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Old 06-12-2020 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnsopa
If the 718 GT4 light clutch is like the one in my 991.2 GT3, IMHO it's awful compared to the clutch in the 981 GT4 and Spyder. Way too much assist in the new GT3 clutch. Feels overly springy.
when I was 17 I had a Civic Coupé, the clutch in the 991.2 GT3 reminded me of it.
Old 06-12-2020 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
when I was 17 I had a Civic Coupé, the clutch in the 991.2 GT3 reminded me of it.
Haha, I take it that is not a compliment?
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ocious
So my takeaways from this comparison are:
  1. good but not great,
  2. improved but not significantly better,
  3. difference is similar to a mid-model refresh vs. a whole new model,
  4. performance and handling improvements can be matched with current model (981) modifications,
  5. good car if you're new to the GT4 platform but there's nothing wrong with the older model,
  6. older model is more engaging and "old school" vs. newer more sophisticated model,
  7. may want one in the future but can easily wait until supply, demand and prices drop.
Yeah, I didn’t get that impression from his review. I heard him say the steering is more precise, the suspension is much improved and the motor pulls noticeably harder. Other than that, no difference...

And 50 percent more downforce with no increase in drag.
Old 06-18-2020 | 11:51 AM
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Funny how the 981 Spyder wasn’t enough for me to change. Given the additional improvements I’m now ready and am #4 on the list for a new one.
Old 06-18-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Yeah, I didn’t get that impression from his review. I heard him say the steering is more precise, the suspension is much improved and the motor pulls noticeably harder. Other than that, no difference...

And 50 percent more downforce with no increase in drag.
It will be very interesting to see how much faster they are on track than the old one! I am looking forward to a re-run of the GT4 fastest laps later and into next year.
Old 06-18-2020 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowy999
It will be very interesting to see how much faster they are on track than the old one! I am looking forward to a re-run of the GT4 fastest laps later and into next year.
We already know how much faster it is on a number of tracks. The faster the track and the more down force comes into play, the bigger the gap.

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/r9ic0kea2h2c
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
We already know how much faster it is on a number of tracks. The faster the track and the more down force comes into play, the bigger the gap.

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/r9ic0kea2h2c
thank you! Interesting how the new one has closed on the “old GT3”, a bit more torque, grip, aero and 10% less peak power! I cant wait to see how quick the new 992 GT3 will be!
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Great review!

No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.

With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)

That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.

But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
Old 07-12-2020 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Flacht6MT
Great review!

No surprise on lighter steering and clutch, as long as they're both balanced with the rest of the car, that's key for me. Also, as it's derived from .2 GT3, that's exactly why both are lighter than before.

With respect to "value", Porsche really is charging about $9k more (not the $15k) new vs new when you factor inflation from 2015/6 to 2020. $85k then, is about $91k today. So for $9k, getting
*more power you can feel / use daily with the 4.0L
*better suspension out of the box from .2 GT3 + .2 GT3RS
*improved aero (40% more DF, without any more drag)
*improved design (subjective)

That seems like good value to me @ $9k, heck even for $15k, I'm not one to tinker too much and do highly invasive mods that aren't covered by a warranty.

But, I agree, if you're someone who's willing to rip the engine out and do all the work, and take on the "risk" of those mods - used 981 GT4 is the economical way to go.
All very good points, however, if you were to go out today and buy a ‘16 981 GT4 versus a ‘20 718 GT4, the delta would be $30k to $40k. Granted you’re talking new versus used. The CPO ‘16 I purchased in February for $86k would have cost me $123k in today’s dollars with the exact same options. With about $6k in proven bolt on mods which I plan on doing, I will have a car with very similar performance to that of the 718 GT4.
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Originally Posted by Last_935
All very good points, however, if you were to go out today and buy a ‘16 981 GT4 versus a ‘20 718 GT4, the delta would be $30k to $40k. Granted you’re talking new versus used. The CPO ‘16 I purchased in February for $86k would have cost me $123k in today’s dollars with the exact same options. With about $6k in proven bolt on mods which I plan on doing, I will have a car with very similar performance to that of the 718 GT4.
Good points as well! I think if you already have a GT4 you like and modded, it's a stretch to jump out, pay taxes again on another 100k car. However, if you're upgrading from a sub GT car, and want the 718 Clubsport power/delivery w/ a warranty + no hassle mods set-up out of the box, this seems to be a decent value (vs. before we had no idea what this car was really putting down or if suspension even had improved...).

Net, I find spending $90k - $115k in grand scheme isn't too different financially - if you're spending about $90k and ultimately find the 981 GT4 lacking grunt + worried about strut tower issues + having to do a bit of suspension work from the get-go, then spending a little more for the 982 makes the first-time squeeze financially worth the juice...as they say.

It's all relative depending on your purpose for the car tbh, and I don't think there's a wrong decision here (thanks Porsche!). Porsche's masterful pricing / analysis of market ensures you're paying for every bit of added "Porsche goodness" no matter your budget.




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