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Bardman 09-01-2015 10:46 PM

Australian GT4s
 
I was wondering what information people have with respect to GT4s in Australia?

When I first ordered, I heard there were originally only 30 allocated to Australia and I was number 70 something on the list. I think due to the LWB issue I was bumped up the list, but I never heard confirmation of how many are coming in to the country.

I have an Agate Grey one arriving in a few weeks (in Melbourne). Who else is getting one? With what specs and when does it arrive?

cp993 09-02-2015 12:57 AM

Hi, I sent you a PM last week but the message system doesn't seem to alert so you probably haven't seen it.
I was also told 30 cars which may have become 32 ish but not much more than that I believe. I originally ordered with LWB's but after sitting in my friends RS4.0 found they didn't suit me so changed to 18ways. had I done that at the start I probably would have got mine sooner. At this stage its an October build so probably December delivery.
PM me and i will give you my contact details.
Cheers
Chris

IMOA 09-02-2015 01:45 AM

I'm a sapphire blue with the LWB's in Sydney. Tried out the seats in an RS at goodwood and I was very happy with them. Delivery should be in November but the service I've received so far is somewhere between mediocre and pisspoor so I'm not exactly sure when it's coming.

Snowman. 09-02-2015 01:51 AM

I'm sapphire blue in Melbourne (Club Sport pack). Like Chris mine is due for an October build.

I'd heard originally the allocation was 10 per dealership which makes it a lot more than 30 in total.

Presuming you other guys aren't on PFA already (Bardman + IMOA), plus the 2 other mates I know with orders that makes 7 known orders already which suggests the "30 only" is unlikely.

One of my mates was #1 apparently and by all accounts his ship docked on the weekend so we should see it soon - but his was the only one we knew of that wasn't slated for an October build.

cp993 09-02-2015 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 12557982)
I'm a sapphire blue with the LWB's in Sydney. Tried out the seats in an RS at goodwood and I was very happy with them. Delivery should be in November but the service I've received so far is somewhere between mediocre and pisspoor so I'm not exactly sure when it's coming.

I think part of the problem is nobody really knows very much so they don't quite know what to say to us. Been reading that most of the northern hemisphere cars seem to be several weeks earlier than promised of late which might mean ours are produced a bit earlier than we have been told as well... I have stopped asking now and are just waiting til they tell me its made and on its way :cheers:

Cheers
Chris

Bardman 09-02-2015 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12557901)
Hi, I sent you a PM last week but the message system doesn't seem to alert so you probably haven't seen it.
I was also told 30 cars which may have become 32 ish but not much more than that I believe. I originally ordered with LWB's but after sitting in my friends RS4.0 found they didn't suit me so changed to 18ways. had I done that at the start I probably would have got mine sooner. At this stage its an October build so probably December delivery.
PM me and i will give you my contact details.
Cheers
Chris

Ok, great, I'll send you a PM.


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 12557986)
I'm sapphire blue in Melbourne (Club Sport pack). Like Chris mine is due for an October build.

I'd heard originally the allocation was 10 per dealership which makes it a lot more than 30 in total.

Presuming you other guys aren't on PFA already (Bardman + IMOA), plus the 2 other mates I know with orders that makes 7 known orders already which suggests the "30 only" is unlikely.

One of my mates was #1 apparently and by all accounts his ship docked on the weekend so we should see it soon - but his was the only one we knew of that wasn't slated for an October build.

What is PFA? I agree there have to be more than 30, otherwise I dont think I would have gotten a car.


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12558076)
I think part of the problem is nobody really knows very much so they don't quite know what to say to us. Been reading that most of the northern hemisphere cars seem to be several weeks earlier than promised of late which might mean ours are produced a bit earlier than we have been told as well... I have stopped asking now and are just waiting til they tell me its made and on its way :cheers:

Cheers
Chris

I'm a bit surprised that you dont have firm dates yet. I was quoted a date some time ago, and its pretty much coming in exactly when they said. I'm coming through Porsche Centre Brighton, which is a pretty small dealer and I find smaller dealers are in general better for service. I had a poor experience with Melbourne many years ago, so would not be that surprised if they are not that helpful.

Snowman. 09-02-2015 04:56 AM

Sorry - PFA = http://porscheforum.com.au/

I'm also through Brighton. At this stage I just know I have an Oct build but they don't know an exact delivery yet given the Xmas shipping period issues.

That said I haven't spoken to Richard for a month or so - might be time to go in for a coffee and an update.

cp993 09-02-2015 05:21 AM

I couldn't get anyone at Brighton to show any interest in selling me a car. 3 times I went there and nobody was interested. Even when I pulled up in my 993 C2S in front of 3 sales people. They just kept talking amongst themselves so after 20 minutes I left. Was close to writing to the dealer principle but never bothered in the end.....

So we should all get together and have a coffee and chat at some stage. Hoping to get a sneak peek of one over the weekend so if it comes to pass perhaps we could meet at PCM...
Cheers
Chris

roders 09-02-2015 05:56 AM

Hi,
Over here in Perth with a confirmed order for the 2nd delivery to PCP.
Sapphire Blue with LWB :)

cp993 09-02-2015 05:58 AM

When was yours due to arrive Rod?

roders 09-02-2015 09:51 AM

Happy Days.....
Just got back from night at PCP and looks like I got me a build week :)
WA got 1x of the first allocations so there is one arriving for delivery this week.
Then a gap to build week 44 for me.....with LWB's!!!
Going to be a happy xmas. https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/burnout.gif

cp993 09-02-2015 07:00 PM

Sensational news Rod. Thats terrific. Hope I get some more clarity soon too. So you will get to see one this week, thats awesome. I am hoping we get the same here. if not this week then next i think...

GAZZ 09-18-2015 04:00 AM

Hello All!
Not a Lurker anymore. Running in my new Carmine Red GT4.


Living the dream...

cp993 09-18-2015 04:02 AM

Hi Gazz, a very big congratulations. I believe yours may have been Number 1 delivery so a bit of history that no one can take away. Carmine would look great, well done :)

Chris

roders 09-18-2015 04:16 AM

Hi Gazz,

Big congrats, looks like its going to be a nice fine weekend this weekend too ;)
GEEETEE4 :)

GAZZ 09-18-2015 04:27 AM

Yes its number 1 in Australia. How cool is that. :thumbsup:


I ordered the car and put down a deposit about a year ago. The wait was ok because the 987.2 and work kept me busy!

Bardman 09-18-2015 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 12601218)
Yes its number 1 in Australia. How cool is that. :thumbsup:


I ordered the car and put down a deposit about a year ago. The wait was ok because the 987.2 and work kept me busy!

Dammit! Mine arrived last week so I could have been number 1! I have been on holidays so am only picking it up on Monday. I have the whole week off though so will make up for lost time. Where are you based?

GAZZ 09-18-2015 06:43 AM

Sunny Perth.

Bardman 09-18-2015 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 12601269)
Sunny Perth.

Nice. I'm in Perth now on holidays, flying back (to Melbourne) tomorrow. Had a great time here and in the south west.

Any photos of your car?

GAZZ 09-18-2015 09:51 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f3f1270b37.jpg

987.2 and GT4

V-GT400 09-18-2015 10:21 AM

I have an order in with Porsche Centre Melbourne and my order locked today for October build and delivery December or January approx. Mine was the 10th order they took but I think they have been accepting orders since then "subject to availability".

My spec:
White with Platinum Wheels
Full Bucket Seats
Sport Chrono with Track Precision App
64 Litre tank
Anthracite Aluminium Dash Trim
Auto Dimming Mirrors
Bi-Xenon with PDL

The PCA Press GT4 (Sapphire Blue with Black Wheels) is there now and will be at the PCV 40th Anniversary function this Sunday.

Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa.

IMOA 09-18-2015 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12601523)
Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa.

As someone who got his first taste of Motorsport as a three year old being taken to races in Auckland to see the local up and coming gun driver (he used to build his cars at a local servo) and then properly growing my love of Motorsport in the mid eighties watching him dominate in the JPS 635CSI it's actually a bit exciting that we'll be driving the same car.

And congrats to rodders, it's about time we got an Australian car

GAZZ 09-18-2015 01:14 PM

Spoke to Jim a few weeks ago at the Perth Targa West.
We did the same sprint that day. I got a somewhat better time in my 2010 Manual Cayman S, him in 2013 PDK Cayman S.

Maverick1 09-18-2015 04:42 PM

I have a question for all you Australian gents.
Are all you guys buying Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lambos Gazillionairs?
When a 911 Turbo cab costs a half million dollars, it seems like owning a Porsche or other high end sports car would be out of the question for most regular Australian folks.
Dare I ask the price of a lowly Honda Civic??
P.S. that Carmine Red GT4 looks amazing.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...507577b58c.jpg

V-GT400 09-18-2015 07:01 PM

Hi Maverick 1.

Australia has a Luxury Car Tax that kicks in for cars over $61,884.00. For fuel-efficient "green" cars the LCT Threshold is $75,375.00. Under that figure cars are competitively priced. However over that figure we pay 33% LCT. There is also 10% GST and 5% import duty so the prices get scary very quickly.

If you think we are expensive, check out Singapore. It is crazy there. A VW Golf in Singapore costs as much as a Boxster S does here.

V-GT400 09-18-2015 07:10 PM

Is anyone interested in a Group Buy of Track Wheels for Australian owners of GT4? I am thinking of something like Rays TE37. Other suggestions welcome but we would need to agree on one specific wheel that can be obtained in the correct size and offset.
If there is interest from Australian owners I will start a separate thread.

Snowman. 09-18-2015 08:27 PM

I'll be interested in track wheels. I'm most likely going to look at 19's to run slicks however.

Sounds like you'll be getting yours the same time as me and Chris (cp993).

V-GT400 09-18-2015 08:39 PM

Hi Snowman
Thanks for responding. Lets see how many interested parties we have and go from there. I am putting out some feelers for suppliers that can deliver a suitable wheel now. Maybe something exciting will pop up.
It needs to be strong, light and reasonably priced so if it gets damaged it can be replaced without costing a bomb.

GAZZ 09-18-2015 09:00 PM

Looking to solve my wheel issue as well.
Trouble is all tyres for 19 or 20" wheels are going to be slower than the 18" super soft R spec I was running on the 987.2. Even Trofeo R or slicks will be slower.

cp993 09-18-2015 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12601523)
I have an order in with Porsche Centre Melbourne and my order locked today for October build and delivery December or January approx. Mine was the 10th order they took but I think they have been accepting orders since then "subject to availability".

My spec:
White with Platinum Wheels
Full Bucket Seats
Sport Chrono with Track Precision App
64 Litre tank
Anthracite Aluminium Dash Trim
Auto Dimming Mirrors
Bi-Xenon with PDL

The PCA Press GT4 (Sapphire Blue with Black Wheels) is there now and will be at the PCV 40th Anniversary function this Sunday.

Jim Richards got his White GT4 last week and is prepping it now in Shannons livery for Targa.

Funny I was to,d I was number 10 at PCM too :)
I think quite a few of us will have cars arriving at the same time by the sounds of it...

V-GT400 09-18-2015 09:06 PM

Thanks Gazz
What are these Super Soft R Spec tyres? Brand etc?
Maybe BBS Motorsport wheels would be suitable because they can be built to order.
Do you have standard red brakes or ceramic yellow brakes?

V-GT400 09-18-2015 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12603372)
Funny I was to,d I was number 10 at PCM too :)
I think quite a few of us will have cars arriving at the same time by the sounds of it...

Maybe there are lots of Number 10's then.;)
I suspect that Porsche might build the Australian spec cars in batches to make production easier. They are all made at the Osnabruck factory (old Karmann factory now owned by VW). This is where all Caymans are produced and where half the Boxster production is done. The other half of Boxsters are made at Stuttgart.

cp993 09-18-2015 09:15 PM

Yes I think you might be right, we all might be number 10 lol

V-GT400 09-18-2015 09:19 PM

That is called, "playing your cards close to your chest".
Are you going to the 40th Anniversary function at Rochford tomorrow?

GAZZ 09-18-2015 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12603374)
Thanks Gazz
What are these Super Soft R Spec tyres? Brand etc?
Maybe BBS Motorsport wheels would be suitable because they can be built to order.
Do you have standard red brakes or ceramic yellow brakes?

I got steel brakes this time so I can at least try to get 18 or 19s' on. Had ceramic before.

I started a thread about this but nobody replied :( ;

I tried some Yokohama 18" Advan rims with large barrel intended for 991s'. These do fit over the calipers, but hit the rear suspension toe arms. These 991 rims are a special shape.
I tried some other regular Yokohama 18" rims with spacers (19 or 21mm)and they clear the toe arms, yay. But don't fit over the calipers properly.
So looking to try the 991 rims with spacers next at the shop. Or maybe different offset rims but with the big barrel this may be a big ask.
Not sure if the spacers will cause the tyres to have issues with the guards yet.

The tyres are Yoko A050. With these your 987 can easy out drive a GT3 if it does not have them. I was the first to run these (although pretty pricey) in the club, now most others do as well. They are super quick but as they are "time attack" tyres they are not suitable for continiuous lap running as they get hot after one lap.

Snowman. 09-18-2015 10:19 PM

My concern with running 18's with A050's on this car will be roll centers.

I used to have an R35 GT-R which came with 20's standard and it was actually quicker with 19" Dunlop Sports MAXX Race rubber than it was with 18" A050's as the roll centers were just to far out. Toyo do make an R comp (R888) is 19 and 20's but even though the feel better from the SOP they weren't as quick as the Dunlops either.

The Dunlops are one of the OEM options for the Cayman along with the Michelins - what did you get on your one GAZZ?

It's one of the reasons I was thinking of going slicks. Then you can run 19's but get a side wall to make the rolling diameters - and hence the roll centers as per factory design.

GAZZ 09-18-2015 10:43 PM

I had no issues on the 987.2, it worked perfect but yes these are somewhat smaller than the 20" on the GT4 and only slightly smaller than 987.2 OEMs.

Dunlop Sports MAXX Race??? Guess what? My GT4 car came with these (20")!!!! Has a tread wear of 80. Maybe you all will get them too.
For a road tyre they are really good actually, but are nothing compared to the grip of a proper R spec and no where near the A050s'.

Snowman. 09-18-2015 10:55 PM

As I said already - they don't have the overall grip of an A050 but you might find they are over a lap faster due to roll centers.

Also be aware when you put 18's with R Comps onto a car designed to run 20's it will look completely stupid like this....

(This was my R35 when we tested it with A050's)

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...393a8f7866.jpg

cp993 09-19-2015 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12603409)
That is called, "playing your cards close to your chest".
Are you going to the 40th Anniversary function at Rochford tomorrow?

Haha yes you are right. PCV day, no not going to get there unfortunately. Should be a good day though talking to a few people that are going. Something like over 200 cars expected...

cp993 09-19-2015 12:05 AM

Snowy, love the Nissan. What a weapon!
Arent you heading off on holiday this weekend?

Snowman. 09-19-2015 12:15 AM

Just about to head off now

cp993 09-19-2015 12:43 AM

When you get back, yell out and we will catch up for a coffee...

aussie jimmy 09-19-2015 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12558183)
I couldn't get anyone at Brighton to show any interest in selling me a car. 3 times I went there and nobody was interested. Even when I pulled up in my 993 C2S in front of 3 sales people. They just kept talking amongst themselves so after 20 minutes I left. Was close to writing to the dealer principle but never bothered in the end.....

Cheers
Chris

that is very unfortunate, chris.
a reflection of some of the current generation's work ethos/culture, seen much more frequently than previously. that is very sad, that a customer comes in with intent to spend over $200k, and they just let him walk away. i don't let anybody walk out of my workplace unspoken to. even for $5 sale. you just never really know who each customer really is and how much they are willing to part with.
maybe these guys sell too many cayennes that pay their wages.

roders 09-19-2015 12:03 PM

Hi guys

Anyone else planning on doing the Targa Tas 2016 Tour? Should be awesome being 25th anniversary.
Just booked our flight.... Now all I need is a GT4 :)

V-GT400 09-19-2015 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by roders (Post 12604449)
Hi guys

Anyone else planning on doing the Targa Tas 2016 Tour? Should be awesome being 25th anniversary.
Just booked our flight.... Now all I need is a GT4 :)

Thinking about it except not too keen on the 130kph speed limit monitored by the Rally Safe unit if you do not have a full roll cage. I understand the reasons for this but I am thinking it might be excruciating on the straights.

The Clubsport factory half cage does not comply with CAMS regulations as it needs an additional cross brace and the front cage to comply. That is if you want to run in the unrestricted speed category.

Thinking....thinking!!!

aussie jimmy 09-19-2015 08:14 PM

the straights won't be too long. 130km/h is plenty on the roads.
and if you are a newbie, it's a great way to learn the roads/etiquette.
i've only done track, but not any targa, as think it is very risky. touring would be a great place to start
on unfamiliar roads. all your cornering will be done at 50 - 100 anyways.

V-GT400 09-20-2015 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by aussie jimmy (Post 12605395)
the straights won't be too long. 130km/h is plenty on the roads.
and if you are a newbie, it's a great way to learn the roads/etiquette.
i've only done track, but not any targa, as think it is very risky. touring would be a great place to start
on unfamiliar roads. all your cornering will be done at 50 - 100 anyways.

Hi Jimmy

Thanks for your thoughts. I have done Targa Tasmania a number of times before in Nissan GT-R. Finished in top 10 a few times and 2nd Outright once so I probably have a different perspective on things. I am sure that lots of competitors will be happy with the 130kph limit. Just struggling with the concept myself.

aussie jimmy 09-20-2015 08:05 AM

ah ok - all good then.
sorry to preach to the converted! :to_order:

V-GT400 09-20-2015 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by aussie jimmy (Post 12606281)
ah ok - all good then.
sorry to preach to the converted! :to_order:

Not a problem at all Jimmy. I hope you have a great time there. There are some straights in Targa across the top of Cethana and on Mt Arrowsmith where you can see 280-300kph if your car can do it. Can be scary. I remember thinking "what the hell am I doing here" one time on Cethana during pouring rain at 260kph and the wipers starting to lift off the windscreen. Makes you think we must be all crazy.

V-GT400 09-20-2015 08:25 AM

For those that are interested I have found that Rays have the TE37 Ultra available in 11" x 20" ET 50 for the rear which is the exact factory fit. However the fronts are only available in 9" x 20" ET 45. This puts the wheel outside 22mm further out. I measured a GT4 today and I think this puts it a few mms outside the wheel arch. So it is a no go in current form. Rays would be smart to offer an 8.5" x 20" with the correct offset and they would get a lot of business. I am looking at whether the wheel can be finessed a little to make it fit.

Bardman 09-20-2015 09:02 AM

There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?

V-GT400 09-20-2015 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12606331)
There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?

I am investigating it. PCM have recommended an installer that uses the Premiumshield Elite product. The installer says it is better than the USA favourites of Suntek and Xpel. I have no idea so it would be good to hear from our USA friends who have actual experience with these products.

Seems like we need to watch out for the headlights though because products like Xpel will delaminate the lenses when removed.

GAZZ 09-20-2015 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12606331)
There is a lot of talk on these forums about people putting clear film on their cars. Is this a track only thing? Or a North American thing? In 20 years of car ownership I've never done this. Any of you guys planning on getting this done?

Getting mine done tomorrow.
Last car had it and saved a lot of damage. The side scoops will get a lot of damage from sand and small gravel chips.
Much less pulverizing on your car at the track if nobody overtakes you. -I try to never let that happen!

IMOA 09-20-2015 12:14 PM

In regards to wheels with the exchange rate where it is japan is an excellant option but I would strongly recommend tws over rays, they are more of a race team supplier as opposed to a consumer supplier, their wheels are lighter and they will do a short run with custom offsets. And, frankly, te37s are massively overrated.

V-GT400 09-20-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 12606645)
In regards to wheels with the exchange rate where it is japan is an excellant option but I would strongly recommend tws over rays, they are more of a race team supplier as opposed to a consumer supplier, their wheels are lighter and they will do a short run with custom offsets. And, frankly, te37s are massively overrated.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will investigate this brand. I looked at their website quickly and the Magnesium range looks amazing but very expensive. Not surprising if they are genuine magnesium and super light.

V-GT400 09-20-2015 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 12606628)
Getting mine done tomorrow.
Last car had it and saved a lot of damage. The side scoops will get a lot of damage from sand and small gravel chips.
Much less pulverizing on your car at the track if nobody overtakes you. -I try to never let that happen!

What material are you having applied Gazz?

cp993 09-20-2015 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12601221)
Dammit! Mine arrived last week so I could have been number 1! I have been on holidays so am only picking it up on Monday. I have the whole week off though so will make up for lost time. Where are you based?

Well Monday is here so good luck with picking up your car and enjoy. Looking forward to seeing it around.

Best wishes
Chris

Snowman. 09-20-2015 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12606193)
Hi Jimmy

Thanks for your thoughts. I have done Targa Tasmania a number of times before in Nissan GT-R. Finished in top 10 a few times and 2nd Outright once so I probably have a different perspective on things. I am sure that lots of competitors will be happy with the 130kph limit. Just struggling with the concept myself.

I did Targa a few times myself in GT-Rs - am thinking we should know each other!? (I did it 2009-2011)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...26247357_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...eec45dcb487203

V-GT400 09-20-2015 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 12607599)
I did Targa a few times myself in GT-Rs - am thinking we should know each other!? (I did it 2009-2011)

Probably we do. PM me if you like and we can chat off line.

cp993 09-20-2015 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12606346)
I am investigating it. PCM have recommended an installer that uses the Premiumshield Elite product. The installer says it is better than the USA favourites of Suntek and Xpel. I have no idea so it would be good to hear from our USA friends who have actual experience with these products.

Seems like we need to watch out for the headlights though because products like Xpel will delaminate the lenses when removed.

Thanks yes, i have been reading about the headlight issue too. Have a 2 friends that have just had their cars done by the guy you are referring to and both quite happy with the job. One on a 978.2 Cayman and the other a brand new Cayman GTS which was picked up last week and virtually driven straight to the installer in Knoxfield or Rowville I think it is....

I was also looking at getting the remainder of the car treated with Opticoat Plus as well.

C

IMOA 09-21-2015 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12607439)
Thanks for the suggestion. I will investigate this brand. I looked at their website quickly and the Magnesium range looks amazing but very expensive. Not surprising if they are genuine magnesium and super light.

Very expensive would be one way of putting it :)

Their base motorsport rim is the t66f, here's a link to the page showing sizes/offsets/weights of their standard wheels to give you a better idea. (Not sure if you can read Japanese and their website is a bit confusing)

http://www.tws-forged.com/tws_t66-f.html

Bardman 09-21-2015 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12607454)
Well Monday is here so good luck with picking up your car and enjoy. Looking forward to seeing it around.

Best wishes
Chris

Thanks Chris,

Picked the car up today and had a lot of fun with it.

Its pretty much everything I hoped it would be. :)

Might write some more soon once I have a few more kms in it.

Cheers,

Brad

Bardman 09-21-2015 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12607441)
What material are you having applied Gazz?

Second this - what did you get done? (material, what did you cover etc)

GAZZ 09-22-2015 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12608720)
Second this - what did you get done? (material, what did you cover etc)


Its in the shop now.
Im getting the entire car covered. Cant remember what brand it is. Has a gloss finish. Not 3M or Ventura.
Will report back later...with a much lighter Wallet.

