Brad,
The only real way to check it is to put the car on a dyno for before and after results. Do you plan on doing that? - Dyno of stock car - Dyno of car with sports headers only - Dyno of car with sports headers and tune |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13409889)
looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !! 1. Sports exhaust on 2. Tunnel 3. Windows down 4. Right foot into the carpet I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin: |
Good luck with the delivery Jim... Great car with great colour combo... Make sure you leave two big licorice straps in the PCM driveway on the way out...:nono::D
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13409950)
Enjoy Jim. I can recommend the following procedure:
1. Sports exhaust on 2. Tunnel 3. Windows down 4. Right foot into the carpet I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin:
Originally Posted by PodAus
(Post 13410015)
Good luck with the delivery Jim... Great car with great colour combo... Make sure you leave two big licorice straps in the PCM driveway on the way out...:nono::D
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Congrats James. Pics or it didn't happen! :D
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Congrats mate, you must be excited, but don't forget the pics :cool:
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13409950)
Enjoy Jim. I can recommend the following procedure:
1. Sports exhaust on 2. Tunnel 3. Windows down 4. Right foot into the carpet I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin: |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13409889)
looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !! Mine has just passed Cape Town lol |
Anyone local interested in some 19's for their car. I'm currently looking at putting together a small GB on some 19" Forgeline GA1R's
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b65adc1f8e.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ec78e2501.jpg |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13409945)
Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:
Yes, before dyno has been done. I dont have the results myself yet, but will post up all the results when I have them. If all goes to plan I will have: - Dyno of stock car - Dyno of car with sports headers only - Dyno of car with sports headers and tune |
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep. Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece. I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one. Here are some phone pics. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep. Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece. I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one. Here are some phone pics. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13412600)
Anyone local interested in some 19's for their car. I'm currently looking at putting together a small GB on some 19" Forgeline GA1R's
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b65adc1f8e.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ec78e2501.jpg Then again those Forgelines with some RE71Rs would be just the thing for track days. Do the Forgelines require much neg camber to fit? |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep. Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece. I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one. Here are some phone pics. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13412955)
Aaargh! Stop me thinking about spending more money :D
Then again those Forgelines with some RE71Rs would be just the thing for track days. Do the Forgelines require much neg camber to fit? As for neg camber - thanks to the Pioneering from guys like Shake'N'Bake we are speccing 19 x 9.0 +50 fronts which should be ideal without rubbing at the front (and we know 19 x 11.0 +45 work on the rears without issues with the toe rods etc) |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep... Here are some phone pics... https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg Just looking at that interior it looks like there is an extra cow's worth of leather in there! Is it the highest spec'd GT4 in Australia? And picked up under original list price! Fantastic purchase. One very special car. |
James88 - Car looks great. Love the build. Enjoy
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Hi all, not sure if it's been reported yet but THEBEN has docked at Port Elizabeth ZA an hour ago. Inching closer to Australia!
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Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13415085)
Hi all, not sure if it's been reported yet but THEBEN has docked at Port Elizabeth ZA an hour ago. Inching closer to Australia!
Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232? Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range. Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go... THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably <30 sleeps to go for you! :cheers: |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13415589)
Hey 76Vintage
Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232? Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range. Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go... THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably |
Hahaha. I can confirm this to the case. My VIN is within 150 of 190000 and it was unloaded at Port Kembla this morning, so plenty of GT4s after mine on the water.
Looking at WWL, I can see 55 GT4s in the 190xxx range. Stalked the boat coming into Port Kembla yesterday arvo using the Wollongong Beach webcam. :D https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9f62cfe335.png |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13415594)
US cars run a WP0AC VIN. ROW is WP0ZZZ
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13415597)
Hahaha. I can confirm this to the case. My VIN is within 150 of 190000 and it was unloaded at Port Kembla this morning, so plenty of GT4s after mine on the water.
