Intake manifold from 718 GT4 CS to 981 GT4
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#32
I have the Dundon headers and Cobb tune and difference in power is noticeable and changes the car for the better. Based on their dyno chart HP is ~439 with a significant increase in mid-range torque. I am sure the newer car is very nice, but I think a 981 GT4 with some modest improvements will not be that far behind.
I also was able to reduce weight by installing a lightweight battery and reduce the rotational mass with E88 wheels. The performance increase is well worth these upgrades.
I also was able to reduce weight by installing a lightweight battery and reduce the rotational mass with E88 wheels. The performance increase is well worth these upgrades.
#33
Cheers,
Art
#34
Thanks!
#37
I can confirm the 718 GT4 CS intake system is a direct fit on the 981 CS. You will need a different starter and battery wire as well. All PMNA parts.
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
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#38
I can confirm the 718 GT4 CS intake system is a direct fit on the 981 CS. You will need a different starter and battery wire as well. All PMNA parts.
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
So, I guess that only the intake system don't provide much gain and is in comparison relatively expensive if we have to spend more for the starter and battery wire...
The best parts in this set are surely the camshafts
#39
I can confirm the 718 GT4 CS intake system is a direct fit on the 981 CS. You will need a different starter and battery wire as well. All PMNA parts.
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
Direct bolt on performance is still TBD, the 718 CS also uses the factory 991.1 GTS X51 camshaft that will have a direct impact on the intakes overall performance if just bolting onto a 981 GT4.
DeMan Motorsport has 3 of these in stock and currently testing them against our GT3RS intake conversion on our 4.25L and 4.5L engines..
#40
I'm not sold yet on this configuration - I just picked up a damaged 718 Clubsport engine for repair and then dyno analysis. I will report back with my findings!
#41
Intake manifold shootout on stock 3.8L, then on 4.5L (in no particular order);
1. Dundon with IPD
2. Dundon with 991.1
3. 718 GT4 Clubsport
4. 991.2 GT3 RS with DeMan adaptor
5. X51
6. IPD
7. 991.1
1. Dundon with IPD
2. Dundon with 991.1
3. 718 GT4 Clubsport
4. 991.2 GT3 RS with DeMan adaptor
5. X51
6. IPD
7. 991.1
#42
Originally Posted by d00d
Intake manifold shootout on stock 3.8L, then on 4.5L (in no particular order);
1. Dundon with IPD
2. Dundon with 991.1
3. 718 GT4 Clubsport
4. 991.2 GT3 RS with DeMan adaptor
5. X51
6. IPD
7. 991.1
1. Dundon with IPD
2. Dundon with 991.1
3. 718 GT4 Clubsport
4. 991.2 GT3 RS with DeMan adaptor
5. X51
6. IPD
7. 991.1
#43
Rick D. probably has more time testing these parts on that 4.5L motor than anyone in the country so I think we can take him for his word. I too would love to see how each one lays out but the problem is that we don't own a dyno and those trips back and forth would cost a lot of time & $. Trust me, I'm curious too because there are many options and I think an independent dyno overlay would be awesome but a lot of work to go back and forth.
The following are probably the top contenders, would like to see those on a 4.5L;
1. Dundon with IPD or 991.1
2. 718 GT4 Clubsport
3. 991.2 GT3 RS with DeMan adaptor
#44
It was worth the effort though as we dropped the motor to look at doing the intake (I was replacing the clutch with with a 800nm item anyway) and noticed all the carbon build-up in the inlet ports and on the back of the valves and valve stems. Plus there was a heap of oil in the IPD plenum and thoughout the intake system. My shop thought the exising OEM oil/air seperator is not up to the job for these DFI motors where the cars are tracked a lot and runs high RPMs a lot of the time. We fabrictated a 1 litre aluminium catch-can and plumbing with a drain pipe. The inlets were all cleaned out using Subaru fliud (it's a common subi problem) and bingo we got back the 15 bhp we had inexplicably lost.