Maverick1 09-22-2015 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 12611304)
Its in the shop now.
Im getting the entire car covered. Cant remember what brand it is. Has a gloss finish. Not 3M or Ventura.
Will report back later...with a much lighter Wallet.

Are you getting the rear wing done too?

roders 09-23-2015 05:15 AM

Hi Gazz

Whom in Perth is doing yours?

GAZZ 09-23-2015 06:08 AM

Yes the wing is being done.

Let me get the car back first before I say who it is or not.

Its a 5 day wrap!!!!!

P.S.
A club mate got 18" onto his 981 Cayman S with PASM. Used 6mm spacers. I will do test fit on the weekend if I get time.
Anyway lets go to the specific thread re this;
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8942...-on-gt4-2.html

WAY 09-23-2015 07:16 AM

Hey guys, what do you think of the resale on this car here? I am unsure about how the GT4 will fare going up the blue stone entrance to my street. My later GT3s needed front lift to get up here, and I had a 996.2 GT3 that couldn't get up here at all. Even my neighbour's GranTurismo scraps the front unless he crawls at an angle and that isn't such a low car. I'm in two minds whether I should stick to my GT4 order or switch to a Spyder. I could take the risk and pick up the GT4 and see how I go if resale here is like the US where I won't have an issue selling it for what I paid for!

Oh and hi Roders, good to see you here too.

GAZZ 09-23-2015 09:50 AM

GT4 looks about 5mm higher than the GT3. Im even thinking to raise the GT4 10mm.

roders 09-24-2015 11:43 PM

Hi Way.....

I'm sure you wont find any issues reselling a GT4 here either.
Lots of demand with little supply ;)

GAZZ 09-25-2015 04:40 AM

Finally I go to collect my Girl with her new big bra on in 17mins time .
5 days without was hard, but at least I had a track day on Wed to fang the Cayman S about.

cp993 09-25-2015 05:18 AM

Good on you Gazz enjoy while all us waiters wait :) :)

GAZZ 09-25-2015 09:23 AM

Ok, so got the GT4 back.
Carmine RED with gloss film looks freeking AWESOME! :thumbsup:

For those that asked, its Suntek film. Much less noticeable than Venture Shield.

Bardman 10-08-2015 08:26 AM

Interesting read here about Cayman black:

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...ck-again-54384

Main reason for posting though, is that it mentions 140 GT4s have been ordered into Australia and that we have only 70 allocations. Most up to date numbers I have seen.

Bardman 10-08-2015 08:43 AM

This article includes the source of the 140 orders, but also commentary from Porsche that they "hope" to fulfil all 140 orders.

http://www.motormag.com.au/news/1510...ort-announced/

Bardman 10-08-2015 08:54 AM

Lol - now I'm just spamming. Australian reviews are being posted up. Looks like Porsche took the Australian press down to Philip Island today.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/387504/p...ew-track-test/

I called him out on the track only and manual only comments! :)

IMOA 10-08-2015 11:59 AM

Mine should be hitting the docks in the next couple of days but unfortunately I'm off to Europe on saturday so won't be able to pick it up until early november. I think a week in and around the snowies/vic alps in mid november before the schools break for christmas hols might be on the cards though :)

cp993 10-08-2015 06:29 PM

Those delivery numbers sound more believable to what I was originally told Brad which was 30 ish. Think 70 odd is a bit more realistic. Wonder if it will get to 140 though.

Bardman 10-11-2015 02:19 AM

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Snapped a quick photo of mine after washing it today.

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sapman 10-11-2015 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12661715)
Snapped a quick photo of mine after washing it today.

https://i.imgur.com/mV7IkK2.jpg

Beauty.

roders 10-11-2015 02:48 AM

Interesting to see some of the Aussie reviews.
Has anyone else noticed that there was supposed to be only 1x Sapphire Blue press car, but some of the pictures show standard seats but some of the video's are showing LWB's?????

Love you colour Bardman :)

Just got confirmation of my VIN and car has been built :) happy days.

cp993 10-11-2015 02:55 AM

Car looks awesome Brad. Did you end up getting film on the front?

Rod, that's fantastic news re your vin. Hope I have similar news soon given our cars were due to be built same week :)

roders 10-11-2015 03:51 AM

Interesting to also read the Australian Press car was shipped with PS2's.
The customer cars which were delivered at the same time came with the Dunlops....

V-GT400 10-11-2015 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by roders (Post 12661754)
Interesting to see some of the Aussie reviews.
Has anyone else noticed that there was supposed to be only 1x Sapphire Blue press car, but some of the pictures show standard seats but some of the video's are showing LWB's?????

Love you colour Bardman :)

Just got confirmation of my VIN and car has been built :) happy days.

This is because there were two cars at the press launch. The sapphire blue PCA press car with sports seats and JR's white car with LWB seats. So the interior shots with LWB's are Jim's car (note white rear vision mirrors) and the other shots are of the PCA press car.

Bardman 10-11-2015 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12661759)
Car looks awesome Brad. Did you end up getting film on the front?

Rod, that's fantastic news re your vin. Hope I have similar news soon given our cars were due to be built same week :)

Thanks. I haven't done any sort of film on the car. Im a bit on the fence about it to be honest. Likely that I won't do it.

Hope you get your VIN soon!


Originally Posted by roders (Post 12661801)
Interesting to also read the Australian Press car was shipped with PS2's.
The customer cars which were delivered at the same time came with the Dunlops....

Mine came with the PS2's. Given I will pretty much only street my car, I might go for PSSs when these wear out.

Macca 10-11-2015 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12653970)
Lol - now I'm just spamming. Australian reviews are being posted up. Looks like Porsche took the Australian press down to Philip Island today. http://www.caradvice.com.au/387504/p...ew-track-test/ I called him out on the track only and manual only comments! :)

Didn't One of the GT4 there have an engine expiry? That's what someone from NZ in the media who went there reported over here??

roders 10-11-2015 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 12661840)
Mine came with the PS2's. Given I will pretty much only street my car, I might go for PSSs when these wear out.

Hrms wonder why the Perth one that was delivered has the Dunlops? Would have thought they would have both been from the same production runs.

Congrats on the car....love the colour.
Let me know what you do about the film, I was thinking about it. But then advised unless you do the whole car, if you later polish the unfilmed sections there may be colour differences.
I'm thinking might stick with Modesta Paint Protection......

Bardman 10-11-2015 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Macca (Post 12661934)
Didn't One of the GT4 there have an engine expiry? That's what someone from NZ in the media who went there reported over here??

I haven't heard anything about this.

cp993 10-11-2015 09:53 PM

One of the articles I read said there was a problem with the press car but they didnt say what it was. So some of the journalists swapped into JR's targa prepped car to do their laps apparently.....

IMOA 10-13-2015 04:56 AM

Mine arrived yesterday and was fitted with the PS2's which made me happy. Being over the other side of the world, not so much.

roders 10-13-2015 05:36 AM

IMOA....where are you?

cp993 10-13-2015 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 12667153)
Mine arrived yesterday and was fitted with the PS2's which made me happy. Being over the other side of the world, not so much.

Glad to hear it's arrived for you. Something very much to look forward to, coming home I guess :jumper:

Macca 10-13-2015 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 12663524)
One of the articles I read said there was a problem with the press car but they didnt say what it was. So some of the journalists swapped into JR's targa prepped car to do their laps apparently.....

Yes the PCA marketing manager stated in the NZ press that it was a bit embarrassing and the first time they have ever had a blown engine on an Australian new model press release. Not sure what the final diagnosis was...

IMOA 10-13-2015 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by roders (Post 12667167)
IMOA....where are you?

Belgium for the next couple of weeks. Last stop of about 13 months of near constant travel with (hopefully) the rest of the year in Australia.

Reza 10-13-2015 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 12667275)
Belgium for the next couple of weeks. Last stop of about 13 months of near constant travel with (hopefully) the rest of the year in Australia.

If your from Sydney, i'm guessing your's is the Sapphire Blue at Porsche Centre Willoughby?

Reza 10-13-2015 08:56 PM

Is anyone here going to the private showing of the GT4 and GT3 RS at Porsche Centre Sydney South this evening?

Cannot wait!

.dee 10-13-2015 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Reza (Post 12669439)
Is anyone here going to the private showing of the GT4 and GT3 RS at Porsche Centre Sydney South this evening?

Cannot wait!

yes going there, have mine on order with them, should be good!

Reza 10-13-2015 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 12669506)
yes going there, have mine on order with them, should be good!

Great stuff.

Whats the spec of your car?

.dee 10-13-2015 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Reza (Post 12669708)
Great stuff.

Whats the spec of your car?

White
LWB's
Clubsport
Harness for the passenger
Dynamic Lights
Dimming Mirrors
Interior LED package

yours?

Reza 10-14-2015 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 12669887)
White
LWB's
Clubsport
Harness for the passenger
Dynamic Lights
Dimming Mirrors
Interior LED package

yours?

Great spec!!

No GT4 on order for me unfortunately. When are you expecting delivery?

Regards

.dee 10-14-2015 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Reza (Post 12670013)
Great spec!!

No GT4 on order for me unfortunately. When are you expecting delivery?

Regards

last i heard form Lee was a January build so I assume March delivery. Unless Porsche come out with something else in GT in (Manual + NA) this car will be for keeps, and pass it to my 4yo down the track...

IMOA 10-14-2015 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by Reza (Post 12669434)
If your from Sydney, i'm guessing your's is the Sapphire Blue at Porsche Centre Willoughby?

Yep, that's it.

aussie jimmy 10-14-2015 09:58 AM

plenty of rs there last night....

Snowman. 11-25-2015 06:32 PM

Well mine is on a boat.

Due in port early Jan. Count down has officially begun and the next month or so will be spent watching the shipping tracker.

sapman 11-25-2015 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 12790499)
Well mine is on a boat.

Due in port early Jan. Count down has officially begun and the next month or so will be spent watching the shipping tracker.

How long does it take a vessel to get from Germany to Australia?

V-GT400 11-25-2015 06:50 PM

Hi Snowman
Probably on the same boat with mine which was finished on October 26 and shipping now. Due for delivery in January from PCM.

Snowman. 11-25-2015 06:53 PM

It left yesterday and is due into Melbourne Jan 5th.

Has 5 stops along the way.

Snowman. 11-25-2015 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by V-GT400 (Post 12790551)
Hi Snowman
Probably on the same boat with mine which was finished on October 26 and shipping now. Due for delivery in January from PCM.

I'd say yours is on the TORRENS along with chris-p and roders which is due into port Jan 2nd as they were both built around the same time as yours. Actually Roders is in Freo so he'll get his earlier.

But I'm on BOHEME (mine was built Nov 11th - was delayed slightly due to the LWB's but I got them in the end) and is a few days behind consequently.

V-GT400 11-25-2015 06:58 PM

What is the ship called? Where are you following it?

V-GT400 11-25-2015 07:00 PM

Ah, you answered my question already. Where do you track them?
Mine has LWB as well but no scaffolding in the back.

Snowman. 11-25-2015 07:00 PM

Follow here - put your VIN into the box marked cargo id. (Can get your VIN from PCM)

https://www.2wglobal.com/webapps?fra...uickSearchPage

V-GT400 11-25-2015 07:13 PM

OK, thanks. Will follow it.

cp993 11-25-2015 07:21 PM

Yep sounds like a good start to 2016 for a few of us in Oz. Mine along with Roders is on the Torrens which departed bremerhaven early yesterday morning our time, due into Mel Jan 2. doing a bit of a mini world tour along the way with stops in belgium, UK, Spain and South Africa beforehand. V-GT400 once you have the vessel name you can track the vessel at the link below.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home?level0=100

Just put the vessel name in search box in the top right corner and it should give you some info.
Cheers
Chris

sapman 11-25-2015 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 12790557)
It left yesterday and is due into Melbourne Jan 5th.

Has 5 stops along the way.

Ouch. That is a long wait. I guess anticipation is half the fun.

cp993 11-25-2015 07:35 PM

Sure is. around 38 to 40 days is the normal transit time port to port. Trouble is have just about run out of anticipation given most of us have been waiting since Feb, March. At least we life in a place were we can use them all year round :)

V-GT400 11-25-2015 07:43 PM

Just got my VIN number from PCM and definitely on the Torrens arriving in Melbourne January 2nd.
Anyone in Melbourne looking at paint protection films?

cp993 11-25-2015 07:46 PM

Thats good news V-GT400. Yes i am definitely getting protective film. I will try to get it done virtually the day after I pick it up if I can manage it.

V-GT400 11-25-2015 07:48 PM

What film and who will you get to apply it?

cp993 11-25-2015 07:54 PM

Everyone speaks pretty highly of Invisible Car bra so I will get a quote from them and another place in Ringwood or Nunawading. Not sure of the name but will let you know. I will PM you my email address and we can compare notes. I have to sort out who I will use for insurance. Previous car was with Porsche insurance so will get a quote from them

V-GT400 11-25-2015 08:09 PM

Thanks, email sent.

roders 11-25-2015 09:30 PM

The race is one....there are two boats on the way from Germany now. About 3 days apart from each other :)
1st one departed 24th Nov, due to Perth 28th December.
Depending on the schedules/stops usually takes 28-45 days.

roders 11-25-2015 09:33 PM

Looks like lots of LWB's got released for Australia :)
Mine was a 1st Oct build, but my car decided to enjoy Oktoberfest before getting on a boat hahahah.

Be interesting to compare notes with other on insurance companies for a GT4.

Snowman. 11-25-2015 10:09 PM

Chris - since there are 3 of us due for cars all together see if any of the clear bra people want to do a discount on 3 cars maybe?

cp993 11-25-2015 10:14 PM

Will be in touch :)

roders 11-25-2015 10:15 PM

except I'm in Perth :(
I'm thinking of Modesta BC05 :)

Bardman 04-20-2016 07:09 AM

Bumping this thread.

Quack 04-20-2016 08:45 AM

Thanks for bumping the thread Bardman!! Mine should delivered in July/August by Porsche Centre Brighton, after some brilliant help from Richard C. I see Snowman on the forum! I seem to be always following him (I bought my first R35 GT-R from FTG Nissan in 2009, and got mine about a month after he got his lol).


I ordered mine in early October, apparently I'm PCB's last GT4 allocation :)

Snowman. 04-20-2016 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13214915)
Thanks for bumping the thread Bardman!! Mine should delivered in July/August by Porsche Centre Brighton, after some brilliant help from Richard C. I see Snowman on the forum! I seem to be always following him (I bought my first R35 GT-R from FTG Nissan in 2009, and got mine about a month after he got his lol).


I ordered mine in early October, apparently I'm PCB's last GT4 allocation :)

There is another guy Mark (not on the forums) who got one of the first R35's from FTG, and he also now got the first Aussie delivered GT4 last year. So it seems we all share common tastes. Richard at PCB is a great guy - he is who I dealt with for both the GT4 and the Macan.

Also if you haven't already - as good as this forum is for information - if you are interested in a social side jump on PFA - http://porscheforum.com.au/ I've had a few good meet ups for coffee etc already.

FWIW - this is my little beasty.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a02ddec06d.jpg

Quack 04-20-2016 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13216879)
There is another guy Mark (not on the forums) who got one of the first R35's from FTG, and he also now got the first Aussie delivered GT4 last year. So it seems we all share common tastes. Richard at PCB is a great guy - he is who I dealt with for both the GT4 and the Macan.

Also if you haven't already - as good as this forum is for information - if you are interested in a social side jump on PFA - http://porscheforum.com.au/ I've had a few good meet ups for coffee etc already.

FWIW - this is my little beasty.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a02ddec06d.jpg

Very, very nice. You still have the "SMAUG" plates I see (I was a long time lurker on the SAU forums in the past). Will definitely check out the PFA forums for the social side. The funny thing is I want to replace my A45 with a Macan Turbo in a year or two when my lease is due on my A45 :) so it seems we do seem to share similar taste in cars!

GAZZ 04-20-2016 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13216879)
There is another guy Mark (not on the forums) who got one of the first R35's from FTG, and he also now got the first Aussie delivered GT4 last year.

I have to correct you on that one.
In fact the first delivered Aust GT4 was in Western Australia (Carmine Red). The supply ship visited WA before Melb or Syd.
What was printed in the Christphorous Magazine about the first Aust delivery was also wrong.
The lucky winner for the first delivered GT4 was....
Me! :)

Just setting the record straight. ha ha.

GAZZ 04-20-2016 08:56 PM

Here she be on display with some friends...https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...55677906c3.jpg

Snowman. 04-20-2016 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 13217155)
I have to correct you on that one.
In fact the first delivered Aust GT4 was in Western Australia (Carmine Red). The supply ship visited WA before Melb or Syd.
What was printed in the Christphorous Magazine about the first Aust delivery was also wrong.
The lucky winner for the first delivered GT4 was....
Me! :)

Just setting the record straight. ha ha.

Haha - ok GAZZ - I should change it to you, Jim Richards, Mark and Bardman all got cars in the first shipment. :D

Quack 04-20-2016 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13217196)
Haha - ok GAZZ - I should change it to you, Jim Richards, Mark and Bardman all got cars in the first shipment. :D


And I reckon I'll probably be one of the last in Australia to get a GT4! :D

Bardman 04-21-2016 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13217196)
Haha - ok GAZZ - I should change it to you, Jim Richards, Mark and Bardman all got cars in the first shipment. :D

More accurately, Gazz, Me, Jim Richards, and then Mark! :D

cp993 04-21-2016 12:42 AM

You guys crack me up :) :)

Bardman 04-21-2016 01:07 AM

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I had to get new numberplates moving down to Tasmania. My 18 months old daughter always says brm brm when she sees my car, so I went for the following:

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cp993 04-21-2016 01:27 AM

Thats excellent Brad. A story you will be able to tell her when she is older and you bring out that photo :)

GAZZ 04-21-2016 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13217259)
And I reckon I'll probably be one of the last in Australia to get a GT4! :D

Last is collectable too, so good on ya, and its newer too, ha ha.

cp993 04-21-2016 02:50 AM

So how many Km's have you guys racked up. I have just hit 3000km since delivery day on Jan 23...

Tilpa 04-21-2016 03:18 AM

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1'600 odd km's for me - delivery was mid Feb.
Oil and filters at 1'000 km. 1 track day down at Wakefield with hopefully many more to come!

O5C4R 04-21-2016 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Tilpa (Post 13218059)
1'600 odd km's for me - delivery was mid Feb.
Oil and filters at 1'000 km. 1 track day down at Wakefield with hopefully many more to come!

How did you find the gearing at wakefield?

IMOA 04-21-2016 04:00 AM

11500km and only spent 7 weeks in Australia since october when i picked it up.

Tilpa 04-21-2016 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe (Post 13218087)
How did you find the gearing at wakefield?

It seemed suited to the track - lots of second and third gear corners. I was down there for a test day in a formula ford and only got the GT4 on for the last session at the end of the day when everyone else cleared out. Car performed great but felt like a Cadillac after 80+ laps in the formula ford!

I noticed that the rear of the car was hopping / skipping in some of the higher speed corners. I put it down to either high tire pressure (didn't get a chance to adjust it down) or the traction control which I didn't switch off as it was the first time I tracked the car.

O5C4R 04-21-2016 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Tilpa (Post 13218115)
It seemed suited to the track - lots of second and third gear corners. I was down there for a test day in a formula ford and only got the GT4 on for the last session at the end of the day when everyone else cleared out. Car performed great but felt like a Cadillac after 80+ laps in the formula ford!

I noticed that the rear of the car was hopping / skipping in some of the higher speed corners. I put it down to either high tire pressure (didn't get a chance to adjust it down) or the traction control which I didn't switch off as it was the first time I tracked the car.

sounds pretty good, formula ford is something else lucky man would love to try it, i am hoping 2nd and 3rd are right for EC too

Quack 04-21-2016 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 13218030)
Last is collectable too, so good on ya, and its newer too, ha ha.


Thanks mate, but the anticipation is killing me :D

Snowman. 04-21-2016 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13218031)
So how many Km's have you guys racked up. I have just hit 3000km since delivery day on Jan 23...

I've done about 1,600kms including 3 track days - and have ordered a new set of tyres already. lol

GAZZ 04-21-2016 09:30 PM

I got about 5000kms.

Actually the car is in storage for a week now. This is because Im not tracking it until I can "fix" it and get 18" stickies on. With the OEM tyres, for me, the car is just too slow and not competitive (like to run against Open or GT class).

My lightly modded Cayman S is a lot faster in the corners and its off to the country today for the next sprint event at the track on Sat.

Snowman. 04-21-2016 09:48 PM

GAZZ - fwiw - Mark tested a set of the Pirelli Trofeo R's a couple of weeks ago at Phillip Island.

We estimate them to be 2s / lap faster than either the Dunlop or Michelin's at that track. It's what I have ordered now. Prices for them were nearly half what we were quoted for the OEM's too.

Still not quite as good as a full R Comp - but it brings the speed of the cars up to a pretty high level.

GAZZ 04-21-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13220736)
GAZZ - fwiw - Mark tested a set of the Pirelli Trofeo R's a couple of weeks ago at Phillip Island.

We estimate them to be 2s / lap faster than either the Dunlop or Michelin's at that track. It's what I have ordered now. Prices for them were nearly half what we were quoted for the OEM's too.

Still not quite as good as a full R Comp - but it brings the speed of the cars up to a pretty high level.

Had considered that, but some are saying Trofeo Rs' are slow than Dunlops.
Anyway the Cayman S is running A050 SOFT. So compared to that, all the above is way slower.
Sure, I burn the A050s... its not cheap to beat the GT3s and stripped race cars with the lowly Cayman S, ha ha.

James88 04-21-2016 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 13220667)
I got about 5000kms.

Actually the car is in storage for a week now. This is because Im not tracking it until I can "fix" it and get 18" stickies on. With the OEM tyres, for me, the car is just too slow and not competitive (like to run against Open or GT class).

My lightly modded Cayman S is a lot faster in the corners and its off to the country today for the next sprint event at the track on Sat.

Interesting your S is faster in the corners than the GT4. What needs fixing on the GT4?

Snowman. 04-21-2016 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 13220798)
Had considered that, but some are saying Trofeo Rs' are slow than Dunlops.

Nope - Trofeo's are WAAYY faster. We were seeing +10km/hr faster in some corners.

GAZZ - for as good a reference as I can give - the time ran at Phillip Island on the Trofeo R was pretty much the same as my old R34's time there. I took that over to W.A. once and we ran a 63 at Barbagallo long. So I reckon the GT4 on Trofeo's should be pretty close to that.

Not sure what times your Cayman S does there?

GAZZ 04-24-2016 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13220914)
Nope - Trofeo's are WAAYY faster. We were seeing +10km/hr faster in some corners.

GAZZ - for as good a reference as I can give - the time ran at Phillip Island on the Trofeo R was pretty much the same as my old R34's time there. I took that over to W.A. once and we ran a 63 at Barbagallo long. So I reckon the GT4 on Trofeo's should be pretty close to that.

Not sure what times your Cayman S does there?

