dub

We headed to Chur (coor) Switzerland. The oldest town in Switzerland. Took the Bernina Express over the Alps to Tirano, Italy. IN. CREDIBLE. Long day trip for pizza and gelato! But that train ride!
Stayed a couple nights in Dornbirn, Austria (Four Points) and explored Vaduz from there. Excellent hotel with great parking. Say hi to Jula and Melissa, trust me. In Chur we stayed at Hotel Chur, right on the river, courtyard private parking. Family owned and simple large rooms.
From there to Lucerne.

Old town Chur was quiet and very cool. Safe trip! Got the red flash on B500 leaving the park today! Busted!

bobert75

Well now I know to expect a bunch of photo radar tickets this Aug/Sept! Even on B500 - have they no shame when it comes to placing these moneymaker cameras? I still don't know how I didn't get any photo radar tickets on two prior visits...

Angryinch

Ya I think that’s the one I hit, I recall it being a red flash too. It was in a little tiny town somewhere outside Baden Baden. 30 zone.

Lucifer

My experience is significantly different that what you are describing here. 90% of the cameras I noticed in the dozens of thousands of kms I drove in the European alps (and had Waze to alert me on all the rest that I didn't) were placed in villages and small towns along the alpine roads. They let you drive 100kmh in roads that most "normal" people wouldn't dream to go even 70 (we in the US can only dream about such speed limits) but telling you very clearly to slow down when you come near a place where people live.

Mattyboi

Thats a good suggestion as Como would be a very long day from Baden Baden. Another option would be to head to Lucerne, from here you could head to Bern to see the bear.

Lucifer

do they drill the rear bumper? I don't want any holes there

bobert75

I'm only reacting to what others are saying. And I don't drive like an idiot through villages so I don't know what your point is.

Lucifer

My point was referring to your sentence "have they no shame when it comes to placing these moneymaker cameras" if it wasn't clear

bobert75

Well it depends where the cameras are located (though I'm against them being anywhere) - I was assuming none of us are speeding through villages and that there must be some cameras on open stretches somewhere.

Lucifer

Then, like I said, before covid (and before moving to the US) I spent dozens of thousands of kms in those roads (mainly the Alps and the Black Forest) and at least from my experience (which is 4 years old) cameras were almost exclusively placed to make drivers slow before towns and villages. They usually place them at the town's entrances\exists and calculate your average speed through the town (how long it took you to get from camera A to camera B).

bobert75

This isn't my first rodeo - I've driven in the Alps and along B500 before, but it's been 4 years. I'm just hoping the speed camera situation hasn't gotten worse. Again, I managed zero tickets on my last two trips. If I get any tickets this year it'll just be part of the cost of doing business - the business of Porsche ED.

Lucifer

Then I guess I am just confused to why you refer to them as "money makers" (which has an obvious negative tone to it). How about life savers?

bobert75

I'm not going to waste my time arguing about speed cameras with you.

Lucifer

good job not wasting your time by wasting your time commenting you won't waste your time

bobert75

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