Looking at WWL, I can see 55 GT4s in the 190xxx range. Stalked the boat coming into Port Kembla yesterday arvo using the Wollongong Beach webcam. :D Haha... love the beach cam shot. Car should be just 8-10 days away? |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13415614)
Yup. After a quick exchange with gmaki, looks like North America and ROW VIN sequences added together give us more than 5000 units... maybe 5500 by the end of production!!: https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8852...l#post13392572
Thanks Charliekay. Porsche really has ramped up production of Australian cars in the last little bit. The 190xxx GT4s loaded in June increased the total number of Aussie GT4 by about 50% - in just one month. Haha... love the beach cam shot. Car should be just 8-10 days away? |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13412954)
Sweet lookin' ride mate! Those PCCBs pop against the black wheels! Just awesome! Well done :)
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13414539)
Congrats mate, beautiful car. Colour combo is perfect.
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13414890)
Congrats on joining the GT4 club. Morning pick up but not until evening for a few phone pics at the gas station?!? Presuming PCM gave you a full tank of gas, that sounds like a great delivery day! :thumbup:
Just looking at that interior it looks like there is an extra cow's worth of leather in there! Is it the highest spec'd GT4 in Australia? And picked up under original list price! Fantastic purchase. One very special car.
Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
(Post 13414975)
James88 - Car looks great. Love the build. Enjoy
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mine is on that 27/6 boat :D
on another topic i couldn't buy RE71R's in oz, are you guys thinking of getting the wheels with the tyres fitted from the US? |
[QUOTE=DR1VEN;13415589]Hey 76Vintage
Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232? Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range. Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go... THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably haha, stalk away champ! if you come close to the VIN on my Mazda then let it be known I'll be doubling security! You are correct on GT4 VIN range. GT4 still not quite at Toyota Corolla numbers but let's give it time..! :p I assume in the back of our minds at some stage we've probably all speculated a final number for the 981 GT4? Are we calling it a nice round 1000 x GT4s in AUS by the end of the year? :) I'll eat my undies if my local used car yard has one on the lot with a "low km" sign on it...! It would seem that a few more cars nationwide will impact things like club day attendance, spare parts, detailing and paint protection, dealership technical experience, and the elephant in the room being resale - which I think will be more influenced by a big fat 718 GT4 with a 4.0L and close ratio trans... arrrgh! or a 3L turbo and PDK option of which we'll all be accusing the GT division of caving in to peer and boost pressure... and in that situation there could be a few hundred 2nd hand GT4's for sale very quickly or none! Totally out of curiosity I did ask my dealership about the suggestion that PCM in VIC were still giving new allocations on GT4's and having potentially unsold stock (as suggested on this forum a few weeks ago) and it doesn't totally stack up with the bulletin from head quarters which was to stop taking orders / expressions of interest in the hope of a further extension of production. Apparently the said notification came through to all dealers in May - but hey... I didn't see it with my own eyes so who knows how true that is. In summary there was serious doubt a fresh punter could walk in from the street and plonk down a deposit and go through the entire process of getting an (immediate) allocation, configuring, having it lock out, and then getting a build date in October 2016 for example... My thinking was a customer had backed out of a deal, remained on the books until a replacement customer came along. If it had not reached the lock out date then configuration was able to tuned to personal taste. Am I on the right track there? All positive for the dealer as they allocation and landed the sale. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13415589)
Hey 76Vintage
Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232? Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range. Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go... THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably <30 sleeps to go for you! :cheers: |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13415747)
Hmm.. My car is on the Theben, but my VIN is in the WP0ZZZ98ZGK1899xx range...
Obviously I'm only joking about that VIN comment above..! I'm inclined to say the VIN is what it is and trying to work out the number of cars based on the assumption of a sequential VIN range seems trivial. It's clear that one of us is going to need to get on the inside and debunk a few myths... I'm on the P web looking at options, I do note there is a Motorsport Manager position going in Italy... I should clarify that my GT4 is within the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232 range. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13409945)
Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:
Yes, before dyno has been done. I dont have the results myself yet, but will post up all the results when I have them. If all goes to plan I will have: - Dyno of stock car - Dyno of car with sports headers only - Dyno of car with sports headers and tune Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good. I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw. First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin: I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(
Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good. I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw. First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin: I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet. Now that power gain is impressive! |
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13415757)
Isn't that a Panamera vin??? :) Maybe it's a 4 door GT4 with the mera's GTS donk? hmmm...!
Obviously I'm only joking about that VIN comment above..! I'm inclined to say the VIN is what it is and trying to work out the number of cars based on the assumption of a sequential VIN range seems trivial. It's clear that one of us is going to need to get on the inside and debunk a few myths... I'm on the P web looking at options, I do note there is a Motorsport Manager position going in Italy... I should clarify that my GT4 is within the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232 range. |
Was that with a remap Brad, or still standard?