63 long is a really good time.
The S did a 66.4 long, which is still the Porsche class A record from 2013.
One other GT4s' ran a 70 long, but were not driven to 100%.

roders 04-25-2016 06:13 AM

Was just getting warmed up ;)
Hope to get the GT4 back on the road soon to break under the 70's :)

Snowman. 04-26-2016 12:04 AM

One of my good mates who I used to do the Dutton Rallies with +10 years ago has just started doing Porsche W.A. days in his 964 RSR hotrod (Blaise Paris). He's the reason the R34 came west as we used to run in his EVO over there and he in my R34 in Vic but he was between cars one year.

Was speaking to Blaise before (we're going to Rennsport next week together) and he reminded me it was bucketing down at Barbs with my car - we ran the 63 in his EVO the year later. But he says my thing should have been about that time as well. We did run it at Collie at Duttons - did a 49.1 back then. I think you guys were there on the weekend? I think Blaise said he ran a 50.1 on the weekend in his 964 and a 65 at Barbs the other day so that sounds about right.

This is Blaise's current little bus.

https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.ne...f5e14d99fc6d6c

spiller 04-26-2016 10:23 AM

^^^ enjoyed his build thread over on PF. Snowman are you IMOA or is that another bloke? Can't keep up with the sapphire GT4s haha (lovely colour btw).

Interesting to hear that the cup 2s aren't up to scratch on these things. I run A050 soft front medium rear on my GT3 and would never go backwards now as they're bliss, but I thought the Cup 2 was basically an R-comp in its own right.

Hoping these GT4s drop a bit in the years to come so maybe I can hop into one. Won't hold my breath though!!

Snowman. 04-26-2016 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by spiller (Post 13232497)
Snowman are you IMOA or is that another bloke? Can't keep up with the sapphire GT4s haha (lovely colour btw).

No I'm Snowman over there too :)

I'm mostly in the Motorsport section on PF though. But Blaise has always built fantastic cars.

IMOA 04-26-2016 07:42 PM

And I'm IMOA here as well :)

spiller 04-28-2016 06:36 AM

That clears that up then :)

Tilpa 05-02-2016 01:44 AM

Agate grey available
 
Hi guys,

Was out at Rennsport on Sunday and my dealer mentioned he had an Agate grey GT4 with sofas that a customer had passed on. Basic spec and ready to go.

If there is any interest PM me and I will pass on his contact details.

cheers,
Noel

NBTBRV8 05-02-2016 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Tilpa (Post 13249900)
Hi guys,

Was out at Rennsport on Sunday and my dealer mentioned he had an Agate grey GT4 with sofas that a customer had passed on. Basic spec and ready to go.

If there is any interest PM me and I will pass on his contact details.

cheers,
Noel

Any idea on price?

Snowman. 05-02-2016 07:44 PM

Was also at Rennsport and my dealer said he has a Guards Red with Clubsport (carbon seats, half cage) and a few other small things - due in this week a customer canceled for $227K drive away.

Tilpa 05-02-2016 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13251635)
Any idea on price?

I didn't ask him but it's a low spec car & brand new so it should be RRP + options & standard dealer delivery.

NBTBRV8 05-03-2016 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13252036)
Was also at Rennsport and my dealer said he has a Guards Red with Clubsport (carbon seats, half cage) and a few other small things - due in this week a customer canceled for $227K drive away.


Originally Posted by Tilpa (Post 13252076)
I didn't ask him but it's a low spec car & brand new so it should be RRP + options & standard dealer delivery.

Which dealers?

I am getting a price to trade in my yet undelivered GTS on a GT4 at the moment.

Bardman 05-03-2016 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13253255)
Which dealers?

I am getting a price to trade in my yet undelivered GTS on a GT4 at the moment.

Why would you need a trade price on an undelivered GTS? Would have thought best for everyone if you just didn't take delivery.

NBTBRV8 05-03-2016 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13253273)
Why would you need a trade price on an undelivered GTS? Would have thought best for everyone if you just didn't take delivery.

It is on the water to me now and is a high spec custom order.

Since I posted above they have given me a trade in price and it is too far below my contract price and with no discount on a new car I can't afford it.

Bardman 05-03-2016 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13253274)
It is on the water to me now and is a high spec custom order.

Since I posted above they have given me a trade in price and it is too far below my contract price and with no discount on a new car I can't afford it.

Given you have not taken delivery they can still sell as new. They might make you eat some of your deposit but setting it up as a trade means you have pay stamp duty and luxury car tax - there is no way you can get close to whole this way.

NBTBRV8 05-03-2016 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13253278)
Given you have not taken delivery they can still sell as new. They might make you eat some of your deposit but setting it up as a trade means you have pay stamp duty and luxury car tax - there is no way you can get close to whole this way.

It doesn't work like that. They have offered $40k less than my contract price.

Mine is the same look as this except it has Carbon folding buckets, PCCB, no rear wiper and no GTS exterior pack (painted black bits).

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...07201167_n.jpg

Quack 05-25-2016 08:28 AM

Had confirmation today that my GT4 build was completed on 24 May 16 :) Should be getting it in early August! Not long now...

James88 05-25-2016 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13318147)
Had confirmation today that my GT4 build was completed on 24 May 16 :) Should be getting it in early August! Not long now...

Congrats on the build completion. Which Porsche centre did you go through.
Mine is through Porsche Melbourne and build date 12th of May, waiting for shipping. Expecting a delivery date confirmation any day now.

Quack 05-25-2016 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13319874)
Congrats on the build completion. Which Porsche centre did you go through.
Mine is through Porsche Melbourne and build date 12th of May, waiting for shipping. Expecting a delivery date confirmation any day now.


Thanks mate, Congrats on your build completion too!


I went through Porsche Brighton. I expect my car will be shipped in the next couple of weeks, and then the next part of the waiting game :)

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13320140)
Thanks mate, Congrats on your build completion too!


I went through Porsche Brighton. I expect my car will be shipped in the next couple of weeks, and then the next part of the waiting game :)

Do you guys know how to track your shipping online off your commission number? I am doing that on my GTS at present which lands in Melbourne on Monday.

James88 05-25-2016 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13320173)
Do you guys know how to track your shipping online off your commission number? I am doing that on my GTS at present which lands in Melbourne on Monday.

No I did not know that, how would I get the commission number, is it in the contracts? I'm guessing tracking will be active once its on the ship, is that correct?

cp993 05-25-2016 08:59 PM

Jim, once they give you the VIN number you will be able to track it via the shipping lines track and trace system.
C

James88 05-25-2016 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13320255)
Jim, once they give you the VIN number you will be able to track it via the shipping lines track and trace system.
C

Very good, I'll call and get my vin number. Thank you.

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320268)
Very good, I'll call and get my vin number. Thank you.

The commission number is on your contract.

If you don't have it ask your dealer. Once you have this you can track your shipment before you even get your VIN.

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320207)
No I did not know that, how would I get the commission number, is it in the contracts? I'm guessing tracking will be active once its on the ship, is that correct?

I forgot to add the tracking is active from the time it is booked on the boat. In my case it was booked about one week prior to loading.

James88 05-25-2016 09:12 PM

Great, thanks guys. I'll have a look when I get home, once I have the commission No. how do I track it, which online site is it?

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320288)
Great, thanks guys. I'll have a look when I get home, once I have the commission No. how do I track it, which online site is it?

I would ring your dealer and ask for the commission number. Quite often they don't have it when you've signed the contract on day 0, only if you've modified your contract with a change in options say and they give you a new copy once your allocation is confirmed.

To track it, go to:

https://att.2wglobal.com/gstattweb/o...uickSearchPage

Type in your commission number in to the "Customer Reference Number", or if you do happen to already have your VIN, type that in to the "Cargo ID" and then search.

It will come up with all your shipping details.

If you want to nose around, copy your "Bill of Lading" as shown, go back and do a new search just on that number. It will show how many Porsche's are in that shipment to the port of discharge your car is going to.

Now that you know the boat, go to: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ and sign up to become a member and buy the 1 month service for satellite tracking which is about $15.00 and allocate that service to the vessel your car is booked on. But only do this once loaded or you might run out of time before it gets here.

You can track it without the satellite payment, but that is a delayed service and only when the vessel gets close to the shore.

James88 05-25-2016 09:46 PM

That's great info, much appreciated. I'll be watching it like a hawk...lol.

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320393)
That's great info, much appreciated. I'll be watching it like a hawk...lol.

It is a slow process but somewhat perversely enjoyable if you like your detail.
The boat departs Germany and goes to Belgium, UK, Spain, 3 stops in South Africa, Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Kembla and lastly Brisbane.

It takes 5 weeks to get to Melbourne.

Post back how you go.

James88 05-25-2016 10:16 PM

Ok, seems like its not booked on the boat. I'll keep trying, regarding vin No.s, are all the zeros actually zeros or is there letters of "O" in there aswell? This is part of my vin No. WP0ZZZ****K19****, is it WP and the letter O or the number zero 0?

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320489)
Ok, seems like its not booked on the boat. I'll keep trying, regarding vin No.s, are all the zeros actually zeros or is there letters of "O" in there aswell? This is part of my vin No. XX, is it WP and the letter O or the number zero 0?

They are all the numeral zero.

Keep on trying it. Mine came out of production in the week ending 15/4, but was booked on 11/4. It then arrived at the boat on the 18/4, the same day it sailed.

James88 05-25-2016 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13320512)
They are all the numeral zero.

Keep on trying it. Mine came out of production in the week ending 15/4, but was booked on 11/4. It then arrived at the boat on the 18/4, the same day it sailed.

Fantastic, thanks. Do you mind deleting my vin No. on your post
as I've had 2nd thoughts on posting them on here. TIA

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320541)
Fantastic, thanks. Do you mind deleting my vin No. on your post
as I've had 2nd thoughts on posting them on here. TIA

James part of the reason it is not coming up is that your vin should be 17 digits long, the number you've quoted is 15.

James88 05-25-2016 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13320553)
James part of the reason it is not coming up is that your vin should be 17 digits long, the number you've quoted is 15.

Yes I left out the last 2 on here but did enter it, thanks.
I was late to the party as I scored someone else's configurable order in late March, so I'm guessing they're getting out all the older orders out 1st. I've been told it could be waiting for up to 3 or 4 weeks to get on the boat.

NBTBRV8 05-25-2016 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13320578)
Yes I left out the last 2 on here but did enter it, thanks.
I was late to the party as I scored someone else's configurable order in late March, so I'm guessing they're getting out all the older orders out 1st. I've been told it could be waiting for up to 3 or 4 weeks to get on the boat.

I would be surprised if it took that long to get on a boat.

Charliekay 05-26-2016 01:04 AM

Thanks for this, just checked mine as it was built 3rd of May.

Loaded onto boat on 16/05 and ETA @ Port Kembla is 27th June. So looking like an end of July delivery. :corn:

James88 05-26-2016 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13320936)
Thanks for this, just checked mine as it was built 3rd of May.

Loaded onto boat on 16/05 and ETA @ Port Kembla is 27th June. So looking like an end of July delivery. :corn:

Yes stock up on lots of popcorn...so thats a 10 week turnaround, I thought it was more like 4 weeks, or am I wrong?

NBTBRV8 05-26-2016 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13321077)
Yes stock up on lots of popcorn...so thats a 6 week turnaround, I thought it was more like 4 weeks, or am I wrong?

No it is six weeks of watching www.marinetraffic.com willing the boat to go faster.

My car is sailIng past Albany now.

James88 05-26-2016 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13321082)
No it is six weeks of watching www.marinetraffic.com willing the boat to go faster.

My car is sailIng past Albany now.

Ok, so I have 6 weeks plus waiting time to board the ship, so maybe 8 weeks for me, pass the popcorn please.........
So yours is nearly here, you must be pretty excited to say the least.

NBTBRV8 05-26-2016 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13321091)
Ok, so I have 6 weeks plus waiting time to board the ship, so maybe 8 weeks for me, pass the popcorn please.........
So yours is nearly here, you must be pretty excited to say the least.

Yes, docks in Melbourne on Monday, but I can see it being another three weeks or so before I can collect it here in Tasmania.

Unfortunately it isn't a GT4 though, see my posts earlier in this thread. Still looking forward to it though.

Also the only port web cam I could find on the whole route is at Fremantle, so you can see the boat in realtime if you are keen.

roders 05-26-2016 03:43 AM

Looks like everyone who wanted a GT4 in Australia was able to get one :).
Eventually......

James88 05-26-2016 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13321099)
Yes, docks in Melbourne on Monday, but I can see it being another three weeks or so before I can collect it here in Tasmania.

Unfortunately it isn't a GT4 though, see my posts earlier in this thread. Still looking forward to it though.

Also the only port web cam I could find on the whole route is at Fremantle, so you can see the boat in realtime if you are keen.

Looks like you ordered the GTS, a friend has one and he's absolutely wrapped in it.


Originally Posted by roders (Post 13321148)
Looks like everyone who wanted a GT4 in Australia was able to get one :).
Eventually......

Yes it does seem that way doesn't it. As of late last week there's a new allocation at PCM as well if anyone is interested.

roders 05-26-2016 05:05 AM

Looks like new round for GT3-RS Allocations also just came out for end of year.
One more just locked at PCP :)

NBTBRV8 05-26-2016 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13321169)
Looks like you ordered the GTS, a friend has one and he's absolutely wrapped in it.

Yes it does seem that way doesn't it. As of late last week there's a new allocation at PCM as well if anyone is interested.

I still would have liked a GT4, just got the timing wrong. With cars still available, it stings, but I hope the GTS will be 70% of a 4 in the spec I have ordered.


Originally Posted by roders (Post 13321182)
Looks like new round for GT3-RS Allocations also just came out for end of year.
One more just locked at PCP :)

Well done on the RS, I had a ride in one a fortnight ago and they are fantastic.

James88 05-27-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13320447)
It is a slow process but somewhat perversely enjoyable if you like your detail.
The boat departs Germany and goes to Belgium, UK, Spain, 3 stops in South Africa, Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Kembla and lastly Brisbane.

It takes 5 weeks to get to Melbourne.

Post back how you go.

My car was built on the 12th of May, that's 15 days ago and no shipping details yet.

Charliekay 05-27-2016 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13324598)
My car was built on the 12th of May, that's 15 days ago and no shipping details yet.

I am suprised that it did not go on the boat on the 16th of May. Mine was built on the 3rd of May, was booked on 13th of May and the boat departed on the 16th.

When you put your VIN in the tracking portal does it come up with results?

NBTBRV8 05-27-2016 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13324598)
My car was built on the 12th of May, that's 15 days ago and no shipping details yet.

Search by your commission number then, something doesn't seem right.

The other outlier is that it could be that the car was sent off for a random QA check, which delays the process.

James88 05-27-2016 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13326557)
I am suprised that it did not go on the boat on the 16th of May. Mine was built on the 3rd of May, was booked on 13th of May and the boat departed on the 16th.

When you put your VIN in the tracking portal does it come up with results?

Yes entered Vin No. in the Cargo ID , this is what it says "No records found" and that's it, nothing else come up.


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13326744)
Search by your commission number then, something doesn't seem right.

The other outlier is that it could be that the car was sent off for a random QA check, which delays the process.

Great, that's all I need. I'll try and look on the bright side and think they'll give my car a good look through.

NBTBRV8 05-27-2016 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13326864)
Yes entered Vin No. in the Cargo ID , this is what it says "No records found" and that's it, nothing else come up.


Great, that's all I need. I'll try and look on the bright side and think they'll give my car a good look through.

Ask you dealer for your commission number and search for that.

Also just to check the validity of your vin, put it into here: http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Porsche

It doesn't tell you much, but see if it says it is a Australian Spec GT4. At least that way you know your VIN is right.

James88 05-27-2016 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13327093)
Ask you dealer for your commission number and search for that.

Also just to check the validity of your vin, put it into here: http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Porsche

It doesn't tell you much, but see if it says it is a Australian Spec GT4. At least that way you know your VIN is right.

Thanks, validity came up with a boxter order..!!! I think you're definitely onto something here, not right at all.

My dealer had no idea what a commission number is, he said it should be the same as stock number which is one letter and a series of 5 numbers.

NBTBRV8 05-28-2016 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13327224)
Thanks, validity came up with a boxter order..!!!

My sales rep had no idea what a commission number is, he said it should be the same as stock number which is one letter and a series of 5 numbers.

All 981s come up as Boxsters on that site from memory. Look down the bottom at the additional details.

The Commission number is one letter and 5 numbers. Get that number. In face you can ask for a screen print off Porsche Australia's Dealer Connect System.

James88 05-28-2016 12:23 AM

Here are some screen shots with deleted numbers.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9507ac4770.gif



https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72db793a56.png

NBTBRV8 05-28-2016 12:25 AM

So what do you get when you type the G stock number in to the customer reference field on the WW search?

NBTBRV8 05-28-2016 12:28 AM

I don't think it has been handed to WW yet, as it hasn't been invoiced to Porsche Australia by the look of that screen shot and no boat is listed.

James88 05-28-2016 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13327286)
So what do you get when you type the G stock number in to the customer reference field on the WW search?

Same as before. Again I deleted last few numbers before posting here.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ef97918d92.png

NBTBRV8 05-28-2016 12:33 AM

For whatever reason Porsche haven't handed it over to the shipping line yet. Not much you can do but keep on trying it daily until it pops up.

James88 05-28-2016 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13327301)
For whatever reason Porsche haven't handed it over to the shipping line yet. Not much you can do but keep on trying it daily until it pops up.

Ok, thanks for your help.

Charliekay 05-28-2016 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13327307)
Ok, thanks for your help.

I wouldn't worry too much. I just decoded my VIN in the same tool and it came up with a Boxter as well. ☺

James88 06-01-2016 06:59 PM

Just received WW logistics vessel booking, ETD 1st June with an ETA 10th July. car was built on 12th May, that's exactly 3 weeks to vessel ETD. Had no notification prior today.
Thanks for everyone's help.

cp993 06-01-2016 08:32 PM

Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C

NBTBRV8 06-01-2016 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13339006)
Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C

But on the other hand mine got on a boat within a few days, arrived in Melbourne on the due date which was Monday and got cleared within two days, I.e. yesterday.

So it all depends on a whole host of factors. At least you know where it is now and have a date. That is livable, not knowing isn't.

cp993 06-01-2016 08:40 PM

That's awesome and great to hear the timing was so good for you. Better go buy a tattslotto ticket :)

NBTBRV8 06-01-2016 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13339020)
That's awesome and great to hear the timing was so good for you. Better go buy a tattslotto ticket :)

And for you to stop walking under ladders :)

James88 06-01-2016 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13339006)
Jim, that timing is pretty normal.mmine was at port in Bremerhaven for 4 weeks before shipping. Also don't be surprised if there is hold ups at this end. Mine was almost 4 weeks from arrival at port in Melbourne before I was able to take delivery due to quarantine issues...
C

Thanks C

Is that you Chris Perry? If it is, its me Jim (JimTT)

Charliekay 06-01-2016 10:00 PM

Great news James. Glad to hear it wasn't one of those affected by the accident.

The timing seems right, mine was built 03/05 and on a boat 16/05. I guess it depends on the boat availability.

Charliekay 06-01-2016 10:02 PM

Question about Paint Protection.

Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end?

Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it.

After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection.

The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

roders 06-01-2016 10:04 PM

At least you guys made it onto the boat :(
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

Mine is still in Melbourne on vacation and waiting to come home...... ;)

NBTBRV8 06-01-2016 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13339249)
Question about Paint Protection.

Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end?

Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it.

After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection.

The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

From my understanding glass coating is designed to try an prevent fine scratches in the clear and offers next to no protection for rock impacts.

Film does both of protecting the paint from impacts and the clear from fine swirl scratches. Like any product though, it needs up keep in the form of a fine polish like Clearplex Plastic cleaner to keep the clarity.

I am doing a full front wrap on mine, plus the sills, up the rear guards, full roof, windscreen pillars and mirrors. Plus I am also fitting Clearplex windscreen film to prevent hazing and chips.

Charliekay 06-01-2016 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13339266)
From my understanding glass coating is designed to try an prevent fine scratches in the clear and offers next to no protection for rock impacts.

Film does both of protecting the paint from impacts and the clear from fine swirl scratches. Like any product though, it needs up keep in the form of a fine polish like Clearplex Plastic cleaner to keep the clarity.

I am doing a full front wrap on mine, plus the sills, up the rear guards, full roof, windscreen pillars and mirrors. Plus I am also fitting Clearplex windscreen film to prevent hazing and chips.

I was going to do a full wrap on the car but I have been turned off a little by people telling me that discolouration of the wrap will show up on white cars more. Now in 2 minds.

James88 06-01-2016 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13339239)
Great news James. Glad to hear it wasn't one of those affected by the accident.

The timing seems right, mine was built 03/05 and on a boat 16/05. I guess it depends on the boat availability.

Thanks, yes I really thought mine was one of the two white ones on that truck. I feel for the owners of those cars though.

cp993 06-01-2016 10:38 PM

Yes Jim it's me. :)
Glad your car is on the water now.
Cheers
Chris

cp993 06-01-2016 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13339249)
Question about Paint Protection.

Who of you are clear wrapping you car? Are you wrapping the whole car or just front end?

Any people who prefer to glass coat it rather than wrap it.

After talking to a few people it seems like the pros of wrapping over coating is it gives more protection.

The downside to wrapping is it is not as glossy and doesn't bead as well as glass coating, plus on a white car you may see discolouration after a couple of years.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

I have had the front from the windscreen forward wrapped, under sills inlet blades, door handles and mirrors as well. The back half of the car is ceramic coated and after the wrap I put a spray on ceramic sealer called Reload over the top. The wrap is so so. Cannot say I am thrilled with it but it's doing its job and preventing chips etc. it is going back to get some of the wrap redone due dirt underneath the wrap and some imperfections.

cp993 06-01-2016 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13339024)
And for you to stop walking under ladders :)

Ha yes I think you are right :roflmao:

Charliekay 06-01-2016 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13339355)
I have had the front from the windscreen forward wrapped, under sills inlet blades, door handles and mirrors as well. The back half of the car is ceramic coated and after the wrap I put a spray on ceramic sealer called Reload over the top. The wrap is so so. Cannot say I am thrilled with it but it's doing its job and preventing chips etc. it is going back to get some of the wrap redone due dirt underneath the wrap and some imperfections.

Thanks mate.

How is the unwrapped parts of the car going with less protection? Do you track the car?

cp993 06-01-2016 10:52 PM

No problem really. The car wil not be tracked or rained upon if I can help it. :)

The only area that seems to have copped a little bit is the rear guards at the bottom behind the tyres but even if it was wrapped I think it would have too. I have done 3500km so far...

James88 06-02-2016 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13339342)
Yes Jim it's me. :)
Glad your car is on the water now.
Cheers
Chris

Hey Chris
Good to see you on here, looks like you're really enjoying your car, it definitely looks amazing in black. Hope to catch up soon. :thumbup:

NBTBRV8 06-03-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13327281)

James I have been doing a bit more digging and found out that the "Production date" was the actual scheduled date from when you got a commission number. Your actual build date is "Plwk" for product week, so yours came off the line much later. So yours didn't sit around for any length of time.

Quack 06-03-2016 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342734)
James I have been doing a bit more digging and found out that the "Production date" was the actual scheduled date from when you got a commission number. Your actual build date is "Plwk" for product week, so yours came off the line much later. So yours didn't sit around for any length of time.

