The Pennsylvania Owners Thread
Where are you from? Licensed?
Not sure I've ever heard of "stopwatch" measuring device. Which township did it occur in. Most townships around Philly at least will reduce the citation to a minimal fine - non-point offense if you request a court date, show up, and are nice to the officer.
I don't typically do this type of work but I do play a lawyer on tv :-) Let me know if you need any help.
Not sure I've ever heard of "stopwatch" measuring device. Which township did it occur in. Most townships around Philly at least will reduce the citation to a minimal fine - non-point offense if you request a court date, show up, and are nice to the officer.
I don't typically do this type of work but I do play a lawyer on tv :-) Let me know if you need any help.
Stop watch was probably used as part of a vascar system which a lot of local police use here. If it was in Bucks County, you can usually work with the officer to get a non-points fine. If it was Doylestown/Buckingham/Warrington area, let me know.
Where are you from? Licensed?
Not sure I've ever heard of "stopwatch" measuring device. Which township did it occur in. Most townships around Philly at least will reduce the citation to a minimal fine - non-point offense if you request a court date, show up, and are nice to the officer.
I don't typically do this type of work but I do play a lawyer on tv :-) Let me know if you need any help.
Not sure I've ever heard of "stopwatch" measuring device. Which township did it occur in. Most townships around Philly at least will reduce the citation to a minimal fine - non-point offense if you request a court date, show up, and are nice to the officer.
I don't typically do this type of work but I do play a lawyer on tv :-) Let me know if you need any help.
Just show up at the court appointed date. Typically, eventually the police officer will show up and you will see him. It helps if you half-remember what the officer looked like. The officer will typically (and this is what my friend said) ask to speak to all of his tickets one by one, they will almost always offer you the deal of reduced (no-points) fine, and you just have to say yes. If the officer for for some reason does not ask to speak to you, just ask to speak to the officer yourself and ask if you could have the fine reduced to a no point fine (in PA one of the standard ones that the tickets typically get changed to is failure to yield to a traffic signal--carries no points), but from experience -- and yes I am actually a lawyer, not just on tv
-- the officer will almost always 99.9% of the time ask to speak to you first, just be patient when you see the officer show up; they show, pick up their list of tickets, and start slowly calling the people over to speak one by one.
-- the officer will almost always 99.9% of the time ask to speak to you first, just be patient when you see the officer show up; they show, pick up their list of tickets, and start slowly calling the people over to speak one by one.
Just show up at the court appointed date. Typically, eventually the police officer will show up and you will see him. It helps if you half-remember what the officer looked like. The officer will typically (and this is what my friend said) ask to speak to all of his tickets one by one, they will almost always offer you the deal of reduced (no-points) fine, and you just have to say yes. If the officer for for some reason does not ask to speak to you, just ask to speak to the officer yourself and ask if you could have the fine reduced to a no point fine (in PA one of the standard ones that the tickets typically get changed to is failure to yield to a traffic signal--carries no points), but from experience -- and yes I am actually a lawyer, not just on tv
-- the officer will almost always 99.9% of the time ask to speak to you first, just be patient when you see the officer show up; they show, pick up their list of tickets, and start slowly calling the people over to speak one by one.
-- the officer will almost always 99.9% of the time ask to speak to you first, just be patient when you see the officer show up; they show, pick up their list of tickets, and start slowly calling the people over to speak one by one.Basic Sponsor
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Loved getting the chance to meet so many of you this past weekend at C&C. Always a pleasure to show off what we've been working on.
We put together a great video to showcase some of the cars that came through. Cant wait for the Next one.
We put together a great video to showcase some of the cars that came through. Cant wait for the Next one.
Speaking of Vascar, I think philly cops can carry radar guns, non-state troopers elsewhere in PA can only use vascar which is a distance over time measuring device. (your radar detector is useless) They have to measure between painted lines in the road. (be cautious when you see the lines) Side note if you do see one of these and you are exceeding the limit and stop before the second line they still can give you a ticket for "defeating a traffic control device" zero point violation. I got one of those a few years ago, I was very guilty of speeding out in the middle of nowhere in PA (farms, fields, not much else) I told him I thought I saw an animal jump out into the road, hence why I panic stopped. Also if they ever bag you for speeding and the measuring distance is 100 feet or less you can fight this pretty easily. This details how: http://travel.3dresearch.com/index.html
Typically they are measuring at a distance of 200 feet or so, which unless they are working radios and hiding somewhere you will see them. Keep in mind your 991 can stop from 70 in about 140-150 feet depending on your tires and conditions etc. You should be pretty well set if you see them and there is no one behind you.
Few other side notes, if you are within 10mph they cannot give you a ticket. (they can but you can easily fight it and get it thrown out) So if they give you a vascar ticket for 5 over you can easily get it overturned as the law specifically states you have to be exceeding the limit by 10mph or more. Also that 10mph rule is worthless in active school (or construction) zones there is no leeway there with those. Again if you were way over and they are being nice and give you an under 5 mph over take it on the nose and pay up since its zero points.
Typically they are measuring at a distance of 200 feet or so, which unless they are working radios and hiding somewhere you will see them. Keep in mind your 991 can stop from 70 in about 140-150 feet depending on your tires and conditions etc. You should be pretty well set if you see them and there is no one behind you.
Few other side notes, if you are within 10mph they cannot give you a ticket. (they can but you can easily fight it and get it thrown out) So if they give you a vascar ticket for 5 over you can easily get it overturned as the law specifically states you have to be exceeding the limit by 10mph or more. Also that 10mph rule is worthless in active school (or construction) zones there is no leeway there with those. Again if you were way over and they are being nice and give you an under 5 mph over take it on the nose and pay up since its zero points.
I had no idea that the local police did not carry laser or radar. On the 611 bypass linking up to 202 on the south side of Doylestown there a bunch of lines painted on the road as the speed reduces to 45 mph. Are those the Vascar lines? I've never seen a cop monitoring those. Other states which claim they use it I've only seen the standard single white line.
I had no idea that the local police did not carry laser or radar. On the 611 bypass linking up to 202 on the south side of Doylestown there a bunch of lines painted on the road as the speed reduces to 45 mph. Are those the Vascar lines? I've never seen a cop monitoring those. Other states which claim they use it I've only seen the standard single white line.
The lines on the bypass are just from testing road paint, that is why they are so many. That whole intersection is relatively new. It use to be one lane going towards the light and then the onramp use to be on the other side of that patch of woods. They were never near each other in the past, the lines have been there forever they just keep adding to it.