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(
Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good. I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw. First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin: I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet. Would love to hear more of your thoughts. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(
Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good. I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw. First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin: I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet. |
Brad
That's very impressive power increase figures from a naturally aspirated engine. I bet its taken the sound and feel to another level as well. |
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13415747)
Hmm.. My car is on the Theben, but my VIN is in the WP0ZZZ98ZGK1899xx range...
Matches a GT4 so pretty sure it is not a Panamera! :D |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13417810)
Oops, checked again- apologies, that VIN range is on the THEBEN too :thumbup:
Matches a GT4 so pretty sure it is not a Panamera! :D This morning I read an article in the paper suggesting that 175 GT4's in Australia is the final number. Unsure what the true the source of information was but that might line up with the speculation around what's landed and coming. |
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13415694)
haha, stalk away champ! if you come close to the VIN on my Mazda then let it be known I'll be doubling security! You are correct on GT4 VIN range.
GT4 still not quite at Toyota Corolla numbers but let's give it time..! :p I assume in the back of our minds at some stage we've probably all speculated a final number for the 981 GT4? Are we calling it a nice round 1000 x GT4s in AUS by the end of the year? :) I'll eat my undies if my local used car yard has one on the lot with a "low km" sign on it...!. 1000 Aussie GT4 might be pushing it!!! ;) Especially given that best guesses (and I do say guesses) put the revised worldwide production around the 5500 mark. Given that 143 cars have been shipped and production running to August, another couple of bumper months like June could see more than 200 Aussie GT4s total. But I reckon it will taper off a bit so should be less than that... only Porsche knows.
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13415694)
It would seem that a few more cars nationwide will impact things like club day attendance, spare parts, detailing and paint protection, dealership technical experience, and the elephant in the room being resale
Originally Posted by 76Vintage
(Post 13415694)
My thinking was a customer had backed out of a deal, remained on the books until a replacement customer came along. If it had not reached the lock out date then configuration was able to tuned to personal taste. Am I on the right track there? All positive for the dealer as they allocation and landed the sale.
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More importantly it makes the GT4 much more attractive to aftermarket suppliers to create specific GT4 wheel fitments, exhausts, remaps, roll cages etc
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Originally Posted by IMOA
(Post 13417946)
More importantly it makes the GT4 much more attractive to aftermarket suppliers to create specific GT4 wheel fitments, exhausts, remaps, roll cages etc
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I got my car back from its PP wrap today, plus I also put ClearPlex on my windscreen again for full protection. Very happy with the results.
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13417922)
something like 53 track ready GT4s delivered or en route to Melbourne, that should make it easy enough to rally a small group of 8-10 like James88 suggested for a morning drive.
As a matter of fact I'm getting together for a drive and breaky with some friends this Sunday, we currently have my GT4, Cayman GTS, Audi R8, 3LCarrera, Suby WRX, a couple more might turn up as well. 2 or 3 more cars would be welcome if anyone is interested. Let me know if anyone would like to join in. Meet at 8am in Mt Martha, I'll pm address on request. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13418540)
Early morning drive sounds good, I really enjoy driving through the really tight twisty bits.
As a matter of fact I'm getting together for a drive and breaky with some friends this Sunday, we currently have my GT4, Cayman GTS, Audi R8, 3LCarrera, Suby WRX, a couple more might turn up as well. 2 or 3 more cars would be welcome if anyone is interested. Let me know if anyone would like to join in. Meet at 8am in Mt Martha, I'll pm address on request. Enjoy the drive in your new car. I'll write another post on the headers and tune. |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13417554)
Brad
That's very impressive power increase figures from a naturally aspirated engine. I bet its taken the sound and feel to another level as well.
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13417402)
Well that answers that. Time to search the back of the couch for the required $$$
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13417290)
That's a nice gain, especially in the mid range. What are your thoughts on the sound?
Would love to hear more of your thoughts.
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13415802)
Was that with a remap Brad, or still standard?
In the next post I'll write a more detailed summary of my thoughts. |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13418549)
Would be good to do more of these drives, its difficult to drum up enthusiasm in Hobart, but we do get the occasional drive day in.