Hmmm, my build date is 23 May 16, but my Plwk is 23. I still don't have a confirmation on WWL... :(

NBTBRV8 06-03-2016 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13342754)
Hmmm, my build date is 23 May 16, but my Plwk is 23. I still don't have a confirmation on WWL... :(

Week 23 is next week. So I'd say it hasn't come out of build yet.

My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at.

James88 06-03-2016 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342734)
James I have been doing a bit more digging and found out that the "Production date" was the actual scheduled date from when you got a commission number. Your actual build date is "Plwk" for product week, so yours came off the line much later. So yours didn't sit around for any length of time.


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342757)
Week 23 is next week. So I'd say it hasn't come out of build yet.

My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at.

I'm not sure I understand this, if I work out 22 weeks from the start of Jan that works out to be 3rd of June.

My car was booked on the ship 24th of May and loaded on the 1st of June, build date 12th May, what am I missing here.

NBTBRV8 06-03-2016 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13342839)
I'm not sure I understand this, if I work out 22 weeks from the start of Jan that works out to be 3rd of June.

My car was booked on the ship 24th of May and loaded on the 1st of June, build date 12th May, what am I missing here.

I think the build date on your AS400 screen shot isn't the actual build date, only the first date allocated for it.

When I look at my AS400 shot, my "Build date" is 28/3/16 and my "Plwk" is 15. I know that my dealer told me that it came out of week 15 which was the week ending 15/4/16 and it got booked on the boat on 11/4/16, loaded on to the boat on the 18th and billed to Porsche Cars Australia on 19th.

This tallies up with week 15, not week 13 (28/3/16). So I don't think your stated build date is correct based on my car's details and meaning its sat around for a few weeks unaccounted for.

James88 06-03-2016 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342860)
I think the build date on your AS400 screen shot isn't the actual build date, only the first date allocated for it.

When I look at my AS400 shot, my "Build date" is 28/3/16 and my "Plwk" is 15. I know that my dealer told me that it came out of week 15 which was the week ending 15/4/16 and it got booked on the boat on 11/4/16, loaded on to the boat on the 18th and billed to Porsche Cars Australia on 19th.

This tallies up with week 15, not week 13 (28/3/16). So I don't think your stated build date is correct based on my car's details and meaning its sat around for a few weeks unaccounted for.

Nice bit of info and thanks for explaining.

Edit; My Port delivery date changed in as many days, first it was 10th then 11th and now 12th of July.

Quack 06-03-2016 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342757)
Week 23 is next week. So I'd say it hasn't come out of build yet.

My dealer was showing me last night where they can enquire as to what stage of the build it is at.

Thanks mate, that makes sense. I'll keep checking, but won't panic just yet :)

NBTBRV8 06-03-2016 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13342874)
Nice bit of info and thanks for explaining.

Edit; My Port delivery date changed in as many days, first it was 10th then 11th and now 12th of July.

It looks like the Faust is late leaving, so it will keep on blowing out until it does depart Zeebrugge.

James88 06-03-2016 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13342902)
It looks like the Faust is late leaving, so it will keep on blowing out until it does depart Zeebrugge.

Yes, at least 2 days stop over, maybe mechanical issues with the boat.

NBTBRV8 06-05-2016 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13342930)
Yes, at least 2 days stop over, maybe mechanical issues with the boat.

I see you are up and running now James. Got your Sat Nav subscription on Marine Traffic now? :corn:

V-GT400 06-05-2016 02:32 AM

Regarding wrapping, my car is white and I have had the full front including "A" pillars, sills up to the panel join behind the scoop, and small strips behind the rear wheels, done in Racewrap Pro that Shane says will not yellow. He has experience with a number of products and he is confident that the material he is using currently will not yellow.
We did not do any disassembly work to wrap into the panel joins as I consider the film is sacrificial and expect I will replace sections at some stage. Also I did not want to disturb the factory build by pulling the car apart. We did however pop the headlights out to tuck the film in behind them, which is a very easy job.
I am very satisfied with the result and Shane was very particular about getting everything just right.

James88 06-05-2016 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13347617)
I see you are up and running now James. Got your Sat Nav subscription on Marine Traffic now? :corn:

Yes up and running, boat currently at Southampton. Having problems trying to sign up, keeps coming up with "fatal errors". No big deal.

NBTBRV8 06-05-2016 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13349302)
Yes up and running, boat currently at Southampton. Having problems trying to sign up, keeps coming up with "fatal errors". No big deal.

You need the Sat nav subscription for when it goes now the west coast of South Africa and when it crosses the Indian Ocean as well as the Aussie Bight.

Quack 06-09-2016 07:03 AM

My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)


Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!!


Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now to watch it sail my way :corn:

NBTBRV8 06-09-2016 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)


Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!!


Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now to watch it sail my way :corn:


Quack 06-09-2016 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13359223)

That's a big fat red ship :D

James88 06-09-2016 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)


Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!!


Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now to watch it sail my way :corn:

Congrats, time seems to pass slow waiting. Mine's scheduled to arrive at the port on the 12th of July. I had a call from PCM with a delivery date of 20th.

Quack 06-09-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13359290)
Congrats, time seems to pass slow waiting. Mine's scheduled to arrive at the port on the 12th of July. I had a call from PCM with a delivery date of 20th.


Thanks James. My car should be in Melbourne on 19 July, so hopefully I should have a delivery on 27 Jul 16, cross fingers! Sorta fits in with the Plwk 22 and 23!

Charliekay 06-09-2016 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13359290)
Congrats, time seems to pass slow waiting. Mine's scheduled to arrive at the port on the 12th of July. I had a call from PCM with a delivery date of 20th.


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13359558)
Thanks James. My car should be in Melbourne on 19 July, so hopefully I should have a delivery on 27 Jul 16, cross fingers! Sorta fits in with the Plwk 22 and 23!

How accurate is the 8 day delivery from arriving to port? My car is due to arrive at port on the 27th of June, so does that mean I should pick it up around 5th of July? I have never had a car deliver so quick after docking, but then again I have never bought a brand new Porsche before either.

NBTBRV8 06-09-2016 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13361048)
How accurate is the 8 day delivery from arriving to port? My car is due to arrive at port on the 27th of June, so does that mean I should pick it up around 5th of July? I have never had a car deliver so quick after docking, but then again I have never bought a brand new Porsche before either.

I was told by a Melbourne dealer it was about 8 days from day of docking to it arriving at their dealership provided that there was no customs or quarantine delay. But don't forget once it arrives at the dealer it has to go off for its PPI and that can take around 4 days or so.

Snowman. 06-09-2016 07:45 PM

Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.

FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too.

Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!)

Bardman 06-09-2016 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.

I will be in Melbourne the week of the 27th June if you guys want to meet up then. I'm taking advantage of being in Melbourne to get cargraphic headers and a tune installed by evolve. :D

Snowman. 06-09-2016 10:20 PM

^^ I'm keen for a set of those too Brad. Did you buy them from Evolve or bring them in yourself. (I presume you have gone for the 200cel long tube?).

I can do a catch up early that week (30th Fri/ 1st Sat I'm stuffed with EOFY ****).

Bardman 06-09-2016 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13361701)
^^ I'm keen for a set of those too Brad. Did you buy them from Evolve or bring them in yourself. (I presume you have gone for the 200cel long tube?).

I can do a catch up early that week (30th Fri/ 1st Sat I'm stuffed with EOFY ****).

I arranged through Evolve as I had a limited window in Melbourne and it would be expensive for me to stick around if the logistics didn't work themselves out. I haven't done the maths - is it economical to bring them in yourself?

I did opt for the 200cel sports headers. Originally was considering the 100cel option, but they are not roadworthy and it appears they don't last as long. Catless seems far too loud for daily driving - particularly around sleepy Hobart.

I am reasonably flexible in terms of catching up, but my car will be in the shop for at least Monday and Tuesday. I actually arrive overnight on the Ferry 24/25th, so could perhaps catch up on that weekend. When are others free?

James88 06-10-2016 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.

FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too.

Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!)

Hey Snowman
Do you mind letting me know how much you paid for your wrap and their contact details. Do they wrap it around the edges and does it have a reasonable gloss finish to it?

I have another daily P car and I'm pretty keen to catch up. I'd love to see your car. I'm free this Sunday morning and Monday, where do you live, I'm in Balwyn.

Snowman. 06-10-2016 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13362194)
Hey Snowman
Do you mind letting me know how much you paid for your wrap and their contact details. Do they wrap it around the edges and does it have a reasonable gloss finish to it?

I have another daily P car and I'm pretty keen to catch up. I'd love to see your car. I'm free this Sunday morning and Monday, where do you live, I'm in Balwyn.

James - yes they definitely wrap full around the edges. You need to pop the bonnet to see where the wrap ends for example.

Mine was done completely through Porsche Centre Brighton. Was $2300 inc. I know the deal through Shane which Chris got was $2,000 but you had to get the car out to Sunshine (I'm down in Aspendale).

I'm heading out with the Otium guys on Sunday for a run up to Macedon. We are meeting at the Lorbek Carpark in Port Melbourne at around 10am (cruise leaves around 10:45 but I'll be there from 10ish). It's a good spot to meet - it was where I was going to suggest we meet if we wanted to do a GT4 meet-up as well. Happy to show you the wrap job there on Sunday morning.

(Will be good general car porn as well. I think 80+ supercars are registered for the cruise).

Here's a pic from one earlier this year when I first got my car.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ab4181f211.jpg

Snowman. 06-10-2016 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13361889)
I arranged through Evolve as I had a limited window in Melbourne and it would be expensive for me to stick around if the logistics didn't work themselves out. I haven't done the maths - is it economical to bring them in yourself?

I did opt for the 200cel sports headers. Originally was considering the 100cel option, but they are not roadworthy and it appears they don't last as long. Catless seems far too loud for daily driving - particularly around sleepy Hobart.

I am reasonably flexible in terms of catching up, but my car will be in the shop for at least Monday and Tuesday. I actually arrive overnight on the Ferry 24/25th, so could perhaps catch up on that weekend. When are others free?

Brad - Sat 25th or Sunday 26th works for me if others are keen. My wife and kids are away so I have an easy leave pass all weekend. :cool:

Leong72 06-10-2016 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)

Congrats Quack....., Won't be long now!!!


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13362241)
Brad - Sat 25th or Sunday 26th works for me if others are keen. My wife and kids are away so I have an easy leave pass all weekend. :cool:

Shame you guys are in Melbourne. I'm in Sydney that weekend, would love to crash your party!!! And learn about what mods are available in Oz. Might be more feasible to import from Oz then the States.

Charliekay 06-10-2016 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13361669)
I will be in Melbourne the week of the 27th June if you guys want to meet up then. I'm taking advantage of being in Melbourne to get cargraphic headers and a tune installed by evolve. :D

Do headers work with the Sports Exhaust System? Do you still have the normal and sports modes?

Would love to hear your thoughts once you get the tune and headers done.

Bardman 06-10-2016 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13362398)
Do headers work with the Sports Exhaust System? Do you still have the normal and sports modes?

Would love to hear your thoughts once you get the tune and headers done.

Yes - the headers replace the existing manifolds, but not the sports exhaust which will continue to function as it did before. Should provide an easy way to modulate the noise if the headers significantly increase the sound. Feedback from others indicates the sports headers only increase volume by about 25% which sounds about perfect to me.

Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune.

Bardman 06-10-2016 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13362241)
Brad - Sat 25th or Sunday 26th works for me if others are keen. My wife and kids are away so I have an easy leave pass all weekend. :cool:

Sunday 26th AM ok?

Anyone else able to make it along?

James88 06-10-2016 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13362233)
James - yes they definitely wrap full around the edges. You need to pop the bonnet to see where the wrap ends for example.

Mine was done completely through Porsche Centre Brighton. Was $2300 inc. I know the deal through Shane which Chris got was $2,000 but you had to get the car out to Sunshine (I'm down in Aspendale).

I'm heading out with the Otium guys on Sunday for a run up to Macedon. We are meeting at the Lorbek Carpark in Port Melbourne at around 10am (cruise leaves around 10:45 but I'll be there from 10ish). It's a good spot to meet - it was where I was going to suggest we meet if we wanted to do a GT4 meet-up as well. Happy to show you the wrap job there on Sunday morning.

(Will be good general car porn as well. I think 80+ supercars are registered for the cruise).

Thanks, that's a good price, I'll look into it.
Lol...80 cars, there might be a few more now that this publicly posted on here. I'll swing past at 10am this Sunday, I'll be coming in a silver 996 Turbo coupe. I think from memory you have a blue GT4, is that correct?
Oh, they call me Jim by the way, I know it's a bit confusing as my forum name is james, but they wont let you change it, stuck for life.

I should be good for the 26th June but wont have my GT4 then.

EDIT; I know some nice twisty roads through to the east, I'm happy to lead if you're interested in an early start and finish, say meet at 7am in Doncaster and can come back as early as 11am or even stretch it out further.
Anyone on here is welcome, Ideally up to 8 or 9 cars usually works well.

O5C4R 06-10-2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13362437)
Yes - the headers replace the existing manifolds, but not the sports exhaust which will continue to function as it did before. Should provide an easy way to modulate the noise if the headers significantly increase the sound. Feedback from others indicates the sports headers only increase volume by about 25% which sounds about perfect to me.

Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune.


an aussie review would be awesome,

Charliekay 06-10-2016 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13362437)
Yes - the headers replace the existing manifolds, but not the sports exhaust which will continue to function as it did before. Should provide an easy way to modulate the noise if the headers significantly increase the sound. Feedback from others indicates the sports headers only increase volume by about 25% which sounds about perfect to me.

Will for sure share my thoughts once they are fitted with the tune.

Definitely looking forward to a review. The headers were something I was interested in, so hearing your thoughts would be great.

GAZZ 06-10-2016 09:36 PM

I have the CG sport header on.
The USA ones will fit but there is a fitment issue, so you need to tell them you will require the one to match your existing header part numbers.
I got mine from BGB.

Quack 06-11-2016 05:10 AM

Snowman, thanks for posting about the wrap organised by PCB, I'll be talking to them about this. $2300 seems like a good price (I had my Ducati 1098R done and love the wrap!)

Bardman, keep us updated on the CG headers and tune from Evolve Technik. I've been looking at my options - straight COBB Accessport tune; Fabspeed 450 package (tempting, very tempting, and John Gaydos is a very, very cool guy.... but having to import and finding someone to install is well mmmm and.... warranty...!), or Evolve Technik (left a message with them and no reply :grr:.... hmmm.... and again.... warranty....!)

Leong72, thanks mate, tracking the ship online is killing me! :)

(HURRY UP FAT RED W&W CARGO SHIP)

cp993 06-12-2016 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13361267)
Sounds like a few more GT4's are coming into Vic shortly. We should do a catch up one day - Chris we STILL haven't done one.

FWIW - I ended up getting my wrap done through PCB. Price was essentially the same as Shane quoted - was the full bonnet, front bars A pillar, headlights, mirror etc job - but meant not having to go out to Sunshine (they did it during a service I had done after doing 4 track days - they had the car for 2 days). As far as I can see the job is perfect too.

Also interesting - I have 2 mates who in the last month have placed orders for GT4's. Both getting September deliveries. I remember PCM telling me in March 2015 I couldn't get one! Thankfully PCB said I could (and I mean thankfully - I love this car. Looking forwards to taking it out for a cruise this weekend, and doing another track day on the 18th!)

Hi Snowy,

Just catching up with this sorry. Yes we absolutely must catch up. Will give you a call in the next week and see what we can do.
Good price on your wrap. It was Sunbury to get it done so even further than Sunshine and one of the reasons I haven't managed to get mine rectified as I just haven't had the time to get the car out there and back.

Speak soon
Chris

Snowman. 06-12-2016 08:27 PM

Sounds good Chris.

Jim - good to meet you on Sunday.

Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise.

Also interesting to hear on the weekend that PCM have 2x GT4 allocations available for Sept deliveries incase anyone knows someone who is looking for one.

James88 06-12-2016 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13369285)
Sounds good Chris.

Jim - good to meet you on Sunday.

Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise.

Also interesting to hear on the weekend that PCM have 2x GT4 allocations available for Sept deliveries incase anyone knows someone who is looking for one.

Yes good to meet you too.

Your car sounds amazing, I would not want mine any louder than that, its just perfect. That blue looks gorgeous in the flesh.

Super surprised regaring tune not affecting warranty, this doesn't sound right. I'm sure Porsche would not approve of it, I'd want it in writing if they did, you know they can always tell if it has been flashed.

Big turn out just as you mentioned, how was the drive with that large group of eye candy.

Here are some pics of the meeting point, if you dont want your pic posted, just let me know and I'll remove it.

This was less than half of the cars.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7300445161.jpg

Snowman and his hot rod.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d6b358161c.jpg


The porkers, mines the very 1st 996TT.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5661d7ffb9.jpg

NBTBRV8 06-13-2016 12:14 AM

A flash tune would invalidate warranty if something went wrong mechanically such as an over-rev. Headers would do too.

From my experience certainly when it gets to extended warranty, the dealers want the car back to factory specs, even down to the N rated tyres before they approve it. They have to take photos of the car to send to PCA too.

John@Fabspeed 06-13-2016 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13359215)
My car finally got loaded onto a ship! :)


Theben - arrives in Melbourne on 19 Jul 16!!!!


Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now to watch it sail my way :corn:

Dave that is FANTASTIC! Right around the corner :) I ended up buying a Cayman R I loved the GT4 so much, just couldn;t handle the price tag...yet haha.


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13365474)
Snowman, thanks for posting about the wrap organised by PCB, I'll be talking to them about this. $2300 seems like a good price (I had my Ducati 1098R done and love the wrap!)

Bardman, keep us updated on the CG headers and tune from Evolve Technik. I've been looking at my options - straight COBB Accessport tune; Fabspeed 450 package (tempting, very tempting, and John Gaydos is a very, very cool guy.... but having to import and finding someone to install is well mmmm and.... warranty...!), or Evolve Technik (left a message with them and no reply :grr:.... hmmm.... and again.... warranty....!)

Leong72, thanks mate, tracking the ship online is killing me! :)

(HURRY UP FAT RED W&W CARGO SHIP)

Thank you for the kind words, they are much appreciated :cheers: You know i'll take care of you as much I can on importing the package, and the install really isn't that bad. Heck if you comp the flight i'll fly out there and we will do it over a weekend together :rockon:

Bardman 06-13-2016 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13367723)
Hi Snowy,

Just catching up with this sorry. Yes we absolutely must catch up. Will give you a call in the next week and see what we can do.

Hi Chris - what about catching up with a few of us on June 26?


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13369518)
Your car sounds amazing, I would not want mine any louder than that, its just perfect.

At combined WOT and high rpms its plenty loud, but it could use a little boost at lower rpms. :thumbup:


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13369285)
Christian from Evolve was there on Sunday too. Interestingly he said the headers - even with the additional tune - would not void the warranty. I figured the headers alone wouldn't, but that tune would, but he claims otherwise.


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13369518)
Super surprised regaring tune not affecting warranty, this doesn't sound right. I'm sure Porsche would not approve of it, I'd want it in writing if they did, you know they can always tell if it has been flashed.

Evolve / PP-Performance (who they get their tunes from) actually offer a 12 month warranty on your engine with the tune (albeit limited to $15k or something like that).

In any case, I actually don't think there is an such thing as "voiding" your warranty. If you make a claim and you have after aftermarket add ons, the onus is on the manufacturer to prove that the add on caused the damage if they want to dispute the claim. However, if it did end up in a courtroom you have lost already (through your lost time and money) so I think its a decision that each individual has to make based on their risk profile.


Originally Posted by Snowman
Otium guys

I saw this reference and then looked at their website. I've never heard of them previously, is it worth joining?

Bardman 06-15-2016 09:23 PM

3 Attachment(s)
These just arrived at the shop! They are off now to get ceramic coated and will be fitted in 2 weeks time! :burnout:

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James88 06-16-2016 03:53 AM

Bardman,
You shouldn't post pics like that, its boarding on porn....ha ha. But seriously, that's a work of art.

Bardman 06-16-2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13379511)
Bardman,
You shouldn't post pics like that, its boarding on porn....ha ha. But seriously, that's a work of art.

Lol, sorry I forgot to add the NSFW tag. :)

Looking forward to seeing what they look like with ceramic coating.

James88 06-17-2016 08:43 PM

My ETA keeps changing, originally it was due on 10th July at port, then 12th and now it has just gone to the 14th. At this rate I'll be lucky to see it any time in July, might even be August.

NBTBRV8 06-17-2016 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13384629)
My ETA keeps changing, originally it was due on 10th July at port, then 12th and now it has just gone to the 14th. At this rate I'll be lucky to see it any time in July, might even be August.

Could be weather slowing the ship or berth availability at one of the ports.

76Vintage 06-17-2016 11:56 PM

Got one on the same boat... Boo

NBTBRV8 06-18-2016 12:01 AM

8 Caymans, 1 911 and 1 Spyder on the boat for Melbourne discharge by the look of it. Along with 1 911, 6 Caymans for Port Kembla. A heap of Mecans for all ports too.

My GTS arrived at the dealer yesterday, collection on Thursday.

Jim it would be interesting to see what they put on your compliance date for the build month. I came out of week 15, mid April, but the build date on the compliance is March, which was my original build date. However the shipping paint protection film applied to the car has a sticker on it saying March 29, so your build date is at the start of production, not end if you are crossing months.

76Vintage 06-18-2016 12:10 AM

What was the turn around time from local port to dealer?

NBTBRV8 06-18-2016 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13385008)
What was the turn around time from local port to dealer?

Other than Tassie, 7-8 days if everything goes well.

76Vintage 06-18-2016 12:21 AM

Anyone else asked or asking the dealer to show the car on a hoist for under body inspection prior to collection? Or is this considered ott?

NBTBRV8 06-18-2016 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13385031)
Anyone else asked or asking the dealer to show the car on a hoist for under body inspection prior to collection? Or is this considered ott?

That would be ok, as they have to do the PDI anyway. Just ask them to have it on the hoist for you to look at prior to collection.

I got my dealer to contact me as soon as it got wheeled off the truck and went to look at it then. But obviously you don't get to see underneath it.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psyikw6jyf.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psgmzcyhq3.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pskwssylwc.jpg

James88 06-18-2016 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13384974)
Got one on the same boat... Boo

Same boat as me? were are you located? Waiting just seems to take for ever doesn't it.


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13384991)
8 Caymans, 1 911 and 1 Spyder on the boat for Melbourne discharge by the look of it. Along with 1 911, 6 Caymans for Port Kembla. A heap of Mecans for all ports too.

My GTS arrived at the dealer yesterday, collection on Thursday.

Jim it would be interesting to see what they put on your compliance date for the build month. I came out of week 15, mid April, but the build date on the compliance is March, which was my original build date. However the shipping paint protection film applied to the car has a sticker on it saying March 29, so your build date is at the start of production, not end if you are crossing months.

That's a lot of Caymans, are they on the same boat as mine? Interesting regarding compliance date, thanks for the heads up. Your car looks awesome, nice wheels.

NBTBRV8 06-18-2016 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13385249)
Same boat as me? were are you located? Waiting just seems to take for ever doesn't it.


That's a lot of Caymans, are they on the same boat as mine? Interesting regarding compliance date, thanks for the heads up. Your car looks awesome, nice wheels.

Yes, same boat as yours. Copy your bill of lading in to a new search for those getting of at Melbourne to show up.

