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Old 07-12-2015 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bardman
This car is equipped with a reverse gear.
Yeah, what's with that? Talk about feature creep.
Old 07-13-2015 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Backup camera?
You are looking at the wrong car. . .
I respectfully disagree, even for track rats. First, the camera adds practically zero weight, certainly less than many of the leather options that can be piled onto this car. Second, it's arguably even more useful on this car with its spoiler than on non-GT cars. And third, even at the track, if you have a roll cage or even a harness bar behind you, rear visibility will be further compromised, and if you're also using a HANS, you wouldn't be able to turn your head even if you could get a decent view out of the rear.
Old 07-13-2015 | 12:23 AM
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I hate to say it but I will be on of the higher option GT4's, currently at $102K and looking to add the alcantara sunvisor and painted spary nozzle.
I did opt for PCM as I like seeing the map as I drive as well. I got sports chrono as I did not like how the dash looked without it. I did not get the PCCB's as I will be tracking the car so was worried about replacement cost.

I do wish there was a reversing camera and no sensors either. I take them for granted in my other cars, will need to go back old school with this one.
Old 07-13-2015 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Just my opinion, but the dash display is a horrible place to be looking when achieving high acceleration values. Any iPhone can record that data as well to review after the drive (even better with Harry's Lap-timer iPhone app).
Very valid point, I was just curious if you need sport chrono for the in car display. Anyone?

Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Backup camera?
You are looking at the wrong car. . .
Again, I see your point. I too want to keep the car minimal. Actually, I have 0 comfort thingies at the moment (besides leather, and that too cause I love alcantara). I had some left over budget cause I went from PCCB to steel, so was debating between the 2 marginally useful options and I will still probably decide to get neither but wanted to make an informed decision regarding what each really gives.

Originally Posted by 4carl
Two options auto climate and CDR+.
I am not getting even those two.

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And before we get too side tracked here, my question was not what the ideal configuration for GT4 is or if there is even one. Just want to know what exactly those two specific options options get you.

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Old 07-13-2015 | 02:08 AM
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I think I may have one of the highest optioned cars around. ~114k or so

-PTS (voodoo blue) /black wheels
-LWB
-deviated leather with yellow
-brushed dark aluminum
-steering wheel stripe/yellow belts
-PCCB
-sport chrono
-CD-R +
And a few other minor options.

I optioned my car how I would want it. I keep thinking It's still a helluva bargain when compared to a 911.
Old 07-13-2015 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sunnyr
Very valid point, I was just curious if you need sport chrono for the in car display. Anyone?

And before we get too side tracked here, my question was not what the ideal configuration for GT4 is or even if there is one. Just want to know what exactly those two specific options options get you.
I don't believe Sport Chrono is required to see the Performance displays such as horsepower/torque and G-forces. The configurator description supports my guess.

I think dual-zone climate has been accurately discussed here, and elsewhere. As for CDR+, your original post suggests that you have a solid grasp on what it offers. PCM is the exact same head unit except it adds the map software (the Navi and Map buttons are non-functional with CDR+, which may bug some people) and on this particular car it subtracts SiriusXM and HD Radio, thus dodging the roof wart.
Old 07-13-2015 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jphughan
I don't believe Sport Chrono is required to see the Performance displays such as horsepower/torque and G-forces. The configurator description supports my guess.

I think dual-zone climate has been accurately discussed here, and elsewhere. As for CDR+, your original post suggests that you have a solid grasp on what it offers. PCM is the exact same head unit except it adds the map software (the Navi and Map buttons are non-functional with CDR+, which may bug some people) and on this particular car it subtracts SiriusXM and HD Radio, thus dodging the roof wart.
Jphughan, by the 2 options, I meant PCM and sport chrono (as in my original post). Not dual zone or CDR+. I know what those two get you and decided against both. But thanks for all your input, very helpful.
Old 07-13-2015 | 03:56 AM
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If I were you I would get the car the way YOU want it....
Your spending 90K (with tax and CA rip off reg), you are looking at 100K !
Get the car they way you want it
I got like 10K in options. I keep my cars a long, long time..
My iPhone is better than the Nav unit in the car...
but I am spending all this and not getting all the connectivity that PCM offers, to me that is crazy! I know the stereo in these cars a not the greatest but this is not a track dedicated car for me. I at least want a decent stereo..
As for the sports chrono, I bought that solely based on looks ( call that a stupid emotional buy) but I like the way it looks.
Again, I am spending over 100K on a car, I want to get it the way I want it.
In the end, you have to get what is going to make you happy, once you get the car ... and not seconding guessing,... why didn't I get this and that?
What some think is foolish, to others it's a must have....
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Old 07-13-2015 | 04:10 AM
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Sports chrono is the MOST useless. It came with my GT3. I've used it once in 4 years. Don't waste your money.