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Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13417922)
Would Melb folks here be interested in that? Porsche GT cars are made for the track!
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FWIW - I know of a bunch of GT4 guys who have entered the Bathurst Sprint in Novemeber (including me). I'm also 95% in for Targa High Country (either just the tour or maybe GT Sports) as well.
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Ok, so my thoughts on the Cargraphics headers and tune from Fitzgerald Racing (Evolve sister company).
To put it very briefly, almost perfect. I'll get to the almost part, but this is a fantastic mod for the GT4. I still don't have the electronic dyno pic, so I just took a photo of the paper one so people can get a clearer picture of what these changes have done (apologies for potato quality). Attachment 1355892 So, bottom line is stock power curve, next one up is headers only, and next one up is headers and tune. Whilst the headers alone did flatten out the curve somewhat, the headers and tune has completely eliminated that mid range dip. You'll also notice that there is quite a lot of white space between H+T vs stock. You immediately feel this on the road. Whereas the stock car feels like its strangled down low, the car now just pulls and pulls all the way through the rev range. You might think that a mod like this would make a car less civilised and harder to live with day to day - the complete opposite is the truth. Because you are not navigating up and down the mid torque dip (which you do constantly in street driving) the car is extremely easy and comfortable to idle along slowly. I even find myself running in a higher gear than previously when driving slowly as I dont have to keep the revs super high to avoid this "chokey" range. So, some might be concerned that its all too tame. No fear of that. Plant the foot and it absolutely screams towards redline. It actually reminds me a little of the pull of my old C63. Of course it doesn't have anywhere near that amount of torque, but because you don't have the traction issues of the C63, it actually feels like you are applying similar levels of torque to the road. I'm probably overstating it there as I'm sure if you drove them back to back it wouldn't be as impressive, but it is an amazing feeling nonetheless. What about the sound? Its really hard to estimate how much louder the car is now at full noise. My best guess is somewhere between 25 and 50%, but that is purely a guess. The good news again is that you have choices. With the sports exhaust button off, you can rev through the range and it doesn't sound significantly different to stock. Reasonably civilised, but still a bit noisy if you have the right foot into the carpet. Sports exhaust button on, and just taking it easy and again, the car is a bit noisy but not over the top. WOT in the high rev ranges, however, and it sounds like a motorsports car. It has a really rich sound (not at all spoilt compared to the stock sound), which really resonates under overpasses and bridges. You'll like it. One thing that I didn't really understand before this mod was the claims by some tuning houses about the gains to be had by replacing the stock exhaust/mufflers with their own. If you have sports or race headers I totally get it now, and here we get to the 'almost' part of 'almost perfect' that I mentioned at the beginning. The stock exhaust, even with the sports exhaust button activated, does not actually keep the valve open all the time. It opens it according to the current rpms and throttle position (and maybe other factors?). So whats the problem then? Well because you have so much more exhaust flow due to the headers and tune, when the exhaust valve opens it feels a little like popping a cork. At around 4k rpms with only moderate throttle the exhaust valve opens and you get a blurt from the exhaust and the car literally takes off, there is so much latent power being restricted by the valve. You dont get this at WOT as the valve opens earlier, but at part throttle you get it, which is a little bit of a niggle for me, as at part throttle you want things to be smooth, not 'twitchy' as you navigate forwards and backwards over the 4k rpm range. I have discussed this with the tuner, and they are going to look into a change that just keeps the valves open all the time with the sports exhaust button on. I think this will be the perfect solution, as you can still have the car tame if you want by switching the button off. In any case, I'm confident they will sort this out. For some it may not be a problem, but for me this car is so close to perfect that it would be a shame not to address this little niggle. In short a magnificent addition to an already amazing car. Happy to try and answer any questions people might have. |
So the obvious question is, what is the ball cost for what you've done?
Also can you reflash it yourself if the dealer wipes it with a software update, or do you have to take the car back? |
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BTW - applied some decals I bought online (Porsche on the wing as well).
Attachment 1355902 I think the design is right, but a light grey or maybe a silver will look better. I kind of knew once they arrived that they would be too white, but decided to try them anyway. :D |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13418566)
So the obvious question is, what is the ball cost for what you've done?
Also can you reflash it yourself if the dealer wipes it with a software update, or do you have to take the car back? |
Thanks for the write up on the mods Brad. Seems like a really impressive change to make.