DR1VEN 06-19-2016 12:53 AM

Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:


1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia
2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia.
3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today.
4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks.
5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming.

NBTBRV8 06-19-2016 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13386995)
Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:


1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia
2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia.
3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today.
4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks.
5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming.

But how are you identifying GT4 VINS from standard Cayman VINS?

DR1VEN 06-19-2016 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13387000)
But how are you identifying GT4 VINS from standard Cayman VINS?


Last 5 digits. GT4 start from 88072 latest one loaded is 90412 (for Australian GT4)

IMOA 06-19-2016 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13386995)
Thanks NBTBRV8, that WWL database is really helpful. The ability to search up to 1000 cargo ID means anyone can dump all the GT4 ROW VINs (or indeed other models) into that search engine and we can see how many have come or are coming Down Under. Some interesting tit bits:


1. The lowest GT4 VIN delivered by the shipping line was to Femantle on 5 Jan 16 =first produced GT4 in Australia
2. The first GT4 delivery from the shipping line was another GT4 on 2 Dec 15 in Brisbane = first GT4 delivered in Australia.
3. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today.
4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks.
5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming.

That means a lot more than 60 in Aus currently as there's quite a few of us who got them in 15. Mine arrived in October and I was a couple of months behind Bardman and ...... I've forgotten who it was in WA.

James88 06-19-2016 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13386995)
. 61 x GT4 have been delivered by the shipping line into Australian ports as of today.
4. Looks like another 60!!! examples have been loaded in the last couple of weeks.
5. For GT4, that makes 121 examples now landed or coming.

I'm real happy for those that scored one including myself but the GT4's are not as exclusive as they originally lead us to believe. I was told 70 Aussie ones in total and now its already around 121, a little crafty by Porsche if you ask me.

NBTBRV8 06-19-2016 04:54 AM

The dual allocation buggered up the market for all concerned, they should have said that they "might" be getting a second allocation through, rather than flatly saying they were all sold out with no hope. Now there are going to be some cars unsold at the end of this, when people like myself couldn't get one in the lull and bought something else.

James88 06-19-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13387208)
The dual allocation buggered up the market for all concerned, they should have said that they "might" be getting a second allocation through, rather than flatly saying they were all sold out with no hope. Now there are going to be some cars unsold at the end of this, when people like myself couldn't get one in the lull and bought something else.

Totally agree with this, they really hyped the whole exclusivity thing up.

76Vintage 06-19-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 13387196)
That means a lot more than 60 in Aus currently as there's quite a few of us who got them in 15. Mine arrived in October and I was a couple of months behind Bardman and ...... I've forgotten who it was in WA.

Based on what I'd read and was told by various dealers in VIC the first and fully sold AUS allocation was 70 x GT4's. Incidentally when I was in NZ Continental cars had deposits for a further 11 cars with no allocations confirmed and that was Feb'16. In March'16 I got the impression (and a phone call from my dealer) that production had been bumped up significantly to cover some of the short fall which PCA mentioned was at the 140 car mark - so I'd anticipate somewhere in the middle at the least as it still seems some will miss out.

IMOA 06-19-2016 06:21 AM

It appears that there's 121 in 2016 so add to that the 20-30 in 2015 and that brings us to 140-150. Iirc the Cayman R for Aus was about 30? I'd be interested to see if the GT4 outsold the S in Aus, it can't be too far off.

DR1VEN 06-19-2016 08:14 AM

From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg


First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1?

Bardman 06-19-2016 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13387299)
From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg


First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1?

My last 3 digits are 583, where does that put me on the list?

Charliekay 06-19-2016 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13387210)
Based on what I'd read and was told by various dealers in VIC the first and fully sold AUS allocation was 70 x GT4's. Incidentally when I was in NZ Continental cars had deposits for a further 11 cars with no allocations confirmed and that was Feb'16. In March'16 I got the impression (and a phone call from my dealer) that production had been bumped up significantly to cover some of the short fall which PCA mentioned was at the 140 car mark - so I'd anticipate somewhere in the middle at the least as it still seems some will miss out.

When I placed my order in late 2015 my dealer said he had 6 others infront of me and the chances were slim to none. They were getting 1 allocation every couple of months. After bugging my dealer for weeks in March to get a definite answer I ended up placing my order for the C63s Coupe which I was also in line for. 3 days after I confirmed my C63s Coupe order I got a call from my dealer advising that I got a GT4 allocation. I don't think anyone had any idea that they were getting such a large 2nd batch.

Same as the GT3RS I guess, apparently they are still making them with allocations still coming through and builds going through to the end of the year.

76Vintage 06-19-2016 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13389019)
When I placed my order in late 2015 my dealer said he had 6 others infront of me and the chances were slim to none. They were getting 1 allocation every couple of months. After bugging my dealer for weeks in March to get a definite answer I ended up placing my order for the C63s Coupe which I was also in line for. 3 days after I confirmed my C63s Coupe order I got a call from my dealer advising that I got a GT4 allocation. I don't think anyone had any idea that they were getting such a large 2nd batch.

Same as the GT3RS I guess, apparently they are still making them with allocations still coming through and builds going through to the end of the year.

Yeah, sounds similar. I also had the option of taking on a GT3 RS for May'16 delivery which a customer had hopped out of in favour of the 911R. Didn't make WAF on $$$...! I tried...

Can't take anything away on GT4 it's undeniably a great car even at the 150+ onshore example mark and it didn't put me off knowing there was a second batch being baked and who knows what the 718 GT4 will offer. I do feel for those that did make alternative plans on the information Porsche initially provided. I sold my F80 M3 and bought a Mazda 2 until I had a solid yes or no or identified the better alternative within range.

The extended thinking is that if I'd missed on GT4 I can safely say I'm not a used car buyer and wouldn't have been interested in a hiked up price on an 800km example or car that's done several thousand kms and had a life -for me the car needs to be an x rated virgin fresh out of the box! But each to their own.

The resale I assume like everything else it'll drop like a bomb and factored that into my decision making accordingly. Guess we'll all be in that boat together and for those that play the long term strategy it might pickup.

Bardman 06-19-2016 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13389066)
The resale I assume like everything else it'll drop like a bomb and factored that into my decision making accordingly.

Given the tax we pay on cars I think this is a pretty safe assumption. :)

Snowman. 06-20-2016 01:12 AM

So a mate of mine went in to PCM on Saturday and placed an order for one for Oct delivery. He went to looks at the Agate Grey / PCCB one that is for sale on carsales, and ended up ordering a new one instead.

Interestingly the agate one that PCM are selling as an ex-demo is being sold below the initial delivery price.

NBTBRV8 06-20-2016 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13389226)
So a mate of mine went in to PCM on Saturday and placed an order for one for Oct delivery. He went to looks at the Agate Grey / PCCB one that is for sale on carsales, and ended up ordering a new one instead.

Interestingly the agate one that PCM are selling as an ex-demo is being sold below the initial delivery price.

No it wasn't ex demo, it was owned by a guy and was originally posted for sale on another website. Plus it was removed from sale this morning.

DR1VEN 06-20-2016 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13387381)
My last 3 digits are 583, where does that put me on the list?

Going by VIN sequence for the first batch *583 is Australian GT4 #7

FWIW, it arrived third in a group of 4 x GT4- same boat as Jim Richard's targa Tassie GT4.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2a53146fb7.jpg

So for Aussie GT4's

First 2015 batch: 19
Landed from second batch from end of 2015: 61
Enroute from the second batch: 60

Total landed or en route as of 17/6: 140

Certainly sounds like a lot- maybe that's why Aussie flippers are dropping their prices- the guy who initially listed his GT4 on at $320k- priceless! Certainly looks like anyone who wanted one got an allocation.

A similar search reveals 67 GT3RS landed or shipping but also still counting. The last RS was just loaded in BREMERHAVEN on 17/6...

Snowman. 06-20-2016 01:24 AM

^^ My mate that ordered the GT4 on Saturday was trying to get an RS alloaction but couldn't get one.

He's put a deposit down on the 991.2 RS and is getting the GT4 in between. Anyways - he was told the one there was ex-demo. Either way it was very low kms. Main reason he ended up ordering a new one was he didn't want the PCCB's. Interesting that it is now off the market - must have been a busy afternoon as he was test driving it at 2pm on Saturday!

NBTBRV8 06-20-2016 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13389245)
^^ My mate that ordered the GT4 on Saturday was trying to get an RS alloaction but couldn't get one.

He's put a deposit down on the 991.2 RS and is getting the GT4 in between. Anyways - he was told the one there was ex-demo. Either way it was very low kms. Main reason he ended up ordering a new one was he didn't want the PCCB's. Interesting that it is now off the market - must have been a busy afternoon as he was test driving it at 2pm on Saturday!

What spec has he gone with on the GT4?

Snowman. 06-20-2016 01:37 AM

Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.

O5C4R 06-20-2016 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13389257)
Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.

if he can change the spec delete the roll cage it is a waste of 10k as it doesn't even meet level 2 Cams, same roll cage can be sourced locally for under 2k, money is much better spent on the carbon buckets

NBTBRV8 06-20-2016 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13389257)
Agate with black, Clubsport, extra harness, Sports chrono, leather trim, carbon bits, digital audio.

Did they move much on the price of either car?

James88 06-20-2016 06:25 AM

It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.

Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg

DR1VEN 06-20-2016 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389435)
Was he trying to sell privately, which website was it on and what price was it at then, how long ago was it, do you have that ad handy?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f8b132c5e2.png

Carsales ad:

2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 MY16
"dealer demo"
650km
$259,000 drive away
VIC reg: AIG750
LMCT: 3140

Features Include :
- Metallic Paint
- Sport Chrono Package
- GTS and Alcantara Package
- Full Bucket Seats
- Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes
- Wheels Painted in Satin Black
- Centre Console Trim in Carbon
- Racing Yellow Seat Belts
- Sun Visors in Leather
- Storage Compartment Lid in Alcantara
- Dashboard Trim Package in Leather
- PCM Package in Leather
- Carbon Interior Package
- Door Trim package in Leather/Alcantara
- Door Sill Guards in Carbon
- Inner Door Sill Guards in Leather
- Black Bi-Xenon Headlights
- Light Design Package
- Stitching in Contrasting Colour
- Instrument Surround Upper Section in Leather
- Steering Column Casing in Leather
- Vehicle Key Painted
- Online Services
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee227e6aea.png

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f764290193.png

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f234149d0.png

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f6242f5eee.png

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1aa662a295.png

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4047c779a8.png

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...054dea1111.png

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3857d96e81.png

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8d99f70690.png

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b41bcccf83.png

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...108d84588b.png

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2014796942.png

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0f93acafdf.png

NBTBRV8 06-20-2016 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg

But your white one is on the boat, so how did you get out of that?

James88 06-20-2016 07:31 AM

A freind is taking my white one.

Bardman 06-20-2016 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389471)
A freind is taking my white one.

Congrats James - looks awesome. Will you have it this Sunday? Would be good for the two agates to meet up! :D

DR1VEN 06-20-2016 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.

Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1.

Fantastic- congrats. 918 seats and 918 brakes. Colour combo looks great- especially the interior detail. Awesome pickup.

That's certainly one unique way to avoid the last one month of waiting.

Snowman. 06-20-2016 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389435)
It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.

Oh, had the DME read out, came back with zero rev ranges, zero even in range 1.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ca5883c65c.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...892a1ad232.jpg


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8894c2a5fa.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f5c813bf9.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6300679845.jpg

Haha - nice one Jim. It's a great spec.

I'm sure one day you'll meet Paul who is my mate that looked at it on the weekend.

76Vintage 06-20-2016 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=James88;13389435]It was me who caused the ad on carsales to disappear, yes a bit of a bombshell decision. Agate is an incredible colour with the black wheels for the GT4, I drove it and was hooked immediately, much better in the flesh plus the those options and the price was too good to refuse. Its only a couple of months old. So I gave up my allocation on my white one and buying this one, they're doing a full wrap and darkest legal tint, will be ready next week. I really hope I dont regret this decision, I welcome others thoughts on this spontaneous decision.


Great looking package! Does it vary much from your white spec?

Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat?

cp993 06-20-2016 08:22 AM

Good on you Jim. Like Agate Grey it was a colour I considered when I specced mine. Very different spec to what you were originally going for....

AlpineR 06-20-2016 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13387299)
From the WWL database, there appear to be 19 x 2015 GT4 around Jim Richard's Targa Tasmania GT4 VIN (inclusive of Jim's). I've blanked out the last three digits of the VIN in case folks have privacy concerns.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a625c5b3da.jpg


First delivered off the ship was to Melbourne- officially #1?

Being a 981 Spyder owner, I'd love to know the numbers for them in Aus, can you help?

WAY 06-20-2016 09:43 AM

Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.

James88 06-20-2016 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13389482)
Congrats James - looks awesome. Will you have it this Sunday? Would be good for the two agates to meet up! :D

Thanks, no, car wont be ready, will have to wait for wrap and tint, I should have it by Thur the 30th. What time and were is the meet, I will be having a late night on Saturday and depends how I scrub up Sunday morning, could I have someones phone number. I'd hate to keep any one waiting.


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13389485)
Fantastic- congrats. 918 seats and 918 brakes. Colour combo looks great- especially the interior detail. Awesome pickup.
That's certainly one unique way to avoid the last one month of waiting.

Yeah thanks, the seats were quite surprisingly compfortable and those brakes just stop on a dime.


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13389512)
Haha - nice one Jim. It's a great spec.

I'm sure one day you'll meet Paul who is my mate that looked at it on the weekend.

I actually went there today with a friend thinking he might be interested in it and then it all turned around.


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13389518)
Great looking package! Does it vary much from your white spec?

Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat?

Agate one is almost fully optioned except for roll cage and harnesses, my white one very little options. PCM is using James from Invisible brass, I know PCB have their own guy as well, PCB & PCD have the same owners so they probably use the same wrapper.


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13389523)
Good on you Jim. Like Agate Grey it was a colour I considered when I specced mine. Very different spec to what you were originally going for....

Thanks Chris, yes very different specs but it is what is and I quite like it to tell you the truth. The only thing that concerns me is I'm giving up a brand new never driven one for a slightly used one with a few test drives by others. Still time to change back..lol

James88 06-20-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by WAY (Post 13389640)
Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.

I just saw this, thank you. What is AE? Was this your car !!!!!

AlpineR 06-20-2016 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389677)
I just saw this, thank you. What is AE? Was this your car !!!!!

AE = Aussiexotics

GAZZ 06-20-2016 12:36 PM

Guys,
The first delivered GT4 in Australia was to Perth.
That is my car :thumbsup:.
The week before Fathers day. Twas a good Fathers day ;).

Oh and that blurb in Christophourious about the first GT4 is WRONG :banghead:.

Just had to set the record straight....ha ha.

NBTBRV8 06-20-2016 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13389677)
I just saw this, thank you. What is AE? Was this your car !!!!!

http://aussieexotics.com/forum/porsc...41897.780.html

Charliekay 06-20-2016 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13389446)
Carsales ad:

2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 MY16
"dealer demo"
650km
$259,000 drive away
VIC reg: AIG750
LMCT: 3140

Features Include :
- Metallic Paint
- Sport Chrono Package
- GTS and Alcantara Package
- Full Bucket Seats
- Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes
- Wheels Painted in Satin Black
- Centre Console Trim in Carbon
- Racing Yellow Seat Belts
- Sun Visors in Leather
- Storage Compartment Lid in Alcantara
- Dashboard Trim Package in Leather
- PCM Package in Leather
- Carbon Interior Package
- Door Trim package in Leather/Alcantara
- Door Sill Guards in Carbon
- Inner Door Sill Guards in Leather
- Black Bi-Xenon Headlights
- Light Design Package
- Stitching in Contrasting Colour
- Instrument Surround Upper Section in Leather
- Steering Column Casing in Leather
- Vehicle Key Painted
- Online Services
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee227e6aea.png

Congrats mate, beautiful car.

One this I noticed is the painted key is yellow, I thought you could only order the painted key to match the exterior paint colour. The car has got the key to match the interior seat belt and stitching colour which is what I wanted to do with mine but didn't think it was possible.

James88 06-20-2016 07:37 PM

Thanks for all the replies, does anyone know if l can run steel rotors with these yellow calipers?
Just a thought, as l was thinking of maybe preserving the ceramics.

Snowman. 06-20-2016 07:51 PM

^^ Jim - there are some options.

This is one for example - https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9402...for-pccbs.html

GAZZ 06-20-2016 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13391210)
Thanks for all the replies, does anyone know if l can run steel rotors with these yellow calipers?
Just a thought, as l was thinking of maybe preserving the ceramics.

Why bother? You'll never wear out PCCB on the street. Unless your track hammering for 2 hours per week every week.

My PCCBs' on the Cayman S have done 70kms and still look like new. Almost zero wear.

James88 06-20-2016 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13391252)
^^ Jim - there are some options.

This is one for example - https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9402...for-pccbs.html

Thanks Andrew


Originally Posted by GAZZ (Post 13391429)
Why bother? You'll never wear out PCCB on the street. Unless your track hammering for 2 hours per week every week.

My PCCBs' on the Cayman S have done 70kms and still look like new. Almost zero wear.

Thanks, yes this is what I have found out. Ceramics are quite lighter so that's a plus in unsprung weight, they really felt brilliant.

Bardman 06-20-2016 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by WAY (Post 13389640)
Congrats on the car James! You got a very nice car at less than what it costs. I offered the car to the guys on AE but there were no takers. Don't worry, nothing wrong with the car at all and it was not thrashed before it was traded.

You were previous owner? Why did you sell?

DR1VEN 06-21-2016 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by AlpineR (Post 13389634)
Being a 981 Spyder owner, I'd love to know the numbers for them in Aus, can you help?

Sure but 981 Spyders are seldom spotted so gathering data to verify their VIN sequence is a little harder than GT4/RS. Instagram has plenty of Aussie GT4/RS as it seems every car obsessed teenager old enough to own an iPhone likes getting their spotted pic on Instagram (and maybe a few adults too!).

The only publically available 981 Spyder VIN I could verify is: WP0ZZZ98ZGS150250. Based on that, their sequence is between WP0ZZZ98ZGS150000 - 1999. This looks right as the US Spyder Registry thread leaves less than 2000 produced for ROW (ie not counting North America). Plus the sequence before and after these VINs return no results. So here you go!

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6fc8d562fc.jpg

*1524 is going to Port Kembla.


25 x Spyders up to today and as the last one was loaded over a month ago that might be it. I can do the search again in a month to see if there any others pop up but certainly looks like very low numbers compared with 140 x GT4 and 67 x GT3RS (and still counting).

PS: I've stopped blanking out VINs as they are publically available. If folks have a problem with that, please chime in. Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs.

NBTBRV8 06-21-2016 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13392081)
Sure but 981 Spyders are seldom spotted so gathering data to verify their VIN sequence is a little harder than GT4/RS. Instagram has plenty of Aussie GT4/RS as it seems every car obsessed teenager old enough to own an iPhone likes getting their spotted pic on Instagram (and maybe a few adults too!).

The only publically available 981 Spyder VIN I could verify is: WP0ZZZ98ZGS150250. Based on that, their sequence is between WP0ZZZ98ZGS150000 - 1999. This looks right as the US Spyder Registry thread leaves less than 2000 produced for ROW (ie not counting North America). Plus the sequence before and after these VINs return no results. So here you go!

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6fc8d562fc.jpg

*1524 is going to Port Kembla.


25 x Spyders up to today and as the last one was loaded over a month ago that might be it. I can do the search again in a month to see if there any others pop up but certainly looks like very low numbers compared with 140 x GT4 and 67 x GT3RS (and still counting).

PS: I've stopped blanking out VINs as they are publically available. If folks have a problem with that, please chime in. Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs.

Great work DR1VEN.

Bardman 06-21-2016 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13392081)
Based on this info though, would Aussie rennlisters be interested in an Aussie 9x1 GT3/RS/GT4/Spyder registry? This could also help confirm the numbers if people verified their VINs.

This would be great. Are you aware of a VIN decoder that works for Australian VINs? The one that gmaki uses only works for NA VINs (I tried it on mine to test).

James88 06-21-2016 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13391811)
You were previous owner? Why did you sell?

No he wasn't but his friend was, he owns quite a few top end cars and its typical of him to sell soon after purchasing. My friend bought a Meteor Grey GT3 997.2 that belonged to the same person, it had only about 900km and fully optioned, similar to my Agate GT4.


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13389518)
Seeing as quite a few of you are getting wraps, my question is how to have my dealer out East VIC (PCD) organise wraps as part of the delivery. Any advice I could impart to them or am I best to try to sort off my own bat?

Just spoke to James from Invisible car brass who's wrapping my car at PCM, he now uses Premium Shield Elite wrap. He said its way better than the others, its stronger, thicker, more durable and higher gloss finish.
http://premiumshield.com/premiumshield-elite/

James88 06-21-2016 08:47 AM

OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.

NBTBRV8 06-21-2016 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13392412)
OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.

So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.

DR1VEN 06-21-2016 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13392111)
Great work DR1VEN.

thanks... it was your link to WWL that you posted that makes it possible :cheers:


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13392235)
This would be great. Are you aware of a VIN decoder that works for Australian VINs? The one that gmaki uses only works for NA VINs (I tried it on mine to test).

See https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/vin-decoder/ to decode ROW (rest of world) Porsche VINs- the section for models after 1981.

A lot of the VIN stays the same for each model. The model (981/991) is digit 7,8,12. The factory is digit 11.

What changes is the model year- digit 11 and then the unique serial number in digits 14-17 (inclusive). These last digits are grouped for each model like GT4 or GT3RS etc.

After verifying a VIN, searching the surrounding numbers on the shipping database gives us the total numbers imported to Australia. The trick is to find all sequences- it looks like MY16 Spyder has 1 (like NA Spyder VINs) but MY16 GT4 looks like 2 (again, same as NA database) and MY16 GT3RS looks like 2. GT3 is more difficult as it has MY14 and MY15 and I don't know how many sequences in each. The more verified VINs, the more certain we are that all sequences have been found so it helps if folks can share any unidentified ROW VINs if we do this.

DR1VEN 06-21-2016 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13392412)
OK guys my cancelled white GT4 will now be available at PCM at RRP in around one months time when it arrives off the boat. This was mine which I cancelled to purchase the Agate one, the timing wasn't right for my friend to purchase as originally discussed. I have zero vested interest in this as my deposit was transferred to the other car.

Great result transferring your deposit! Any chance u can share the spec of the white car for rennlisters before it arrives?


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.

Tempted to walk on your GTS deposit at PCB and buy PCM's white GT4 that was for James88??? :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

DR1VEN 06-21-2016 06:54 PM

^^^ scratch that, I see you have taken delivery of your GTS. Sorry, confused with another Rennlister!

NBTBRV8 06-21-2016 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13393971)
^^^ scratch that, I see you have taken delivery of your GTS. Sorry, confused with another Rennlister!

I take delivery tomorrow, but I am not Vic based anyway.

Bardman 06-21-2016 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.

If you read what he wrote, he was able to transfer his deposit to the other car - no deposit lost. I still have no comprehension on how you were not able to do the same, let alone lose an extra 30k.

NBTBRV8 06-21-2016 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13394098)
If you read what he wrote, he was able to transfer his deposit to the other car - no deposit lost. I still have no comprehension on how you were not able to do the same, let alone lose an extra 30k.