PCM i use all the time. i like to explore back roads and I like the display integrated into the car. But that's me.
Old 07-13-2015 | 02:05 PM
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Nothing dates a car faster than built-in GPS.

I have never had a car that had GPS built in and I was hoping the GT4 would be the first. When I sat in a dealer's 911/Cayman and played with the GPS I realized how clunky and obsolete the GPS was. It reminded me of a 10+ year old unit. I'll stick with my iphone that attaches and removes quickly with a magnetic mount. The $ I save I can buy a state of the art display/head unit but I probably won't even do that.

And for the folks that spent the $ on the Clock on the dash.. I mean Sports Chrono-- you must be in a different financial situation in life than me.
Old 07-13-2015 | 03:00 PM
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I have both Sports Chrono and PCM optioned, but would feel in the GT4, the PCM is the better option to have. Yes, the Sports Chrono is overpriced for what you are getting, but I always love some kind of analog time piece in my cars.
Old 07-13-2015 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Buteo
I think I may have one of the highest optioned cars around. ~114k or so

-PTS (voodoo blue) /black wheels
-LWB
-deviated leather with yellow
-brushed dark aluminum
-steering wheel stripe/yellow belts
-PCCB
-sport chrono
-CD-R +
And a few other minor options.

I optioned my car how I would want it. I keep thinking It's still a helluva bargain when compared to a 911.
Nice to see how well Denver is going to be represented in the GT4 Club
Old 07-13-2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joe12pack
Nothing dates a car faster than built-in GPS.

I have never had a car that had GPS built in and I was hoping the GT4 would be the first. When I sat in a dealer's 911/Cayman and played with the GPS I realized how clunky and obsolete the GPS was. It reminded me of a 10+ year old unit. I'll stick with my iphone that attaches and removes quickly with a magnetic mount. The $ I save I can buy a state of the art display/head unit but I probably won't even do that.

And for the folks that spent the $ on the Clock on the dash.. I mean Sports Chrono-- you must be in a different financial situation in life than me.
Having looked at E46 BMWs with navigation, I absolutely hear you on nav dating the car, especially given that PCM is already fairly dated already, and to add salt to the wound we're probably missing Porsche's CarPlay-compatible head unit by a model year or two at the most. But I just can't stand phone mounts, especially on nicer cars. I don't like the audio and power cabling they require or the literally "tacked on" look, and since I neither own nor have any interest in owning a phablet, I would find my phone's much smaller display significantly harder to use anyhow. If CDR+ were available without the roof wart-inducing SiriusXM, I might consider that, but even then I do actually like having a live map on the car for situations like driving in unfamiliar areas, needing to find a detour due to road conditions, or exploring new Hill Country back roads. The base stereo was a non-starter for me given that it lacks Bluetooth Audio and apparently has crappy resolution.

All that said, my wife travels a lot for work and recently bought a Kenu Airframe and Scosche USBC242M charger on my recommendation for when she's in rental cars that don't have navigation. She loves that setup since both of those gadgets are very compact and very high quality (Airframe grips well, charger supplies 12W simultaneously to two outlets), but even she isn't sure she'd want that setup on her personal car.

I suppose if the dated look gets really annoying, one could always purchase the double-DIN adapter from Suncoast and install a then-modern aftermarket head unit, though I still haven't confirmed that you wouldn't lose access to any car configuration menus by doing so. I know there's an instrument cluster interface independent of PCM for configuring settings, but there are also configurable settings in PCM. I just don't know yet if there are any settings that both affect aspects of the car outside of PCM itself and are not also configurable from the instrument cluster.
Old 07-13-2015 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Backup camera?
You are looking at the wrong car. . .
Hah! I was thinking the same thing.

And do you guys really mind that tiny, paint matched roof antenna? Seriously?
Old 07-13-2015 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Hah! I was thinking the same thing.

And do you guys really mind that tiny, paint matched roof antenna? Seriously?
I have the shark fin antenna on my E92 M3 and don't mind it at all (think it kind of looks cool, actually), but on a car this beautiful and this low to the ground, I think it stands out despite being smaller. Ironically I think it stands out MORE for being so small, kind of like a wart, whereas if they'd styled it somehow it might have looked a bit better. Not sure on that though. Anyhow, the shark fin on the M3 couldn't have been avoided unless I didn't even get iDrive, whereas on this car it would just be a reminder of a service that I'm not subscribing to because its bitrate has gone into the toilet over the last few years in the quest to squeeze more channels into a fixed amount of bandwidth.

(And yes, first world problems.)


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