Pity we couldn't catch up. Next time you are in Melbourne yell out. Cheers Chris |
Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time. I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after? |
Great writeup mate, the headers and tune looks like it is definitely on the cards.
Any drone coming from the new headers at any speed/cruising? |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13418650)
Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time. I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after? |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13418563)
Ok, so my thoughts on the Cargraphics headers and tune from Fitzgerald Racing (Evolve sister company).
To put it very briefly, almost perfect. I'll get to the almost part, but this is a fantastic mod for the GT4. I still don't have the electronic dyno pic, so I just took a photo of the paper one so people can get a clearer picture of what these changes have done (apologies for potato quality). https://i.imgur.com/JaFhXvl.jpg So, bottom line is stock power curve, next one up is headers only, and next one up is headers and tune. Whilst the headers alone did flatten out the curve somewhat, the headers and tune has completely eliminated that mid range dip. You'll also notice that there is quite a lot of white space between H+T vs stock. You immediately feel this on the road. Whereas the stock car feels like its strangled down low, the car now just pulls and pulls all the way through the rev range. You might think that a mod like this would make a car less civilised and harder to live with day to day - the complete opposite is the truth. Because you are not navigating up and down the mid torque dip (which you do constantly in street driving) the car is extremely easy and comfortable to idle along slowly. I even find myself running in a higher gear than previously when driving slowly as I dont have to keep the revs super high to avoid this "chokey" range. So, some might be concerned that its all too tame. No fear of that. Plant the foot and it absolutely screams towards redline. It actually reminds me a little of the pull of my old C63. Of course it doesn't have anywhere near that amount of torque, but because you don't have the traction issues of the C63, it actually feels like you are applying similar levels of torque to the road. I'm probably overstating it there as I'm sure if you drove them back to back it wouldn't be as impressive, but it is an amazing feeling nonetheless. What about the sound? Its really hard to estimate how much louder the car is now at full noise. My best guess is somewhere between 25 and 50%, but that is purely a guess. The good news again is that you have choices. With the sports exhaust button off, you can rev through the range and it doesn't sound significantly different to stock. Reasonably civilised, but still a bit noisy if you have the right foot into the carpet. Sports exhaust button on, and just taking it easy and again, the car is a bit noisy but not over the top. WOT in the high rev ranges, however, and it sounds like a motorsports car. It has a really rich sound (not at all spoilt compared to the stock sound), which really resonates under overpasses and bridges. You'll like it. One thing that I didn't really understand before this mod was the claims by some tuning houses about the gains to be had by replacing the stock exhaust/mufflers with their own. If you have sports or race headers I totally get it now, and here we get to the 'almost' part of 'almost perfect' that I mentioned at the beginning. The stock exhaust, even with the sports exhaust button activated, does not actually keep the valve open all the time. It opens it according to the current rpms and throttle position (and maybe other factors?). So whats the problem then? Well because you have so much more exhaust flow due to the headers and tune, when the exhaust valve opens it feels a little like popping a cork. At around 4k rpms with only moderate throttle the exhaust valve opens and you get a blurt from the exhaust and the car literally takes off, there is so much latent power being restricted by the valve. You dont get this at WOT as the valve opens earlier, but at part throttle you get it, which is a little bit of a niggle for me, as at part throttle you want things to be smooth, not 'twitchy' as you navigate forwards and backwards over the 4k rpm range. I have discussed this with the tuner, and they are going to look into a change that just keeps the valves open all the time with the sports exhaust button on. I think this will be the perfect solution, as you can still have the car tame if you want by switching the button off. In any case, I'm confident they will sort this out. For some it may not be a problem, but for me this car is so close to perfect that it would be a shame not to address this little niggle. In short a magnificent addition to an already amazing car. Happy to try and answer any questions people might have. Nice delta on the dyno graph. I really like how the 4,800rpm dip is smoothed out. Is this an Evolve Technik package? or is it a headers/tune done by Fitzgerald's in house? How much all up was it fitted? |
So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.
Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline......... |
Wow!!!!- great results indeed. I have my headers going on next week and also a valveless exhaust. Do you think the valveless exhaust would remedy the annoyance you have when the valves open?? I figured I would always hit the exhaust button so made sense to always have it on
Also - was this cattless?? |
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13421223)
So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.
Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline......... |
Had a great 1st drive day, its an amazing car that's for sure, power is plenty for me and its really lots of fun at any speed.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a7d326e888.jpg This is a genuine original CS in pristine condition, probably worth in excess of 1/2 Mill$. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9540a77073.jpg |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13418650)
Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time. I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after?
Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13419950)
Great writeup mate, the headers and tune looks like it is definitely on the cards.
Any drone coming from the new headers at any speed/cruising?
Originally Posted by Quack
(Post 13421175)
Nice delta on the dyno graph. I really like how the 4,800rpm dip is smoothed out. Is this an Evolve Technik package? or is it a headers/tune done by Fitzgerald's in house? How much all up was it fitted?
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13421223)
So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.
Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline......... Firstly the chart is in kw, not hp. In the mid range, the 30kw difference translates to roughly 40hp. This is a massive gain in exactly the area I was looking for. If you read my comments below, I was not in any way looking for a peak gain, but got one of 22.5kw (30 hp). I have no complaints with this outcome, in actual fact this has far exceeded my expectations. With regards to warranty, please refer to Australian consumer law. There is no such thing as voiding a warranty from modifications. In this case of a disputed claim, the burden of proof is on the manufacturer to prove that any modification has caused the damage, if they cannot, they must honour the claim. I dont see how driving training will fill the torque dip that was annoying me on my street driving? I have zero interest in lap times or track prowess. If you have driven a GT4 you would know what I am talking about and why I would want to address it. With respect to the dynos, they were done on different days as the work was done across multiple days. At this point I should include a smarmy wink or sequence of dots, but I don't really feel comfortable playing down at the level you are lurking.
Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
(Post 13421270)
Wow!!!!- great results indeed. I have my headers going on next week and also a valveless exhaust. Do you think the valveless exhaust would remedy the annoyance you have when the valves open?? I figured I would always hit the exhaust button so made sense to always have it on
Also - was this cattless?? My headers are the sports headers with 200 Cell cats. |
I am not trying to make you feel bad, and I know the chart is in kw - I calculated the power out as HP (e.g. 1kW is 0.746HP). Yes you have managed to dial out the dip before variocam plus is fully active (did you ask your tuner to explain why that dip exists? do you know why that dip is produced by all NA Porsche engines? do you know how and why variocam plus works?). The actual real power gain is an integral of the area under the torque curve, you can't cant just cherry pick the bits you like (power is directly proportional to torque and rpm and thus its the area under the torque Vs rpm curve that defines the overall benefit).
The peak power is in effect a transient blip - for it to be more than that the whole curve has to lift in line with the peak - not locally lift. Moreover you need to see this in the context of GT4 dyno runs which vary from ~ 300rwhp to 320rwhp (on MAHA dynos that measure run down losses). Anyhow if you're happy, I'm happy :) - however, I (and many others) would question the loss of warranty for what is in essence a relatively minor gain - good luck with Australian consumer law - this is what will happen if your engine goes bang. Porsche will say you modified the car outside of specification by changing key components including the ECU (and they will be correct), they will use these posts to prove you modified your car and you will attempt to prove some form of defect and will lose. Its been tried many times. For reference I hold two CAMS I class licences - honestly, if you had put the money into high performance driver training you would have gained a far greater benefit. Believe it or not this is good advice and is well meant :) Apologies in advance for my curt delivery. |
Except no amount of driver training is going to help improve the sound.
Which is the main reason I'm looking at getting headers! |
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13422787)
I am not trying to make you feel bad, and I know the chart is in kw - I calculated the power out as HP (e.g. 1kW is 0.746HP).
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13422787)
Yes you have managed to dial out the dip before variocam plus is fully active (did you ask your tuner to explain why that dip exists? do you know why that dip is produced by all NA Porsche engines? do you know how and why variocam plus works?). The actual real power gain is an integral of the area under the torque curve, you can't cant just cherry pick the bits you like (power is directly proportional to torque and rpm and thus its the area under the torque Vs rpm curve that defines the overall benefit).