Because our local dealer didn't want to stock the car, but wholesale it on. In a market like Melbourne they will be able to sell the GT4 without too much issue.

Bardman 06-21-2016 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13394148)
Because our local dealer didn't want to stock the car, but wholesale it on. In a market like Melbourne they will be able to sell the GT4 without too much issue.

Ok, got it now. From memory you had a very special spec which I guess would take time to sell and no doubt would sell at a discount. Still think they could have helped you out more to get into a gt4. It's not like you were going to the competition. In any case the gts got rave reviews also so you still end up with a special car.

DR1VEN 06-21-2016 09:57 PM

^^^^ Yep, I'm guessing the retail price of NBTBRV8's GTS with PCCB, optioned wheels and lights is pretty close if not in GT4 territory so the dealer's reluctance to take it into stock is pretty understandable- especially if the factory is still taking GT4 orders.

But those options do make that GTS extra special. From Chris Harris' conclusion on the new 718S Boxster:

"Despite the extra speed, I’d prefer a nearly new six-cylinder car from last year, but here’s the bit that will really stick in the craw of the opposition: even though Porsche has made the new Boxster less desirable than the old Boxster, it is still by far the best car of its type."

So a NEW six-cylinder 981 just the way you want it would be even better. Congrats NBTBRV8 and enjoy. Post some pics!

O5C4R 06-21-2016 11:03 PM

just got news my car has been built - now the 2 month delivery time - this will be the longest I have ever waited for a car: 10 months - so long my eyes have started to stray to other cars, only the GT4 picture thread has kept me faithful

Hazey82 06-21-2016 11:05 PM

Hi All

If anyone is looking for a GT4, I have one available. It is one of the last allocations (June build) and due for August Delivery. It is in NSW and you will be the first registered owner as the contract will be signed over to you. I'm an enthusiast and this was going to be my first Porsche (dream car basically) but the timing just isn't right for me and I've finally decided to let it go and hope that one day in the future I can pick one up.

Details are:
- White with Platinuim wheels (GT colour, perfect contrast combo of paint, wheels, tyre and red brakes)
- Sport Bucket Seats (not 918) See pic below
- Sport Chrono Package
- Steering/Gear in Leather
- Seat belts guards red
- Smoking Package (cleaner console)
- Passenger footwell storage net
- Floor Mats
- Fuel Tank 64 Litre
- Tints

If interested send me a PM and we can chat offline
Thanks

James88 06-21-2016 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13393960)
Great result transferring your deposit! Any chance u can share the spec of the white car for rennlisters before it arrives?
Tempted to walk on your GTS deposit at PCB and buy PCM's white GT4 that was for James88??? :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

No additional extras, pretty much stock.


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13393751)
So you lost your deposit?, as a matter of interest what ballpark amount was it? When I tried to move from my GTS to GT4 I was going to lose my deposit plus $30k +, so you might have gotten out of it lightly.

No I did not lose my deposit, used it to secure the agate grey one, so no financial disadvantage at all plus the reduced cost and bonus free wrap and glass tint.

They said they will not have any issues selling white one as there are no extra options, so its the starting retail price. Cheapest one available and its brand new.

Bardman 06-21-2016 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe (Post 13394649)
just got news my car has been built - now the 2 month delivery time - this will be the longest I have ever waited for a car: 10 months - so long my eyes have started to stray to other cars, only the GT4 picture thread has kept me faithful

Nice one. Out of curiosity, where have you strayed to? If you want a NA manual or even just a manual, there really aren't many options. My first non manual car was my last car - a C63 507 edition - I just wasn't satisfied with pulling paddles (I even half heartedly looked into converting that car into a manual). I will stick with a manual car as long as I am able to.

Snowman. 06-22-2016 12:08 AM

I agree Brad. I had the same issue with the R35 GT-R's.

It's also why if they do decide to build the 991.2 GT3 with an optional 6MT it will give me a great dilemma. I love my GT4 and the gearbox option was the key to me buying it - but it'd be even more killer with an extra 100HP.

NBTBRV8 06-22-2016 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13394748)
No additional extras, pretty much stock.


No I did not lose my deposit, used it to secure the agate grey one, so no financial disadvantage at all plus the reduced cost and bonus free wrap and glass tint.

They said they will not have any issues selling white one as there are no extra options, so its the starting retail price. Cheapest one available and its brand new.

Sounds like a good deal, the Agate car whilst not my preferred colour was a top spec, so we'll done.

James88 06-22-2016 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13394802)
Sounds like a good deal, the Agate car whilst not my preferred colour was a top spec, so we'll done.

Thanks, I would have never chosen Agate, did not appeal to me at all in photos. Colour samples and photos do not do it justice but in the flesh it really looks pretty amazing and suites the black wheels, I was never one for black wheels either but this combination really pulled it off for me.

Snowman. 06-22-2016 12:22 AM

My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5a&oe=580BA0CD

O5C4R 06-22-2016 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13394756)
Nice one. Out of curiosity, where have you strayed to? If you want a NA manual or even just a manual, there really aren't many options. My first non manual car was my last car - a C63 507 edition - I just wasn't satisfied with pulling paddles (I even half heartedly looked into converting that car into a manual). I will stick with a manual car as long as I am able to.

yeah not many competitors out there for a manual I agree, but have been considering waiting for 991 GT3 prices to come in under 300k

O5C4R 06-22-2016 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=Snowman.;13394821]My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.

Hows the macan for towing? was looking at a similar setup

James88 06-22-2016 12:53 AM

Nice package Andrew, towing in style.

Charliekay 06-22-2016 01:00 AM

Nice setup. Great tow car.

Charliekay 06-22-2016 01:01 AM

Any of you guys have a dashcam installed? Any recommendations?

Snowman. 06-22-2016 01:05 AM

[QUOTE=No Heel No Toe;13394866]

Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13394821)
My Macan Turbo is Agate with Black wheels. Agree the color combo works a treat.

Hows the macan for towing? was looking at a similar setup

It tows really well. It feels as good as my old R50 Touraeg does which I admit surprised me a bit.

Fuel usage goes up from around 11.5l/100 normal to around 17l/100 when towing the GT4 which is not too bad. (With cruise set to 115 on the Hume).
I really can't fault the Macan's. If anything their only fault is that the price of them makes you wonder why things like 991's are so expensive because you get a LOT of car for the $$$.

NBTBRV8 06-22-2016 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13394355)
Ok, got it now. From memory you had a very special spec which I guess would take time to sell and no doubt would sell at a discount. Still think they could have helped you out more to get into a gt4. It's not like you were going to the competition. In any case the gts got rave reviews also so you still end up with a special car.


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13394415)
^^^^ Yep, I'm guessing the retail price of NBTBRV8's GTS with PCCB, optioned wheels and lights is pretty close if not in GT4 territory so the dealer's reluctance to take it into stock is pretty understandable- especially if the factory is still taking GT4 orders.

But those options do make that GTS extra special. From Chris Harris' conclusion on the new 718S Boxster:

"Despite the extra speed, I’d prefer a nearly new six-cylinder car from last year, but here’s the bit that will really stick in the craw of the opposition: even though Porsche has made the new Boxster less desirable than the old Boxster, it is still by far the best car of its type."

So a NEW six-cylinder 981 just the way you want it would be even better. Congrats NBTBRV8 and enjoy. Post some pics!

Hijacking a GT4 thread, but it is a GT4 lite.

Unfortunately my ****ty camera phone over exposes Guards Red, but you get the idea.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pst0vt6all.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psgs6n9il6.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps627t15tg.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psj0emvn68.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pspzxrlsjq.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps70koklyt.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psnn1ufswm.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pssqdhguac.jpg

DR1VEN 06-22-2016 09:41 PM

^^^wow- very special GTS indeed. Manual, buckets, PCCB, sport techno, extra leather and cool seatbelts. The options on this one are right up there with James88 pretty much fully loaded agate GT4. :thumbup:

Are they coming with N1 P Zeros now? Looks like some thought went into those plates- echoes the official press shots. Nice touch.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0aace600a3.jpg

cp993 06-22-2016 10:03 PM

Great looking car and very good spec. Well done and a big congratulations

Chris

NBTBRV8 06-22-2016 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13397203)
^^^wow- very special GTS indeed. Manual, buckets, PCCB, sport techno, extra leather and cool seatbelts. The options on this one are right up there with James88 pretty much fully loaded agate GT4. :thumbup:

Are they coming with N1 P Zeros now? Looks like some thought went into those plates- echoes the official press shots. Nice touch.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0aace600a3.jpg

I specced it pretty heavily:

PTV + LSD
PCCB
Smokers pack
Homelink
GTS communication package (red stitching & carbon trim)
Entry and drive
PDLS+
Bose
Buckets
Dimming mirrors + rain sensor
Sports chassis -20mm
Technos + black paint
Leather steering column

Yes the plates echo the German press cars, on my 997.2 GT3 I had TGO911. Unfortunately they come on the N0 Pirelli tyres still. Not a good tyre by all accounts.

Charliekay 06-22-2016 11:45 PM

Beautiful car mate. Congrats. What a great colour, love the different shades in different light. :rockon:

O5C4R 06-23-2016 12:13 AM

awesome, that's how a GTS should always be specced

James88 06-23-2016 06:26 AM

Beautiful GTS , very tastefully specced out. Those buckets look like they recline, is that right? If they do, well that's a big bonus.
Congratulations, hope you get lots of bonding time. Funny, my wife said I'll probably sleep in my car when it arrives, I think she may be a little jelly.

NBTBRV8 06-23-2016 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13397831)
Beautiful GTS , very tastefully specced out. Those buckets look like they recline, is that right? If they do, well that's a big bonus.
Congratulations, hope you get lots of bonding time. Funny, my wife said I'll probably sleep in my car when it arrives, I think she may be a little jelly.

No they don't recline, the only things you can do with them is fold them forward (not that useful on a 981), and slide them back and forth.

To me they feel more comfortable than LWBS.

Bardman 06-23-2016 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13397020)
Hijacking a GT4 thread, but it is a GT4 lite.

Unfortunately my ****ty camera phone over exposes Guards Red, but you get the idea.

Looks great. You are not wrong on the phone camera, I thought it was lava orange at first glance...

Bardman 06-23-2016 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13397020)

BTW - you took a selfie here. Intentional? :D

NBTBRV8 06-23-2016 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13397870)
BTW - you took a selfie here. Intentional? :D

Yeah, I didn't bother editing it out as we are all friends on here aren't we?

O5C4R 06-23-2016 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13397872)
Yeah, I didn't bother editing it out as we are all friends on here aren't we?

of course, i gotta say that build is made for the track or targa, its a full on drivers car

sammyj 06-24-2016 03:30 AM

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Hey guys, thought I would introduce myself. Took delivery of my GT4 back in Feb. Carmine Red, full leather interior, silver contrast stitching and belts, lightweight buckets. Brilliant car. Absolutely loving it.

Some great info on here in relation to Aus allocation numbers. Seems as though most of you are Melbourne based, but not sure if there are any fellow Brisbane owners on the forum? Anyway, gratuitous pics...

O5C4R 06-24-2016 06:49 AM

Very nice SammyJ, i am drooling over your car, i have a CR coming in August, have waited so lonnnnnngggg

NBTBRV8 06-24-2016 06:49 PM

If anyone has a Carmine Red car with Porsche Entry and drive, I have a brand new Tequipment Carmine Red starter switch for sale that replaces the standard polished chrome item.

PM me if interested.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2d52dc77e.jpeg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...156a9c65f.jpeg

Snowman. 06-24-2016 07:44 PM

We don't have a button.... We have to turn the key.

NBTBRV8 06-24-2016 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13402558)
We don't have a button.... We have to turn the key.

You don't understand Porsche Entry & Drive. I know there is no button, those that have it will understand.

Charliekay 06-24-2016 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13402584)
You don't understand Porsche Entry & Drive. I know there is no button, those that have it will understand.

I think he means that the GT4 doesn't have entry and drive. :)

NBTBRV8 06-24-2016 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13402641)
I think he means that the GT4 doesn't have entry and drive. :)

The GT4 doesn't have entry and drive? I didn't know they were such poverty models ;)

James88 06-24-2016 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13402691)
The GT4 doesn't have entry and drive? I didn't know they were such poverty models ;)

I know you are joking but yes we are now poorer but happier people for it, GT4 is meant to be about basics, its all about lightness.


BTW my white GT4 sold within 2 min of my release, anyone here?

cp993 06-24-2016 10:42 PM

That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you!
C

DR1VEN 06-24-2016 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13402742)
BTW my white GT4 sold within 2 min of my release, anyone here?

Wow... great result indeed considering another "demo" just got listed in VIC with roll cage n buckets- great spec for track. Wonder how long that will last considering a similar example with roll cage has been listed on and off in QLD for a while and is dropping the asking price by $2k/week. Other lightly used ones seem to be lingering a bit- are we about to see a price correction on used GT4 in Australia?

NBTBRV8 06-25-2016 01:56 AM

This is the last time I will post GTS stuff here, but for those interested here are some better photos with the right colour contrast this time.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pszkqpgcdd.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psmeu7wd9r.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pslv6inage.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psxilumcoj.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...psxvdlhqir.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pso3nyjqoh.jpg

roders 06-25-2016 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13402691)
The GT4 doesn't have entry and drive? I didn't know they were such poverty models ;)

Hahah we cant afford to get parking sensors or reverse camera's either......oh sorry I mean we are not worthy :P :bowdown:

James88 06-25-2016 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13402904)
That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you!
C

Yes good news, if all goes to plan I'll be picking up this Wednesday.

Bardman 06-26-2016 12:58 AM

Jim / Andrew - good to meet you both this morning. Nice collection of cars showed up as well. Will post up initial impressions on headers and tune, hopefully Wednesday or Thursday.

Look forward to some more photos of yours Jim.

James88 06-26-2016 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13402904)
That's good news Jim. Two happy new owners and one very happy dealer :)
When is pick up for you!
C


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13405008)
Jim / Andrew - good to meet you both this morning. Nice collection of cars showed up as well. Will post up initial impressions on headers and tune, hopefully Wednesday or Thursday.

Look forward to some more photos of yours Jim.


Yes good to me you and your car Brad, your car looks good and very similar to mine. Yes picture will be posted.
Andrew, good to catch up and meet Paul who looked after my car on the Saturday test drive.

Here are a few pics from this morning.
Brads car.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2e95e56965.jpg

The polarizing RS and some of the other cars.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...422b3211b3.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2af3d15c39.jpg

Snowman. 06-26-2016 01:58 AM

Yeah was a good catch up. Paul wanted me to take him for a spin. I made him squeal like a little girl. Lol

I'll say it again - these cars are so much fun. :)

Looking forwards to your feedback Brad.

cp993 06-26-2016 02:51 AM

Sorry I didn't get to catch up with you guys today and meeting you Brad. Looking forward to hearing your opinion on the new headers!

C

DR1VEN 06-26-2016 05:22 AM

Great to see Aussie Cayman pics... even with that purple thing in the middle! :p Very nice :thumbup:

NBTBRV8 06-26-2016 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13403015)
Wow... great result indeed considering another "demo" just got listed in VIC with roll cage n buckets- great spec for track. Wonder how long that will last considering a similar example with roll cage has been listed on and off in QLD for a while and is dropping the asking price by $2k/week. Other lightly used ones seem to be lingering a bit- are we about to see a price correction on used GT4 in Australia?

This is at PCM:

http://www.porschemelbourne.com.au/U...bodyType=Coupe

Snowman. 06-26-2016 06:01 AM

That was on Carsales yesterday but has gone from there already.

DR1VEN 06-27-2016 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13405193)
That was on Carsales yesterday but has gone from there already.

Yep, taken off Carsales already but dunno if available as still on PCM's website?

A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while:

SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc
QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc
VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc
NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc

Admittedly the QLD seller is relisting due to a failed sale but price is also dropping AUD2k/week.

I'm guessing there really are a lot more GT4s than folks realise- especially as PCM have been taking orders as late as the last week or so (from Snowman's mate) and sold the fully loaded agate one to James88 under original list price. More shipping spaces for Aussie GT4 appear to be being booked too which takes the total beyond 140. Great for a larger GT4 driving community, not so great for any short term flippers...
:icon107:

Charliekay 06-27-2016 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13406799)
Yep, taken off Carsales already but dunno if available as still on PCM's website?

A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while:

SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc
QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc
VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc
NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc

Admittedly the QLD seller is relisting due to a failed sale but price is also dropping AUD2k/week.

I'm guessing there really are a lot more GT4s than folks realise- especially as PCM have been taking orders as late as the last week or so (from Snowman's mate) and sold the fully loaded agate one to James88 under original list price => really not as limited as first thought. More shipping spaces for Aussie GT4 appear to be being booked too which takes the total beyond 140. Great for a larger GT4 driving community, not so great for any short term flippers...
:icon107:

I know there were allocations still floating around as recently as a few weeks ago.

Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now!

DR1VEN 06-27-2016 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13406806)
I know there were allocations still floating around as recently as a few weeks ago.

Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now!

Uncommitted allocations really explains why used ones at premiums don't move- why buy used when one can get a new one configured just the way they want it?

Hang in there Charliekay... it gets darkest before the dawn. If you can't wait you could always do a James88 :D

Charliekay 06-27-2016 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13406836)
Uncommitted allocations really explains why used ones at premiums don't move- why buy used when one can get a new one configured just the way they want it?

Hang in there Charliekay... it gets darkest before the dawn. If you can't wait you could always do a James88 :D

Hahaha. Not happening. I have about 2 weeks for delivery and the car has been specced just the way I wanted it, I will find it hard to find a spec like mine. Plus if I found another car today I probably would get it the same time as mine anyways. :)

.dee 06-27-2016 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13406806)
Anyone here expecting a delivery in Melbourne in the next week or 2? 2 x GT4s are getting off a boat in Melbourne today, then the boat will come up to Sydney and unload mine along with another GT4. Not long to go now!

i'm pretty sure the second one that's coming to Sydney at the same time is mine.

Charliekay 06-27-2016 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 13407046)
i'm pretty sure the second one that's coming to Sydney at the same time is mine.

Awesome. What colour? Options? Which dealer?

.dee 06-27-2016 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 13407046)
i'm pretty sure the second one that's coming to Sydney at the same time is mine.

PCSS

White
LWB's
Clubsport
Harness for the passenger
Dynamic Lights
Dimming Mirrors
Interior LED package
Bigger Tank

Charliekay 06-27-2016 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 13407051)
PCSS

White
LWB's
Clubsport
Harness for the passenger
Dynamic Lights
Dimming Mirrors
Interior LED package
Bigger Tank

Nice. Mine is CMW as well w/ Platinum wheels. Do you know when you are expecting delivery?

.dee 06-27-2016 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13407053)
Nice. Mine is CMW as well w/ Platinum wheels. Do you know when you are expecting delivery?

I'm not pushing for it, i asked for wk 1 in August as I'm traveling throughout July. Also i need to figure out where to keep it as I'm running out of space.

a friend of mine has a wk 1 June build that he is picking up end of August from PCSS as well, looking at a few options to take the cars to EC in September

NBTBRV8 06-27-2016 05:22 AM

For those train spotters like me, ask you dealer to keep all the build tags and stickers off the car that they dispose of during the PDI.

Just a nice memento to keep.

Charliekay 06-27-2016 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by .dee (Post 13407062)
I'm not pushing for it, i asked for wk 1 in August as I'm traveling throughout July. Also i need to figure out where to keep it as I'm running out of space.

a friend of mine has a wk 1 June build that he is picking up end of August from PCSS as well, looking at a few options to take the cars to EC in September

Keep me posted when you're looking at going to EC though not sure if I would have done the run in by September.

Bardman 06-27-2016 09:04 AM

4 Attachment(s)
Cargraphic sports headers with ceramic coating. Hopefully going on tomorrow / Wednesday!

Attachment 1355956

Attachment 1355957

Attachment 1355958

Attachment 1355959

O5C4R 06-27-2016 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13407192)
Cargraphic sports headers with ceramic coating. Hopefully going on tomorrow / Wednesday!

very cool, is the ceramic coating for the heat or HP

Bardman 06-27-2016 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe (Post 13407245)
very cool, is the ceramic coating for the heat or HP

Both, as one relates to the other. Having said that, the main reason I got them is heat, as I think the HP gains are not significant.

The theory is that the exhaust gases stay hotter and faster flowing as they are more insulated from the outside air temps. Additionally as the heat is retained less gets up into the engine bay leading to heat soak and affecting air intake temps.

Shakenbake melted some wiring on his naked headers (I think mostly due to cable management issues), so I didn't want to take any chances and I don't really want to revisit the work once its done. Do it properly and don't worry about it was my thinking.

O5C4R 06-27-2016 09:59 AM

awesome, if its successful i am going to copy you :burnout:

Charliekay 06-27-2016 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by No Heel No Toe (Post 13407280)
awesome, if its successful i am going to copy you :burnout:

x2. Looking forward to the review.

cp993 06-27-2016 07:25 PM

They Look great Brad. Very much looking forward to hearing your report once they are fitted. :)

C

NBTBRV8 06-27-2016 07:28 PM

Brad,

The only real way to check it is to put the car on a dyno for before and after results. Do you plan on doing that?

James88 06-28-2016 05:53 AM

looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !!

cp993 06-28-2016 05:57 AM

Congratulations Jim! No sleep tonight :) weather looks like being kind too....

James88 06-28-2016 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13409893)
Congratulations Jim! No sleep tonight :) weather looks like being kind too....

Thanks Chris, yes no sleep tonight and I'm taking the long way home. Almost everyone of my friends offered to drive me in, its great to get their support.

cp993 06-28-2016 06:13 AM

Ann and I caught the train in :)

James88 06-28-2016 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13409901)
Ann and I caught the train in :)

Hope it was an express :cool:

cp993 06-28-2016 06:20 AM

Funnily enough when the train got to Moorabbin we had to get off and catch a bus to caul field and then back on the train due to crossing works. The dealer found out we were on a bus and offered to collect us. Said don't worry it's all part of the experience and adventure :) much quicker and more pleasant drive home....

Bardman 06-28-2016 07:45 AM

Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13408838)
Brad,

The only real way to check it is to put the car on a dyno for before and after results. Do you plan on doing that?

Yes, before dyno has been done. I dont have the results myself yet, but will post up all the results when I have them. If all goes to plan I will have:

- Dyno of stock car
- Dyno of car with sports headers only
- Dyno of car with sports headers and tune

Bardman 06-28-2016 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13409889)
looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !!

Enjoy Jim. I can recommend the following procedure:

1. Sports exhaust on
2. Tunnel
3. Windows down
4. Right foot into the carpet

I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin:

PodAus 06-28-2016 08:49 AM

Good luck with the delivery Jim... Great car with great colour combo... Make sure you leave two big licorice straps in the PCM driveway on the way out...:nono::D

James88 06-28-2016 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13409950)
Enjoy Jim. I can recommend the following procedure:

1. Sports exhaust on
2. Tunnel
3. Windows down
4. Right foot into the carpet

I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin:

Thanks guys, made a mental imprint of the check list above and below. :D


Originally Posted by PodAus (Post 13410015)
Good luck with the delivery Jim... Great car with great colour combo... Make sure you leave two big licorice straps in the PCM driveway on the way out...:nono::D


DR1VEN 06-28-2016 09:23 AM

Congrats James. Pics or it didn't happen! :D

Charliekay 06-28-2016 10:05 AM

Congrats mate, you must be excited, but don't forget the pics :cool:

NBTBRV8 06-28-2016 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13409950)
Enjoy Jim. I can recommend the following procedure:

1. Sports exhaust on
2. Tunnel
3. Windows down
4. Right foot into the carpet

I was genuinely shocked the first time I did this. :evilgrin:

Great, I am interested to see how it pans out.

