My driving impressions of the 718 GT4
#31
when I was 17 I had a Civic Coupé, the clutch in the 991.2 GT3 reminded me of it.
#33
So my takeaways from this comparison are:
- good but not great,
- improved but not significantly better,
- difference is similar to a mid-model refresh vs. a whole new model,
- performance and handling improvements can be matched with current model (981) modifications,
- good car if you're new to the GT4 platform but there's nothing wrong with the older model,
- older model is more engaging and "old school" vs. newer more sophisticated model,
- may want one in the future but can easily wait until supply, demand and prices drop.
And 50 percent more downforce with no increase in drag.
#35
It will be very interesting to see how much faster they are on track than the old one! I am looking forward to a re-run of the GT4 fastest laps later and into next year.
#36
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/r9ic0kea2h2c
#37
We already know how much faster it is on a number of tracks. The faster the track and the more down force comes into play, the bigger the gap.
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/r9ic0kea2h2c
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/r9ic0kea2h2c
#38
Great review!
No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.
With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)
That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.
But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.
With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)
That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.
But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
#39
Great review!
No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.
With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)
That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.
But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.
With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)
That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.
But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
#40
All very good points, however, if you were to go out today and buy a ‘16 981 GT4 versus a ‘20 718 GT4, the delta would be $30k to $40k. Granted you’re talking new versus used. The CPO ‘16 I purchased in February for $86k would have cost me $123k in today’s dollars with the exact same options. With about $6k in proven bolt on mods which I plan on doing, I will have a car with very similar performance to that of the 718 GT4.
Net, I find spending $90k - $115k in grand scheme isn't too different financially - if you're spending about $90k and ultimately find the 981 GT4 lacking grunt + worried about strut tower issues + having to do a bit of suspension work from the get-go, then spending a little more for the 982 makes the first-time squeeze financially worth the juice...as they say.
It's all relative depending on your purpose for the car tbh, and I don't think there's a wrong decision here (thanks Porsche!). Porsche's masterful pricing / analysis of market ensures you're paying for every bit of added "Porsche goodness" no matter your budget.