The peak power is in effect a transient blip - for it to be more than that the whole curve has to lift in line with the peak - not locally lift. Moreover you need to see this in the context of GT4 dyno runs which vary from ~ 300rwhp to 320rwhp (on MAHA dynos that measure run down losses). What I was looking to do was to remove the dip that takes place in the mid range, and have achieved this (with no sacrifice anywhere else in the range). Again if you have driven a GT4 you would understand why. I have driven many different Porsches and none have suffered to the extent that the GT4 does in this area. IMO 8.5k is a small investment to achieve this, for others it may not be.
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13422787)
Anyhow if you're happy, I'm happy :) - however, I (and many others) would question the loss of warranty for what is in essence a relatively minor gain - good luck with Australian consumer law - this is what will happen if your engine goes bang. Porsche will say you modified the car outside of specification by changing key components including the ECU (and they will be correct), they will use these posts to prove you modified your car and you will attempt to prove some form of defect and will lose. Its been tried many times.
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13422787)
For reference I hold two CAMS I class licences - honestly, if you had put the money into high performance driver training you would have gained a far greater benefit.
Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13422787)
Believe it or not this is good advice and is well meant :) Apologies in advance for my curt delivery.
Some advice back to you, when you write something down in an internet forum try to think of how you would feel if you read what you put down in 10 years time. If it makes you cringe, don't post it. |
I am not concerned about warranty when I mod which is going to be very similar These mods are really not too extreme and the engine coming from the Carrera S is pretty stout. Enjoy the heck out of it. My Dealership is actually doing my mods and mine are all coming from FVD which is as close to Porsche as you come.
If some one is against mods just do not read these threads- quite simple. There are threads I do not read nor participate because not inteested |
Whats the go with the GPS in our cars, they're are not that good, I used it twice and both times it took me off direct route. Ran my phones google maps at the same time which was reliable without any issues.
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Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.
I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c32266cec1.png |
[QUOTE=Snowman.;13423991]Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.
I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways. QUOTE] Thanks Andrew, what a great idea, where did you get it from? |
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13422670)
Cost as mentioned below was 8.5k all in (headers, ceramic coating, tune, fitment and dyno work). Evolve and Fitzgeralds are essentially the same company (two shops are located next to each other and have common ownership and employees), just that Fitzgerald does all their Porsche work and Evolve does the rest. Headers are Cargraphic sports headers, coating done by High Performance Coatings, tune is from PP Performance (Evolve / Fitzgeralds are local distributors of PP).
Thanks for that. 8.5K is pretty reasonable for the gains. I did leave a message with Fitzgeralds to call me back about zorst and tune, but they never got back to me. I will keep them in mind. So many different options!!!! |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13423991)
Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.
I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c32266cec1.png |
This is a genuine original CS in pristine condition, probably worth in excess of 1/2 Mill$.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9540a77073.jpg[/QUOTE] It's great to see one of these immaculate examples getting driven!! :bowdown: |
Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13426047)
I picked one up from a phone shop at Southland. I knew what I was looking for and just went in to all the shops until I found one that had it. From memory it was an Optus shop but I have seen them around in many of them.
[/QUOTE]It's great to see one of these immaculate examples getting driven!! :bowdown:[/QUOTE] Yep and and he sure knows how to drive it. |
So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?
I am a little eager. |
Might be worth a call to your dealer as I think that would indicate its been handed over by Patricks who do all the customs and compliance stuff. Close now by the sounds of things.... :)
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Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13426554)
So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?
I am a little eager. |
Originally Posted by cp993
(Post 13426564)
Might be worth a call to your dealer as I think that would indicate its been handed over by Patricks who do all the customs and compliance stuff. Close now by the sounds of things.... :)
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13426616)
Nothing wrong with eager! :D Obviously it varies but as little as 2 days from past experience... from what I understand, the dealers do not know anything about customs until clearance is completed and transport to them is booked. GL
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Chris I remember when our boats arrived and there was a strike on - can't remember if it was at Patricks or a AQIS - but it was torture!!
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Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13422851)
1 kw is in fact 1.34 hp - you got the conversion inverted.
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13422851)
What I was looking to do was to remove the dip that takes place in the mid range, and have achieved this (with no sacrifice anywhere else in the range). Again if you have driven a GT4 you would understand why. I have driven many different Porsches and none have suffered to the extent that the GT4 does in this area. IMO 8.5k is a small investment to achieve this, for others it may not be.
Originally Posted by Bardman
(Post 13422851)
Its not good advice because it does not actually address my issue, which you would know if you took the time to read what I wrote properly. It was also not curt delivery, but words delivered with knowing winks - an attempt to big note yourself at someone else's expense.