Quack 06-28-2016 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13409889)
looks awesome Brad, looking forward to your impressions.
BTW my car is on schedule for pick up tomorrow at 9am, yoohoo !!

Congrats man!

Mine has just passed Cape Town lol

Snowman. 06-29-2016 12:34 AM

Anyone local interested in some 19's for their car. I'm currently looking at putting together a small GB on some 19" Forgeline GA1R's


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b65adc1f8e.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ec78e2501.jpg

Tilpa 06-29-2016 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13409945)
Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:



Yes, before dyno has been done. I dont have the results myself yet, but will post up all the results when I have them. If all goes to plan I will have:

- Dyno of stock car
- Dyno of car with sports headers only
- Dyno of car with sports headers and tune

Would be very interested to hear about the dyno results and your impressions on the sound Bardman

James88 06-29-2016 07:57 AM

Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep.

Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece.

I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one.

Here are some phone pics.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg

Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg

Quack 06-29-2016 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep.

Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece.

I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one.

Here are some phone pics.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg

Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg

Sweet lookin' ride mate! Those PCCBs pop against the black wheels! Just awesome! Well done :)

Quack 06-29-2016 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13412600)
Anyone local interested in some 19's for their car. I'm currently looking at putting together a small GB on some 19" Forgeline GA1R's


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b65adc1f8e.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ec78e2501.jpg

Aaargh! Stop me thinking about spending more money :D

Then again those Forgelines with some RE71Rs would be just the thing for track days. Do the Forgelines require much neg camber to fit?

Charliekay 06-29-2016 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep.

Car is really amazing to drive, it would have to be one of the best cars I have driven, hats off to Porsche for producing a masterpiece.

I'm struggling to judge distance while reversing because I'm so used reverse senses in all other cars and this car doesn't have one plus the domed mirror doesn't help. It was impossible to park in a tight spot in my garage where my 996TT was easy with sensor, I had to call my son to help guide me in. I might have to look into an aftermarket one.

Here are some phone pics.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a73a341863.jpg


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d4c4413045.jpg


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b406e80509.jpg

Tucked away for its 1st sleep in its new home.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3b8e4104b.jpg

Congrats mate, beautiful car. Colour combo is perfect.

Snowman. 06-29-2016 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13412955)
Aaargh! Stop me thinking about spending more money :D

Then again those Forgelines with some RE71Rs would be just the thing for track days. Do the Forgelines require much neg camber to fit?

RE71's are what we are looking at getting them for :)

As for neg camber - thanks to the Pioneering from guys like Shake'N'Bake we are speccing 19 x 9.0 +50 fronts which should be ideal without rubbing at the front (and we know 19 x 11.0 +45 work on the rears without issues with the toe rods etc)

DR1VEN 06-29-2016 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13412900)
Thanks for all the kind comments.
Congrats Quack, I know exactly how you feel as picked mine up this morning...not much sleep...

Here are some phone pics...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c0dbc09b1c.jpg

Congrats on joining the GT4 club. Morning pick up but not until evening for a few phone pics at the gas station?!? Presuming PCM gave you a full tank of gas, that sounds like a great delivery day! :thumbup:

Just looking at that interior it looks like there is an extra cow's worth of leather in there! Is it the highest spec'd GT4 in Australia? And picked up under original list price! Fantastic purchase. One very special car.

Jimmy-D 06-29-2016 10:10 PM

James88 - Car looks great. Love the build. Enjoy

76Vintage 06-29-2016 10:45 PM

Hi all, not sure if it's been reported yet but THEBEN has docked at Port Elizabeth ZA an hour ago. Inching closer to Australia!

DR1VEN 06-30-2016 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13415085)
Hi all, not sure if it's been reported yet but THEBEN has docked at Port Elizabeth ZA an hour ago. Inching closer to Australia!

Hey 76Vintage

Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232?

Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range.

Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go...


THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably <30 sleeps to go for you! :cheers:

NBTBRV8 06-30-2016 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13415589)
Hey 76Vintage

Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232?

Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range.

Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go...


THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably

US cars run a WP0AC VIN. ROW is WP0ZZZ

Charliekay 06-30-2016 03:22 AM

Hahaha. I can confirm this to the case. My VIN is within 150 of 190000 and it was unloaded at Port Kembla this morning, so plenty of GT4s after mine on the water.

Looking at WWL, I can see 55 GT4s in the 190xxx range.

Stalked the boat coming into Port Kembla yesterday arvo using the Wollongong Beach webcam. :D


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9f62cfe335.png

DR1VEN 06-30-2016 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13415594)
US cars run a WP0AC VIN. ROW is WP0ZZZ

Yup. After a quick exchange with gmaki, looks like North America and ROW VIN sequences added together give us more than 5000 units... maybe 5500 by the end of production!!: https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8852...l#post13392572


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13415597)
Hahaha. I can confirm this to the case. My VIN is within 150 of 190000 and it was unloaded at Port Kembla this morning, so plenty of GT4s after mine on the water.

Looking at WWL, I can see 55 GT4s in the 190xxx range.

Stalked the boat coming into Port Kembla yesterday arvo using the Wollongong Beach webcam. :D

Thanks Charliekay. Porsche really has ramped up production of Australian cars in the last little bit. The 190xxx GT4s loaded in June increased the total number of Aussie GT4 by about 50% - in just one month.

Haha... love the beach cam shot. Car should be just 8-10 days away?

Charliekay 06-30-2016 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13415614)
Yup. After a quick exchange with gmaki, looks like North America and ROW VIN sequences added together give us more than 5000 units... maybe 5500 by the end of production!!: https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8852...l#post13392572



Thanks Charliekay. Porsche really has ramped up production of Australian cars in the last little bit. The 190xxx GT4s loaded in June increased the total number of Aussie GT4 by about 50% - in just one month.

Haha... love the beach cam shot. Car should be just 8-10 days away?

Hope so. Really hope to have it next Friday, keep it for the weekend and drop it off for a full wrap on the Monday.

James88 06-30-2016 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13412954)
Sweet lookin' ride mate! Those PCCBs pop against the black wheels! Just awesome! Well done :)

Thank you

Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13414539)
Congrats mate, beautiful car. Colour combo is perfect.

Thanks


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13414890)
Congrats on joining the GT4 club. Morning pick up but not until evening for a few phone pics at the gas station?!? Presuming PCM gave you a full tank of gas, that sounds like a great delivery day! :thumbup:
Just looking at that interior it looks like there is an extra cow's worth of leather in there! Is it the highest spec'd GT4 in Australia? And picked up under original list price! Fantastic purchase. One very special car.

Thanks, yes full tank at dealer, a mate and I were driving around at night and we decided to pull into somewhere where there was plenty of lighting for another view of the car. Yes lots of leather and alcantara, funny my 9 year old son doesn't like the smell, he'll get over it but I love it !!


Originally Posted by Jimmy-D (Post 13414975)
James88 - Car looks great. Love the build. Enjoy

Thanks Jimmy, I have been following your posts with lots of interest. You said that you prefer the GT4 over your 991 GT3, I have driven one and I feel the same way.

O5C4R 06-30-2016 05:48 AM

mine is on that 27/6 boat :D

on another topic i couldn't buy RE71R's in oz, are you guys thinking of getting the wheels with the tyres fitted from the US?

76Vintage 06-30-2016 07:00 AM

[QUOTE=DR1VEN;13415589]Hey 76Vintage

Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232?

Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range.

Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go...


THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably




haha, stalk away champ! if you come close to the VIN on my Mazda then let it be known I'll be doubling security! You are correct on GT4 VIN range.

GT4 still not quite at Toyota Corolla numbers but let's give it time..! :p I assume in the back of our minds at some stage we've probably all speculated a final number for the 981 GT4? Are we calling it a nice round 1000 x GT4s in AUS by the end of the year? :) I'll eat my undies if my local used car yard has one on the lot with a "low km" sign on it...!

It would seem that a few more cars nationwide will impact things like club day attendance, spare parts, detailing and paint protection, dealership technical experience, and the elephant in the room being resale - which I think will be more influenced by a big fat 718 GT4 with a 4.0L and close ratio trans... arrrgh! or a 3L turbo and PDK option of which we'll all be accusing the GT division of caving in to peer and boost pressure... and in that situation there could be a few hundred 2nd hand GT4's for sale very quickly or none!

Totally out of curiosity I did ask my dealership about the suggestion that PCM in VIC were still giving new allocations on GT4's and having potentially unsold stock (as suggested on this forum a few weeks ago) and it doesn't totally stack up with the bulletin from head quarters which was to stop taking orders / expressions of interest in the hope of a further extension of production.

Apparently the said notification came through to all dealers in May - but hey... I didn't see it with my own eyes so who knows how true that is. In summary there was serious doubt a fresh punter could walk in from the street and plonk down a deposit and go through the entire process of getting an (immediate) allocation, configuring, having it lock out, and then getting a build date in October 2016 for example...

My thinking was a customer had backed out of a deal, remained on the books until a replacement customer came along. If it had not reached the lock out date then configuration was able to tuned to personal taste. Am I on the right track there? All positive for the dealer as they allocation and landed the sale.

Quack 06-30-2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13415589)
Hey 76Vintage

Not trying to stalk you personally but if you are looking at THEBEN then your GT4 VIN should be in the sequence from WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232?

Just asking coz that would be confirmation that the non-North American GT4 VIN sequence has entered the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190xxx range.

Including that range, total Aussie GT4 landed or shipping would now be 143 units and counting. Last 3 were loaded in Germany on 27/6 and by incidental accounts, quite a few more to go...


THEBEN is due into Melbourne 19 July... probably <30 sleeps to go for you! :cheers:

Hmm.. My car is on the Theben, but my VIN is in the WP0ZZZ98ZGK1899xx range...

76Vintage 06-30-2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13415747)
Hmm.. My car is on the Theben, but my VIN is in the WP0ZZZ98ZGK1899xx range...

Isn't that a Panamera vin??? :) Maybe it's a 4 door GT4 with the mera's GTS donk? hmmm...!

Obviously I'm only joking about that VIN comment above..! I'm inclined to say the VIN is what it is and trying to work out the number of cars based on the assumption of a sequential VIN range seems trivial.

It's clear that one of us is going to need to get on the inside and debunk a few myths... I'm on the P web looking at options, I do note there is a Motorsport Manager position going in Italy...

I should clarify that my GT4 is within the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232 range.

Bardman 06-30-2016 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13409945)
Stock headers are off, new ones should go on tomorrow. :burnout:



Yes, before dyno has been done. I dont have the results myself yet, but will post up all the results when I have them. If all goes to plan I will have:

- Dyno of stock car
- Dyno of car with sports headers only
- Dyno of car with sports headers and tune

Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(

Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good.

I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw.

First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin:

I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet.

76Vintage 06-30-2016 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(

Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good.

I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw.

First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin:

I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet.


Now that power gain is impressive!

Quack 06-30-2016 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13415757)
Isn't that a Panamera vin??? :) Maybe it's a 4 door GT4 with the mera's GTS donk? hmmm...!

Obviously I'm only joking about that VIN comment above..! I'm inclined to say the VIN is what it is and trying to work out the number of cars based on the assumption of a sequential VIN range seems trivial.

It's clear that one of us is going to need to get on the inside and debunk a few myths... I'm on the P web looking at options, I do note there is a Motorsport Manager position going in Italy...

I should clarify that my GT4 is within the WP0ZZZ98ZGK190087 to WP0ZZZ98ZGK190232 range.

Lol, I hope my GT4 doesn't have 4 doors! (the new Panamera looks pretty good though!). I'm pretty glad to see that Australia gets around140-150 GT4s!

NBTBRV8 06-30-2016 08:52 AM

Was that with a remap Brad, or still standard?

Charliekay 06-30-2016 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(

Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good.

I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw.

First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin:

I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet.

That's a nice gain, especially in the mid range. What are your thoughts on the sound?

Would love to hear more of your thoughts.

Snowman. 06-30-2016 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13415769)
Picked up the car tonight - worst weather to pick it up in, plus it was peak hour. :(

Based on a very brief spirited run after dinner, however, first impressions are good, very good.

I only have a printed out dyno sheet, the electronic one will be sent to me shortly, but the dip is completely gone. With headers and tune there's a 30kw gain in the mid range and peak gain is 21.5kw.

First tunnel sound experiment was interesting to say the least. :evilgrin:

I'll post up more once I have some more rounded impressions and/or I get the electric dyno sheet.

Well that answers that. Time to search the back of the couch for the required $$$

James88 06-30-2016 07:42 PM

Brad
That's very impressive power increase figures from a naturally aspirated engine. I bet its taken the sound and feel to another level as well.

DR1VEN 06-30-2016 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13415747)
Hmm.. My car is on the Theben, but my VIN is in the WP0ZZZ98ZGK1899xx range...

Oops, checked again- apologies, that VIN range is on the THEBEN too :thumbup:

Matches a GT4 so pretty sure it is not a Panamera! :D

76Vintage 06-30-2016 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13417810)
Oops, checked again- apologies, that VIN range is on the THEBEN too :thumbup:

Matches a GT4 so pretty sure it is not a Panamera! :D

haha :) dr1ven what build week was your GT4 - also on the THEBEN?

This morning I read an article in the paper suggesting that 175 GT4's in Australia is the final number. Unsure what the true the source of information was but that might line up with the speculation around what's landed and coming.

DR1VEN 06-30-2016 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13415694)
haha, stalk away champ! if you come close to the VIN on my Mazda then let it be known I'll be doubling security! You are correct on GT4 VIN range.

GT4 still not quite at Toyota Corolla numbers but let's give it time..! :p I assume in the back of our minds at some stage we've probably all speculated a final number for the 981 GT4? Are we calling it a nice round 1000 x GT4s in AUS by the end of the year? :) I'll eat my undies if my local used car yard has one on the lot with a "low km" sign on it...!.

When and which boat did your Mazda come in on? :icon107:
1000 Aussie GT4 might be pushing it!!! ;) Especially given that best guesses (and I do say guesses) put the revised worldwide production around the 5500 mark. Given that 143 cars have been shipped and production running to August, another couple of bumper months like June could see more than 200 Aussie GT4s total. But I reckon it will taper off a bit so should be less than that... only Porsche knows.


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13415694)
It would seem that a few more cars nationwide will impact things like club day attendance, spare parts, detailing and paint protection, dealership technical experience, and the elephant in the room being resale

While resale and uniqueness are bonuses, where its good to have a few more GT4s is to get critical mass for one make drive/track days. Generally speaking, previous volumes of GT3/RS make them too rare to get together like that down under. But with something like 53 track ready GT4s delivered or en route to Melbourne, that should make it easy enough to rally a small group of 8-10 like James88 suggested for a morning drive. A few more like 16-18 is enough to have a dedicated group at a Sandown track day. Would Melb folks here be interested in that? Porsche GT cars are made for the track!


Originally Posted by 76Vintage (Post 13415694)
My thinking was a customer had backed out of a deal, remained on the books until a replacement customer came along. If it had not reached the lock out date then configuration was able to tuned to personal taste. Am I on the right track there? All positive for the dealer as they allocation and landed the sale.

Total speculation but as a lot of guessing is going on here, I'd say that sounds likely.

IMOA 06-30-2016 10:29 PM

More importantly it makes the GT4 much more attractive to aftermarket suppliers to create specific GT4 wheel fitments, exhausts, remaps, roll cages etc

DR1VEN 06-30-2016 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by IMOA (Post 13417946)
More importantly it makes the GT4 much more attractive to aftermarket suppliers to create specific GT4 wheel fitments, exhausts, remaps, roll cages etc

True that- something that the 987 series Cayman R / Spyder sorely missed out on to the degree that is already on the market for 981 ... and so many shared parts from 991 series has made this easier too.

NBTBRV8 07-01-2016 05:03 AM

I got my car back from its PP wrap today, plus I also put ClearPlex on my windscreen again for full protection. Very happy with the results.

James88 07-01-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13417922)
something like 53 track ready GT4s delivered or en route to Melbourne, that should make it easy enough to rally a small group of 8-10 like James88 suggested for a morning drive.

Early morning drive sounds good, I really enjoy driving through the really tight twisty bits.

As a matter of fact I'm getting together for a drive and breaky with some friends this Sunday, we currently have my GT4, Cayman GTS, Audi R8, 3LCarrera, Suby WRX, a couple more might turn up as well.

2 or 3 more cars would be welcome if anyone is interested. Let me know if anyone would like to join in.

Meet at 8am in Mt Martha, I'll pm address on request.

Bardman 07-01-2016 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13418540)
Early morning drive sounds good, I really enjoy driving through the really tight twisty bits.

As a matter of fact I'm getting together for a drive and breaky with some friends this Sunday, we currently have my GT4, Cayman GTS, Audi R8, 3LCarrera, Suby WRX, a couple more might turn up as well.

2 or 3 more cars would be welcome if anyone is interested. Let me know if anyone would like to join in.

Meet at 8am in Mt Martha, I'll pm address on request.

Dammit, I'm on the boat now, about to head back to Tassie. Would be good to do more of these drives, its difficult to drum up enthusiasm in Hobart, but we do get the occasional drive day in.

Enjoy the drive in your new car.

I'll write another post on the headers and tune.

Bardman 07-01-2016 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13417554)
Brad
That's very impressive power increase figures from a naturally aspirated engine. I bet its taken the sound and feel to another level as well.

I was pretty blown away to be honest. I was not really expecting any peak gains (or only minimal) - was really looking to flatten out the dip and hopefully add some more sound, but it totally exceeded my expectations.


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13417402)
Well that answers that. Time to search the back of the couch for the required $$$

Yes it is. :D


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13417290)
That's a nice gain, especially in the mid range. What are your thoughts on the sound?

Would love to hear more of your thoughts.

Sound is awesome. Really puts out a lot of sound when you are getting into it, but is still very comfortable when just cruising around.


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13415802)
Was that with a remap Brad, or still standard?

Thats with the tune as well as headers.

In the next post I'll write a more detailed summary of my thoughts.

NBTBRV8 07-01-2016 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13418549)
Would be good to do more of these drives, its difficult to drum up enthusiasm in Hobart, but we do get the occasional drive day in.

I may have a bi-annual lap you can join in if you are an "enthusiastic" driver.

Snowman. 07-01-2016 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13417922)
Would Melb folks here be interested in that? Porsche GT cars are made for the track!

I'm always up for it. :cool:

Snowman. 07-01-2016 06:41 AM

FWIW - I know of a bunch of GT4 guys who have entered the Bathurst Sprint in Novemeber (including me). I'm also 95% in for Targa High Country (either just the tour or maybe GT Sports) as well.

Bardman 07-01-2016 06:49 AM

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Ok, so my thoughts on the Cargraphics headers and tune from Fitzgerald Racing (Evolve sister company).

To put it very briefly, almost perfect. I'll get to the almost part, but this is a fantastic mod for the GT4.

I still don't have the electronic dyno pic, so I just took a photo of the paper one so people can get a clearer picture of what these changes have done (apologies for potato quality).

Attachment 1355892

So, bottom line is stock power curve, next one up is headers only, and next one up is headers and tune.

Whilst the headers alone did flatten out the curve somewhat, the headers and tune has completely eliminated that mid range dip. You'll also notice that there is quite a lot of white space between H+T vs stock. You immediately feel this on the road.

Whereas the stock car feels like its strangled down low, the car now just pulls and pulls all the way through the rev range. You might think that a mod like this would make a car less civilised and harder to live with day to day - the complete opposite is the truth. Because you are not navigating up and down the mid torque dip (which you do constantly in street driving) the car is extremely easy and comfortable to idle along slowly. I even find myself running in a higher gear than previously when driving slowly as I dont have to keep the revs super high to avoid this "chokey" range.

So, some might be concerned that its all too tame. No fear of that. Plant the foot and it absolutely screams towards redline. It actually reminds me a little of the pull of my old C63. Of course it doesn't have anywhere near that amount of torque, but because you don't have the traction issues of the C63, it actually feels like you are applying similar levels of torque to the road. I'm probably overstating it there as I'm sure if you drove them back to back it wouldn't be as impressive, but it is an amazing feeling nonetheless.

What about the sound? Its really hard to estimate how much louder the car is now at full noise. My best guess is somewhere between 25 and 50%, but that is purely a guess. The good news again is that you have choices. With the sports exhaust button off, you can rev through the range and it doesn't sound significantly different to stock. Reasonably civilised, but still a bit noisy if you have the right foot into the carpet. Sports exhaust button on, and just taking it easy and again, the car is a bit noisy but not over the top. WOT in the high rev ranges, however, and it sounds like a motorsports car. It has a really rich sound (not at all spoilt compared to the stock sound), which really resonates under overpasses and bridges. You'll like it.

One thing that I didn't really understand before this mod was the claims by some tuning houses about the gains to be had by replacing the stock exhaust/mufflers with their own. If you have sports or race headers I totally get it now, and here we get to the 'almost' part of 'almost perfect' that I mentioned at the beginning. The stock exhaust, even with the sports exhaust button activated, does not actually keep the valve open all the time. It opens it according to the current rpms and throttle position (and maybe other factors?). So whats the problem then? Well because you have so much more exhaust flow due to the headers and tune, when the exhaust valve opens it feels a little like popping a cork. At around 4k rpms with only moderate throttle the exhaust valve opens and you get a blurt from the exhaust and the car literally takes off, there is so much latent power being restricted by the valve. You dont get this at WOT as the valve opens earlier, but at part throttle you get it, which is a little bit of a niggle for me, as at part throttle you want things to be smooth, not 'twitchy' as you navigate forwards and backwards over the 4k rpm range.

I have discussed this with the tuner, and they are going to look into a change that just keeps the valves open all the time with the sports exhaust button on. I think this will be the perfect solution, as you can still have the car tame if you want by switching the button off.

In any case, I'm confident they will sort this out. For some it may not be a problem, but for me this car is so close to perfect that it would be a shame not to address this little niggle.

In short a magnificent addition to an already amazing car.

Happy to try and answer any questions people might have.

NBTBRV8 07-01-2016 06:56 AM

So the obvious question is, what is the ball cost for what you've done?

Also can you reflash it yourself if the dealer wipes it with a software update, or do you have to take the car back?

Bardman 07-01-2016 07:03 AM

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BTW - applied some decals I bought online (Porsche on the wing as well).

Attachment 1355902

I think the design is right, but a light grey or maybe a silver will look better. I kind of knew once they arrived that they would be too white, but decided to try them anyway. :D

Bardman 07-01-2016 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13418566)
So the obvious question is, what is the ball cost for what you've done?

Also can you reflash it yourself if the dealer wipes it with a software update, or do you have to take the car back?

