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Old 06-18-2015 | 11:45 PM
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Just wanted to get a poll; how much over MSRP would you be willing to pay for a GT4? I might have an opportunity, but I am evaluating it financially. Any and all opinions are welcome.
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I wouldn't pay MSRP for one.

Much less anything over.
Old 06-18-2015 | 11:51 PM
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$0 because I feel like some more allocations will pop around the end of the year for winter delivery like the GT3 did in 2014, but if someone was willing to hand me $10k to takeover my order I wouldn't say no...
Old 06-18-2015 | 11:53 PM
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Please! Nobody is getting one for less than MSRP unless you are a very good existing client. Pay whatever you want for the car. You only live once and money doesn't go with you.
Old 06-18-2015 | 11:57 PM
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Only because you asked, I wouldn't pay 1 penny over MSRP. Good luck on whatever choice you make.
Old 06-19-2015 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FrstPorsche
Please! Nobody is getting one for less than MSRP unless you are a very good existing client. Pay whatever you want for the car. You only live once and money doesn't go with you.
+1. And unless you own the dealership. Most very good repeat new car clients understand these are limited allocations and gladly pay MSRP to ensure they get a crack at the latest and greatest every time. I was on the board of a major store owner and saw all the sales reports, including all the GT cars we sold.
Old 06-19-2015 | 12:08 AM
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Not a penny over MSRP. And paying MSRP for a car is already bugging me...
Old 06-19-2015 | 12:11 AM
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Zero. I paid a couple grand over for my 1M, but I regret it. Not because it wasn't a good financial decision- I couldn't have bought another new car that would have done better. Instead I feel paying over screws other enthusiasts, meaning everyone else here. It encourages dealers to order loaded spec cars with options no one wants, depriving real cars guys of the cars manufacturers try to make for them and that they deserve.

Both the dealer and salesman are doing very well at MSRP. I won't buy another car over MSRP, nore will I buy from any dealer that tries to charge over for a new car. If that means I miss out that's ok- there will be more. $.02.
Old 06-19-2015 | 12:36 AM
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$0. One could argue that MSRP is, to some degree, arbitrary (just as the selling price of basically anything else is) and that if Porsche had increased the MSRP by $x rather than the dealer marking the car up by $x, then a "$0 over MSRP" buyer would pay the extra in the former scenario but not pay that same extra in the latter -- and that therefore it shouldn't matter where the extra $x comes from, and instead buyers should simply decide what dollar value they're willing to pay, no matter how it's "accounted for". But my perspective is that MSRP is at least partially derived from what Porsche charges dealers for the car, and as such it already includes a profit margin for the dealer, so those who mark up beyond that just irritate me on principle, especially in situations like this where for most sales the dealer will have very little work to do other than submitting an order, and the car is unlikely to spend much time occupying space in their showroom/lot. Of course there will be exceptions, such as customers who avalanche their dealers with questions about the car and various options, change their spec 50 times, etc, but for the most part these cars sell themselves, so I think MSRP is plenty.

For me, I've already got enough to wrap my mind around given that I'll be paying MSRP (a first), for the most expensive car I've ever purchased (a first by definition), without being able to test drive it beforehand (also a first). Three major firsts for me all converging on this purchase is plenty without the additional aggravation of paying a dealer markup.

But if you want the car badly, and you've got the cash to pay over sticker, and the principle of paying over doesn't bother you (or at least doesn't outweigh your desire for the car), then why should what I or anyone else here would pay matter to you?

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I'm paying MSRP and wouldn't pay one red cent more
Old 06-19-2015 | 01:48 AM
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This may depend on the market.

I was able to negotiate a discount (got a few thousand off as well as a number of options thrown in for no cost). To be honest, I probably could have gone in harder, but when I was putting the order in I wasn't really convinced I would get one and if you want a sales person to fight for your allocation, they will naturally fight hardest for those where they have the biggest margin...
Old 06-19-2015 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FrstPorsche
Please! Nobody is getting one for less than MSRP unless you are a very good existing client.
False
Old 06-19-2015 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by otisdog
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+1

I'll repeat what said on another thread.

The myopic frenzy that is Rennlist is not reflective of the real world. Or much of anything, really.
Old 06-19-2015 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by otisdog
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
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I'll repeat what said on another thread.

The myopic frenzy that is Rennlist is not reflective of the real world. Or much of anything, really.
Originally Posted by Bardman
This may depend on the market.

I was able to negotiate a discount (got a few thousand off as well as a number of options thrown in for no cost). To be honest, I probably could have gone in harder, but when I was putting the order in I wasn't really convinced I would get one and if you want a sales person to fight for your allocation, they will naturally fight hardest for those where they have the biggest margin...
Unless I see proof, I call BS.
Old 06-19-2015 | 03:08 AM
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Depends on the car.

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