I can understand why you feel "the dip" is a problem, however most modern turbo charged "performance cars" have flat torque curves from low- through to mid-range - which yield very linear HP delivery. It takes a lot away from the driving experience e.g. the feel is similar whether you drive a Golf R, Focus RS, AMG or M3 (any difference being power/weight). It begs a very real question, if you're not interested in track days or performance driving and you want mid-range torque, or feel its a problem, why didn't you simply buy a 991 turbo or M3/M4/AMG? I have a GTS and the "the dip" doesn't hinder day to day driving at all, at least for me. |
I am more than happy with my 3.8, both performance and sound wise, as such she will likely stay standard, as God intended lol. As a daily and non track car I think it's just right for me
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Originally Posted by Snowman.
(Post 13426650)
Chris I remember when our boats arrived and there was a strike on - can't remember if it was at Patricks or a AQIS - but it was torture!!
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Originally Posted by randr
(Post 13426671)
I have a GTS and the "the dip" doesn't hinder day to day driving at all, at least for me.
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Originally Posted by Charliekay
(Post 13426554)
So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?
I am a little eager. |
Originally Posted by NBTBRV8
(Post 13426748)
7-8 days to get to your dealer from landing if all goes well. Then the speed of your dealer's PDI, which will be ~4 days.
:cheers: |
I inquired about these wing extensions, lucky I was sitting down when I saw the price on a replied email from Scuderia car parts in the UK.
£880.00 = $1516 AUD Ouch, just for 2 little add on brackets. I reckon some of these suppliers must think we're made of money. I just thought I would have a better unobstructed rear view but at that price I'm happy to be looking at my spoiler. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07789c97b0.jpg |
Originally Posted by James88
(Post 13434153)
I inquired about these wing extensions, lucky I was sitting down when I saw the price on a replied email.
£880.00 = $1516 AUD Ouch, just for 2 little add on brackets. I reckon some of these suppliers must think we're made of money. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07789c97b0.jpg |
Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
(Post 13434158)
Men would pay a hell of a lot more for a penus extender so may be that is how they are looking at it :D
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Has anyone else in Aus tried this?
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9318...l#post13434624 Prior to my headers/tune mod I tried this and didn't really notice any difference. I am somewhat puzzled by this as various US based people have suggested in makes a big change for them. Is there a difference with our cars that changes the behaviour? We have all the some vacuum hosing so I'm surprised that making this change had no material effect. Thoughts? |
Went to Porsche Centre Brighton this morning to fill out some paperwork for my car (hopefully should pick it up before the end of the month) and spent ages chatting with Richard, Phil, and Michael. Great guys.
Got a chance to see a GT4 in the flesh for the first time. GT4s look better in real life than in the pictures I've seen of them, if that's possible - small, low, and wide. It really is a car that has no bad viewing angles and great presence :D Anyhow, if anyone on the forum is picking up their GT Silver GT4 from PCB in the coming days, here's a photo of it. Kudos on going for the LWBS and Clubsport pack! Looks awesome :burnout: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2fea5a9074.jpg Had a good look at a Macan Turbo too. Looks like that'll be the next car I get when I replace my MB A45 AMG! They offered me a test drive, but I thought test driving one and then having to wait 12-18 months to get one would be torture. |
Originally Posted by DR1VEN
(Post 13406799)
A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while:
SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc NSW- White with GT2 seats, SC- AUD235,000 + orc <<< "new off transporter" VIC- Yellow- AUD239,888 + orc QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD239,990 + orc NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD240,000 + orc Good luck all with sales- looks like 150 Aussie GT4 now delivered or on the water with the latest GT4 loaded on 5/7. Can't wait to see more on the street. |
I have a source that did a bit of digging and mentioned the total number all up delivered to Australia and New Zealand would stand at 283 cars. Not sure what the split is between the two regions but that does include cars delivered in 2015, 2016 to date, cars on the water and the remaining cars queued or currently in production.
Having also seen the advert for the NSW car that was delivered on a transporter - I assume the advert is legitimate but the photos are not as they're widely available on Google image search and the interior was of a GT3 (last time I looked). Are you in the market for a cheap GT4 Dr1ven? :) |
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