Roughly 8.5k all in (headers, ceramic coating, tune, fitment and dyno work). It took them some extra time as this was the first one they have done, but they wrote off quite a bit of their time against R+D also.

cp993 07-01-2016 07:15 AM

Thanks for the write up on the mods Brad. Seems like a really impressive change to make.
Pity we couldn't catch up. Next time you are in Melbourne yell out.

Cheers
Chris

James88 07-01-2016 08:21 AM

Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time.
I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after?

Charliekay 07-01-2016 05:33 PM

Great writeup mate, the headers and tune looks like it is definitely on the cards.

Any drone coming from the new headers at any speed/cruising?

IMOA 07-02-2016 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13418650)
Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time.
I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after?

On a dyno dynamics that's about what I'd expect, 20% would be more dyno jet or getting into hub dyno territory.

Quack 07-02-2016 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13418563)
Ok, so my thoughts on the Cargraphics headers and tune from Fitzgerald Racing (Evolve sister company).

To put it very briefly, almost perfect. I'll get to the almost part, but this is a fantastic mod for the GT4.

I still don't have the electronic dyno pic, so I just took a photo of the paper one so people can get a clearer picture of what these changes have done (apologies for potato quality).

https://i.imgur.com/JaFhXvl.jpg

So, bottom line is stock power curve, next one up is headers only, and next one up is headers and tune.

Whilst the headers alone did flatten out the curve somewhat, the headers and tune has completely eliminated that mid range dip. You'll also notice that there is quite a lot of white space between H+T vs stock. You immediately feel this on the road.

Whereas the stock car feels like its strangled down low, the car now just pulls and pulls all the way through the rev range. You might think that a mod like this would make a car less civilised and harder to live with day to day - the complete opposite is the truth. Because you are not navigating up and down the mid torque dip (which you do constantly in street driving) the car is extremely easy and comfortable to idle along slowly. I even find myself running in a higher gear than previously when driving slowly as I dont have to keep the revs super high to avoid this "chokey" range.

So, some might be concerned that its all too tame. No fear of that. Plant the foot and it absolutely screams towards redline. It actually reminds me a little of the pull of my old C63. Of course it doesn't have anywhere near that amount of torque, but because you don't have the traction issues of the C63, it actually feels like you are applying similar levels of torque to the road. I'm probably overstating it there as I'm sure if you drove them back to back it wouldn't be as impressive, but it is an amazing feeling nonetheless.

What about the sound? Its really hard to estimate how much louder the car is now at full noise. My best guess is somewhere between 25 and 50%, but that is purely a guess. The good news again is that you have choices. With the sports exhaust button off, you can rev through the range and it doesn't sound significantly different to stock. Reasonably civilised, but still a bit noisy if you have the right foot into the carpet. Sports exhaust button on, and just taking it easy and again, the car is a bit noisy but not over the top. WOT in the high rev ranges, however, and it sounds like a motorsports car. It has a really rich sound (not at all spoilt compared to the stock sound), which really resonates under overpasses and bridges. You'll like it.

One thing that I didn't really understand before this mod was the claims by some tuning houses about the gains to be had by replacing the stock exhaust/mufflers with their own. If you have sports or race headers I totally get it now, and here we get to the 'almost' part of 'almost perfect' that I mentioned at the beginning. The stock exhaust, even with the sports exhaust button activated, does not actually keep the valve open all the time. It opens it according to the current rpms and throttle position (and maybe other factors?). So whats the problem then? Well because you have so much more exhaust flow due to the headers and tune, when the exhaust valve opens it feels a little like popping a cork. At around 4k rpms with only moderate throttle the exhaust valve opens and you get a blurt from the exhaust and the car literally takes off, there is so much latent power being restricted by the valve. You dont get this at WOT as the valve opens earlier, but at part throttle you get it, which is a little bit of a niggle for me, as at part throttle you want things to be smooth, not 'twitchy' as you navigate forwards and backwards over the 4k rpm range.

I have discussed this with the tuner, and they are going to look into a change that just keeps the valves open all the time with the sports exhaust button on. I think this will be the perfect solution, as you can still have the car tame if you want by switching the button off.

In any case, I'm confident they will sort this out. For some it may not be a problem, but for me this car is so close to perfect that it would be a shame not to address this little niggle.

In short a magnificent addition to an already amazing car.

Happy to try and answer any questions people might have.


Nice delta on the dyno graph. I really like how the 4,800rpm dip is smoothed out. Is this an Evolve Technik package? or is it a headers/tune done by Fitzgerald's in house? How much all up was it fitted?

randr 07-02-2016 09:41 AM

So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.

Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline.........

Jimmy-D 07-02-2016 10:25 AM

Wow!!!!- great results indeed. I have my headers going on next week and also a valveless exhaust. Do you think the valveless exhaust would remedy the annoyance you have when the valves open?? I figured I would always hit the exhaust button so made sense to always have it on

Also - was this cattless??

O5C4R 07-02-2016 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13421223)
So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.

Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline.........

lol i note.... a small penis problem

James88 07-03-2016 12:57 AM

Had a great 1st drive day, its an amazing car that's for sure, power is plenty for me and its really lots of fun at any speed.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a7d326e888.jpg

This is a genuine original CS in pristine condition, probably worth in excess of 1/2 Mill$.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9540a77073.jpg

Bardman 07-03-2016 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13418650)
Brad
Great write up, I can really sense your excitement and how satisfied you are, well done. As Chris said we'll have to catch up next time.
I'm really surprised at the low stock power at wheels, I always thought you loose around 20% from crank to wheels but this equates to a larger difference, do you happen to have the torque figures, before and after?

Hi Jim, dynos vary quite a bit in their base results. The important part to focus on is the delta comparison between mods. With respect to torque, this wasn't plotted on the graph, but can be calculated using: Torque (N.m) = 9.5488 x Power (kW) / Speed (RPM). I might plot this in excel in some point just out of curiosity, but it will take quite a bit of transposing to get the curve right. :)


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13419950)
Great writeup mate, the headers and tune looks like it is definitely on the cards.

Any drone coming from the new headers at any speed/cruising?

I haven't noticed any yet. I had a 3 hour drive down to Hobart from Devonport yesterday and didnt pick any up. Will keep an ear out for it though and post back any feedback.


Originally Posted by Quack (Post 13421175)
Nice delta on the dyno graph. I really like how the 4,800rpm dip is smoothed out. Is this an Evolve Technik package? or is it a headers/tune done by Fitzgerald's in house? How much all up was it fitted?

Cost as mentioned below was 8.5k all in (headers, ceramic coating, tune, fitment and dyno work). Evolve and Fitzgeralds are essentially the same company (two shops are located next to each other and have common ownership and employees), just that Fitzgerald does all their Porsche work and Evolve does the rest. Headers are Cargraphic sports headers, coating done by High Performance Coatings, tune is from PP Performance (Evolve / Fitzgeralds are local distributors of PP).


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13421223)
So you gain roughly 15 RWHP across the power curve (on a real 300 to 320 RWHP car), the peak value is a typical tuner switch (and only occurs over 400 rpm) and you have voided your warranty. 9k for a voided warranty and a 15hp gain ..........;) You would have gained far more doing driver training.

Also I note the base run was done on a different day and the car wasn't run to the redline.........

A remarkably uniformed post randr. I really have to question the motivation here? Why would you try to make other people feel bad about money they have spent? In any case, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and tackle each of the points you have raised:

Firstly the chart is in kw, not hp. In the mid range, the 30kw difference translates to roughly 40hp. This is a massive gain in exactly the area I was looking for. If you read my comments below, I was not in any way looking for a peak gain, but got one of 22.5kw (30 hp). I have no complaints with this outcome, in actual fact this has far exceeded my expectations.

With regards to warranty, please refer to Australian consumer law. There is no such thing as voiding a warranty from modifications. In this case of a disputed claim, the burden of proof is on the manufacturer to prove that any modification has caused the damage, if they cannot, they must honour the claim.

I dont see how driving training will fill the torque dip that was annoying me on my street driving? I have zero interest in lap times or track prowess. If you have driven a GT4 you would know what I am talking about and why I would want to address it.

With respect to the dynos, they were done on different days as the work was done across multiple days.

At this point I should include a smarmy wink or sequence of dots, but I don't really feel comfortable playing down at the level you are lurking.


Originally Posted by Jimmy-D (Post 13421270)
Wow!!!!- great results indeed. I have my headers going on next week and also a valveless exhaust. Do you think the valveless exhaust would remedy the annoyance you have when the valves open?? I figured I would always hit the exhaust button so made sense to always have it on

Also - was this cattless??

Hi Jimmy. I think a valveless exhaust will exactly address the problem I am having with the stock PSE. Its the valves being closed choking back the power and then popping open at 4k rpms that is causing my issue. If you dont have any valves then I think you will completely avoid this. Will be interested to hear about your experience once you have everything fitted.

My headers are the sports headers with 200 Cell cats.

randr 07-03-2016 04:31 AM

I am not trying to make you feel bad, and I know the chart is in kw - I calculated the power out as HP (e.g. 1kW is 0.746HP). Yes you have managed to dial out the dip before variocam plus is fully active (did you ask your tuner to explain why that dip exists? do you know why that dip is produced by all NA Porsche engines? do you know how and why variocam plus works?). The actual real power gain is an integral of the area under the torque curve, you can't cant just cherry pick the bits you like (power is directly proportional to torque and rpm and thus its the area under the torque Vs rpm curve that defines the overall benefit).

The peak power is in effect a transient blip - for it to be more than that the whole curve has to lift in line with the peak - not locally lift. Moreover you need to see this in the context of GT4 dyno runs which vary from ~ 300rwhp to 320rwhp (on MAHA dynos that measure run down losses).

Anyhow if you're happy, I'm happy :) - however, I (and many others) would question the loss of warranty for what is in essence a relatively minor gain - good luck with Australian consumer law - this is what will happen if your engine goes bang. Porsche will say you modified the car outside of specification by changing key components including the ECU (and they will be correct), they will use these posts to prove you modified your car and you will attempt to prove some form of defect and will lose. Its been tried many times.

For reference I hold two CAMS I class licences - honestly, if you had put the money into high performance driver training you would have gained a far greater benefit. Believe it or not this is good advice and is well meant :) Apologies in advance for my curt delivery.

Snowman. 07-03-2016 04:41 AM

Except no amount of driver training is going to help improve the sound.

Which is the main reason I'm looking at getting headers!

Bardman 07-03-2016 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13422787)
I am not trying to make you feel bad, and I know the chart is in kw - I calculated the power out as HP (e.g. 1kW is 0.746HP).

1 kw is in fact 1.34 hp - you got the conversion inverted.


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13422787)
Yes you have managed to dial out the dip before variocam plus is fully active (did you ask your tuner to explain why that dip exists? do you know why that dip is produced by all NA Porsche engines? do you know how and why variocam plus works?). The actual real power gain is an integral of the area under the torque curve, you can't cant just cherry pick the bits you like (power is directly proportional to torque and rpm and thus its the area under the torque Vs rpm curve that defines the overall benefit).
The peak power is in effect a transient blip - for it to be more than that the whole curve has to lift in line with the peak - not locally lift. Moreover you need to see this in the context of GT4 dyno runs which vary from ~ 300rwhp to 320rwhp (on MAHA dynos that measure run down losses).

As you state, the benefit is the total area between the two curves. The area between these two curves is significant, and it translates to a considerable performance difference to the car. Having said that, I was not actually looking for this considerable performance increase (the car is fast enough).

What I was looking to do was to remove the dip that takes place in the mid range, and have achieved this (with no sacrifice anywhere else in the range). Again if you have driven a GT4 you would understand why. I have driven many different Porsches and none have suffered to the extent that the GT4 does in this area. IMO 8.5k is a small investment to achieve this, for others it may not be.


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13422787)
Anyhow if you're happy, I'm happy :) - however, I (and many others) would question the loss of warranty for what is in essence a relatively minor gain - good luck with Australian consumer law - this is what will happen if your engine goes bang. Porsche will say you modified the car outside of specification by changing key components including the ECU (and they will be correct), they will use these posts to prove you modified your car and you will attempt to prove some form of defect and will lose. Its been tried many times.

Lets agree to disagree on warranties (and also the minor gain). For information, the tuning shop includes a one year warranty on the driveline with the tune, but I would have done this even if they didn't. Everyone has different risk profiles (and ability to pay for any consequences), I'm very comfortable with this decision.


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13422787)
For reference I hold two CAMS I class licences - honestly, if you had put the money into high performance driver training you would have gained a far greater benefit.

You really dont read very well. I have no interest in track times, and driver training would in no way address my goal, which is to improve the mid range power delivery of the car.


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13422787)
Believe it or not this is good advice and is well meant :) Apologies in advance for my curt delivery.

Its not good advice because it does not actually address my issue, which you would know if you took the time to read what I wrote properly. It was also not curt delivery, but words delivered with knowing winks - an attempt to big note yourself at someone else's expense.

Some advice back to you, when you write something down in an internet forum try to think of how you would feel if you read what you put down in 10 years time. If it makes you cringe, don't post it.

Jimmy-D 07-03-2016 10:44 AM

I am not concerned about warranty when I mod which is going to be very similar These mods are really not too extreme and the engine coming from the Carrera S is pretty stout. Enjoy the heck out of it. My Dealership is actually doing my mods and mine are all coming from FVD which is as close to Porsche as you come.

If some one is against mods just do not read these threads- quite simple. There are threads I do not read nor participate because not inteested

James88 07-03-2016 07:26 PM

Whats the go with the GPS in our cars, they're are not that good, I used it twice and both times it took me off direct route. Ran my phones google maps at the same time which was reliable without any issues.

Snowman. 07-03-2016 07:43 PM

Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.

I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c32266cec1.png

James88 07-03-2016 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Snowman.;13423991]Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.
I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways.
QUOTE]

Thanks Andrew, what a great idea, where did you get it from?

Quack 07-03-2016 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13422670)
Cost as mentioned below was 8.5k all in (headers, ceramic coating, tune, fitment and dyno work). Evolve and Fitzgeralds are essentially the same company (two shops are located next to each other and have common ownership and employees), just that Fitzgerald does all their Porsche work and Evolve does the rest. Headers are Cargraphic sports headers, coating done by High Performance Coatings, tune is from PP Performance (Evolve / Fitzgeralds are local distributors of PP).


Thanks for that. 8.5K is pretty reasonable for the gains. I did leave a message with Fitzgeralds to call me back about zorst and tune, but they never got back to me. I will keep them in mind. So many different options!!!!

Snowman. 07-04-2016 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13423991)
Jim - I run one of these and Google Maps. It's a Belkin Cup Holder mount. The way the Cup holders have that little pop out means it works very neatly IMO.

I mostly got it to hold the phone for my lap timer when I'm on track but I find Google Maps is better than any car nav so use it as a preference anyways.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c32266cec1.png

I picked one up from a phone shop at Southland. I knew what I was looking for and just went in to all the shops until I found one that had it. From memory it was an Optus shop but I have seen them around in many of them.

76Vintage 07-04-2016 09:30 PM

This is a genuine original CS in pristine condition, probably worth in excess of 1/2 Mill$.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9540a77073.jpg[/QUOTE]

It's great to see one of these immaculate examples getting driven!! :bowdown:

James88 07-05-2016 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13426047)
I picked one up from a phone shop at Southland. I knew what I was looking for and just went in to all the shops until I found one that had it. From memory it was an Optus shop but I have seen them around in many of them.

Thanks Andrew


[/QUOTE]It's great to see one of these immaculate examples getting driven!! :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Yep and and he sure knows how to drive it.

Charliekay 07-05-2016 01:04 AM

So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?

I am a little eager.

cp993 07-05-2016 01:10 AM

Might be worth a call to your dealer as I think that would indicate its been handed over by Patricks who do all the customs and compliance stuff. Close now by the sounds of things.... :)

DR1VEN 07-05-2016 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13426554)
So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?

I am a little eager.

Nothing wrong with eager! :D Obviously it varies but as little as 2 days from past experience... from what I understand, the dealers do not know anything about customs until clearance is completed and transport to them is booked. GL

Charliekay 07-05-2016 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by cp993 (Post 13426564)
Might be worth a call to your dealer as I think that would indicate its been handed over by Patricks who do all the customs and compliance stuff. Close now by the sounds of things.... :)

My sales guy is on leave until monday so didnt want to bug him.


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13426616)
Nothing wrong with eager! :D Obviously it varies but as little as 2 days from past experience... from what I understand, the dealers do not know anything about customs until clearance is completed and transport to them is booked. GL

Thanks mate. Fingers crossed that it is no more than a week.

Snowman. 07-05-2016 02:15 AM

Chris I remember when our boats arrived and there was a strike on - can't remember if it was at Patricks or a AQIS - but it was torture!!

randr 07-05-2016 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13422851)
1 kw is in fact 1.34 hp - you got the conversion inverted.

I know, its called a typo


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13422851)
What I was looking to do was to remove the dip that takes place in the mid range, and have achieved this (with no sacrifice anywhere else in the range). Again if you have driven a GT4 you would understand why. I have driven many different Porsches and none have suffered to the extent that the GT4 does in this area. IMO 8.5k is a small investment to achieve this, for others it may not be.

Fair enough - but if you want mid-range torque - the answer is not going to be found in a NA Porsche. There is a reason 'the dip' exists and dialing it out does have a consequence. You are obviously comfortable with the consequences others won't be.


Originally Posted by Bardman (Post 13422851)
Its not good advice because it does not actually address my issue, which you would know if you took the time to read what I wrote properly. It was also not curt delivery, but words delivered with knowing winks - an attempt to big note yourself at someone else's expense.

As I said (previously) my advice was well meant. A large element of the enjoyment that comes from a NA car is how the engine behaves - the non - linearity in torque gives the engine character (hence the lumpy HP curve) - its part of the experience (as well as being a reflection of the inherent engineering).

I can understand why you feel "the dip" is a problem, however most modern turbo charged "performance cars" have flat torque curves from low- through to mid-range - which yield very linear HP delivery.

It takes a lot away from the driving experience e.g. the feel is similar whether you drive a Golf R, Focus RS, AMG or M3 (any difference being power/weight).

It begs a very real question, if you're not interested in track days or performance driving and you want mid-range torque, or feel its a problem, why didn't you simply buy a 991 turbo or M3/M4/AMG?

I have a GTS and the "the dip" doesn't hinder day to day driving at all, at least for me.

AlpineR 07-05-2016 03:52 AM

I am more than happy with my 3.8, both performance and sound wise, as such she will likely stay standard, as God intended lol. As a daily and non track car I think it's just right for me

cp993 07-05-2016 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman. (Post 13426650)
Chris I remember when our boats arrived and there was a strike on - can't remember if it was at Patricks or a AQIS - but it was torture!!

Absolutely was. we got hit with a perfect storm. first patricks went on strike then AQIS found some leaves on a car and made them all go through a cleaning process again but the cleaning area was being renovated and so only one wash bay was available. i think we were 2 to 3 weeks waiting :banghead:

Bardman 07-05-2016 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by randr (Post 13426671)
I have a GTS and the "the dip" doesn't hinder day to day driving at all, at least for me.

Exactly, and I have taken a direction that is right for me. Lets all move on.

NBTBRV8 07-05-2016 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Charliekay (Post 13426554)
So does anyone know what the time frame is from the car appearing as DELIVERED FROM in the WWL tracking to actually being delivered?

I am a little eager.

7-8 days to get to your dealer from landing if all goes well. Then the speed of your dealer's PDI, which will be ~4 days.

76Vintage 07-05-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 13426748)
7-8 days to get to your dealer from landing if all goes well. Then the speed of your dealer's PDI, which will be ~4 days.

and if you're on the east cost the boat could probably deliver direct to your door...! it's a tad damp people!
:cheers:

James88 07-07-2016 09:27 PM

I inquired about these wing extensions, lucky I was sitting down when I saw the price on a replied email from Scuderia car parts in the UK.
£880.00 = $1516 AUD Ouch, just for 2 little add on brackets. I reckon some of these suppliers must think we're made of money. I just thought I would have a better unobstructed rear view but at that price I'm happy to be looking at my spoiler.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07789c97b0.jpg

Jimmy-D 07-07-2016 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by James88 (Post 13434153)
I inquired about these wing extensions, lucky I was sitting down when I saw the price on a replied email.
£880.00 = $1516 AUD Ouch, just for 2 little add on brackets. I reckon some of these suppliers must think we're made of money.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07789c97b0.jpg

Men would pay a hell of a lot more for a penus extender so may be that is how they are looking at it :D

James88 07-07-2016 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy-D (Post 13434158)
Men would pay a hell of a lot more for a penus extender so may be that is how they are looking at it :D

Ha ha, you certainly have a point there Jimmy ;)

Bardman 07-08-2016 12:44 AM

Has anyone else in Aus tried this?

https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9318...l#post13434624

Prior to my headers/tune mod I tried this and didn't really notice any difference. I am somewhat puzzled by this as various US based people have suggested in makes a big change for them.

Is there a difference with our cars that changes the behaviour? We have all the some vacuum hosing so I'm surprised that making this change had no material effect.

Thoughts?

Quack 07-09-2016 09:32 AM

Went to Porsche Centre Brighton this morning to fill out some paperwork for my car (hopefully should pick it up before the end of the month) and spent ages chatting with Richard, Phil, and Michael. Great guys.

Got a chance to see a GT4 in the flesh for the first time. GT4s look better in real life than in the pictures I've seen of them, if that's possible - small, low, and wide. It really is a car that has no bad viewing angles and great presence :D

Anyhow, if anyone on the forum is picking up their GT Silver GT4 from PCB in the coming days, here's a photo of it. Kudos on going for the LWBS and Clubsport pack! Looks awesome :burnout:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2fea5a9074.jpg

Had a good look at a Macan Turbo too. Looks like that'll be the next car I get when I replace my MB A45 AMG! They offered me a test drive, but I thought test driving one and then having to wait 12-18 months to get one would be torture.

DR1VEN 07-11-2016 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by DR1VEN (Post 13406799)
A few of these used ones on Carsales have now been around a while:

SA- Yellow with full leather yellow stitch- AUD229,000 + orc
QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD236,990 + orc
VIC- Yellow- AUD239,998 + orc
NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD247,500 + orc

Well after 2 weeks, the SA GT4 at $229K has been removed from Carsales. QLD GT4 has gone up in price and NSW has dropped both settling around $240k. Might still be a bit challenging with a new GT4 just delivered off the transporter now listed at $235k in NSW depending on buyer preference for options:

NSW- White with GT2 seats, SC- AUD235,000 + orc <<< "new off transporter"
VIC- Yellow- AUD239,888 + orc
QLD- White with 918 seats, full leather red stitch, roll cage- AUD239,990 + orc
NSW- White with 918 seats, full leather grey stitch, SC- AUD240,000 + orc

Good luck all with sales- looks like 150 Aussie GT4 now delivered or on the water with the latest GT4 loaded on 5/7. Can't wait to see more on the street.

76Vintage 07-11-2016 05:24 AM

I have a source that did a bit of digging and mentioned the total number all up delivered to Australia and New Zealand would stand at 283 cars. Not sure what the split is between the two regions but that does include cars delivered in 2015, 2016 to date, cars on the water and the remaining cars queued or currently in production.

Having also seen the advert for the NSW car that was delivered on a transporter - I assume the advert is legitimate but the photos are not as they're widely available on Google image search and the interior was of a GT3 (last time I looked). Are you in the market for a cheap GT4 Dr1ven? :)


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