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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 12:38 PM
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Would be impressive to see Porsche fit the 3.0L turbo and all of its exhaust/GPF in the 718. If they did manage to do it, that could explain the Cayman 6 rumors. It would help amortize R&D costs by selling more units.




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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blipit
Would be impressive to see Porsche fit the 3.0L turbo and all of its exhaust/GPF in the 718. If they did manage to do it, that could explain the Cayman 6 rumors. It would help amortize R&D costs by selling more units.




I haven't seen an engine-less 718 vs 991 yet and this makes me curious.
The cars are overall the same length. Isn't the volume available for the engine roughly the same between the cars?

The layout differs for sure due to the different position of the suspension relative to the engine and the side air intake on the mid-engine configuration. What else is different/restricting on the 718?

Or is it all just a matter of moving things around (from the side of the engine on a 911 to the back of the engine/alongside the gearbox on a 718)?

You'd also think that leveraging the side scoops for cooling would make using intercoolers easier on the 718 than the 911 yet the opposite happens.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 02:57 PM
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Way less width available in the 718, I really don't see how that 3.0T would fit, MAYBE with a single turbo setup like the 718 has already? The 991 can leverage all of that width behind the rear axle to fit turbos/intercoolers vs that space being limited in the 718.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pleasereset
I haven't seen an engine-less 718 vs 991 yet and this makes me curious.
The cars are overall the same length. Isn't the volume available for the engine roughly the same between the cars?

The layout differs for sure due to the different position of the suspension relative to the engine and the side air intake on the mid-engine configuration. What else is different/restricting on the 718?

Or is it all just a matter of moving things around (from the side of the engine on a 911 to the back of the engine/alongside the gearbox on a 718)?

You'd also think that leveraging the side scoops for cooling would make using intercoolers easier on the 718 than the 911 yet the opposite happens.
The trouble is the 3.0L turbo is too long..... it would be inside the cockpit of the 718.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
The trouble is the 3.0L turbo is too long..... it would be inside the cockpit of the 718.
Looking at those photos. That makes sense.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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Hello all

I hope the new gt4 is NA, the only good thing about turbos is you can alwalys make a bit more Bar/psi´s ehehehehh

Looking at those exaust´s i see alot of potencial to go strait pipe and lighter without all those boxes.

Can we have it already....
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
The trouble is the 3.0L turbo is too long..... it would be inside the cockpit of the 718.
Is the 3.0T longer than the former 3.8L? Is it the shortblock or only once you have all the peripherals?

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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pleasereset
Is the 3.0T longer than the former 3.8L? Is it the shortblock or only once you have all the peripherals?
You can see it on PET.

They would have to figure out how to plumb the turbos all over again to fit in 718 chassis.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
You can see it on PET.

They would have to figure out how to plumb the turbos all over again to fit in 718 chassis.
Bless their hearts.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
You can see it on PET.

They would have to figure out how to plumb the turbos all over again to fit in 718 chassis.
Makes sense. We've got all that space to fill between the bumper and the rear suspension though, the previous 718 picture from underneath illustrates it pretty well
That's where the 987/981 aftermarket turbo kits put their hardware if I'm not mistaken.
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Originally Posted by pleasereset
Makes sense. We've got all that space to fill between the bumper and the rear suspension though, the previous 718 picture from underneath illustrates it pretty well
That's where the 987/981 aftermarket turbo kits put their hardware if I'm not mistaken.
the design of the 3.0L turbo unfortunately dosnt allow a simple reroute of the plumbing or location of the turbos
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 08:15 PM
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I still hope it is NA. Not because I want a new one but I want another supply of NA GT4's when the inevitable smashing into of the one I have happens.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the design of the 3.0L turbo fortunately dosnt allow a simple reroute of the plumbing or location of the turbos
Fixed it.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
The trouble is the 3.0L turbo is too long..... it would be inside the cockpit of the 718.
Excellent post. The motor is going to be N/A. The next question is capacity. Probably 4 liter without being a GT3 motor. Could there be a Cayman/Boxster 6 as per spy pics, or are these cars just an update of the 718 4T with exhaust separated as per 718 GT4? The 981/781 architecture is going out to 2022/3. Seven year cycle appears to have been lengthened for this Porsche.

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