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Old 06-05-2019, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
If he was only "almost" on par with your GT4, either you're a better driver than him/her or your car is also modified with similar upgrades. The GTS 'Ring time is one second quicker than the 981 GT4. Which only means, of course, that they are essentially equals. Swap in a set of Cup2s and the GTS is going to be faster.
GT4 and 718 GTS both ran 7:40 times.
Old 06-05-2019, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
Not true... there was a thread about this. A race prepped 718, the sun coast car, isn’t faster around the same tracks as a GT4 on the same rubber (RE71R).
I think it all depends on the track......he was able to gain time on me on the really tight corners but on the big corners and straights the GT4 would gain the time back and then a little bit more....I couldn't afford to loose any momentum.
Old 06-05-2019, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
GT4 and 718 GTS both ran 7:40 times.
At any rate, you missed the point.
Old 06-05-2019, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
At any rate, you missed the point.
Just providing clarity, the official times were the same. And for the record, I get why the common assumption is that a 718 with Cup 2s or RE71Rs are just as quick around a track.

A side note, if you follow the Suncoast 718 thread, they have had some major issues with over heating, even after modding the cooling system. Not a good sign for turbos on the 982 chassis.
Old 06-05-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
I'm kind on the same camp as you.....love my 981 GT4 and have it dial in for track days.
But since I'm at top of the list at my dealer it's too tempting to get the new one which will probably address some issues on the 981, so I'll have to buy the new car as you mentioned.
But wait, it gets even worst...if I'm lucky (or unlucky) for my allocation to fall within PTS then I 'll have no option but to shell out the ridiculous +$8K for PTS so I don't waste the "exclusivity" of having a PTS 718 GT4.
PTS is 11,500
Old 06-05-2019, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
I think it all depends on the track......he was able to gain time on me on the really tight corners but on the big corners and straights the GT4 would gain the time back and then a little bit more....I couldn't afford to loose any momentum.
For sure, it's very subjective. Weather, drivers, tire condition, etc. But the numbers we do have from multiple tracks say the 718 isn't any quicker around a track with R comps then a GT4.
Old 06-05-2019, 02:23 PM
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...getting us back on track (no pun intended), here's hoping to an internet reveal tomorrow (wishful thinking). Come on Porsche, give us something concrete already!
Old 06-05-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Klepper
A 718 GTS (PDK) with tires, suspension, alignment, brakes and a tune should be faster than a stock 981 GT4 with same driver talent.
should be

and makes you wonder why they aren't selling a (fill in your appropriate word) of 718 GTS cars

is it just the sound coming out of the motor?

is it the "looks?"

is it the type of motor?

is it the "promise of a GT4 version" so everyone is just waiting?

Porsche already knows the answer and I believe there's plenty of room for a GT4 (plus Boxster 6 and Cayman 6 versions) plus a GT4RS
GT4RS will be last NA variant of the Cayman/Boxster lineup before the all electric replacements show up in 2022/23
Old 06-05-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
Not true... there was a thread about this. A race prepped 718, the sun coast car, isn’t faster around the same tracks as a GT4 on the same rubber (RE71R).
I own both cars. My wife drives the 718 GTS (PDK) on track and I drive the GT4. Both are stock except for alignment for more front camber on each car. The 718 has RE-71r's and the GT4 Sport Cup 2's. We are both in the red group with Chin.

On the same track (MSRH) with the same driver (me) on the same day - I have identical lap times when we swapped cars for a session. That (and given identical Ring times between the two cars stock) is why I claimed that the 718 with a tune and other mods should be faster than a stock GT4.

We have never had any heat issues (or any issues at all for that matter) with the 718 tracking in Texas 100 degree heat.
Old 06-05-2019, 03:55 PM
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All the rumors suggest an optional PDK option but at a later date. Why not just offer a PDK at launch? Is it because they are saving the PDK for a GT4RS? Will the GT4 be quite limited in allocations?
Old 06-05-2019, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnauto
All the rumors suggest an optional PDK option but at a later date. Why not just offer a PDK at launch? Is it because they are saving the PDK for a GT4RS? Will the GT4 be quite limited in allocations?
Only Porsche knows the answers to those questions at the moment.
Old 06-05-2019, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Teo
fresh video, 3 different mules, different sounds, maybe also RS coming?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5F9Bthu-yQ
Just in that first 10sec of the video, that does not sound like a turbo.
Old 06-05-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
BTW...anyone that has taken a peak or worked on the 981/718 platform knows how tight everything is....good luck fitting turbos, plumbing and a pair of intercoolers with a 6-cyl engine. It will need MAJOR body reworking and still not sure it will fit.
This. All of this.
Old 06-05-2019, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
BTW...anyone that has taken a peak or worked on the 981/718 platform knows how tight everything is....good luck fitting turbos, plumbing and a pair of intercoolers with a 6-cyl engine. It will need MAJOR body reworking and still not sure it will fit.
Originally Posted by suterusu
This. All of this.

I don't think Lord Lucan is proposing that it's necessarily a turbo six.
Old 06-05-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
I don't think Lord Lucan is proposing that it's necessarily a turbo six.
It certainly isn’t the 718 flatulent-4.


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