There were significant changes in the last few weeks on the math channel engine that changed things. I went through some of it with James on Saturday morning and the math channels worked for him after that. AFAIK from James (Sunday) he did not have problems with math channels. I have used them since then and they work for me. Have you tried them since yesterday and experienced something different?

 

Only works with Solo DL 2 and not the earlier Solo Dl - is that correct?
How is the Video integration. If I compare laps, do you see two videos? Is it as good as VBOX?

 

The full data and video integration need a dash/logger that is configured with RS3, so the original Solo DL doesn't qualify. However, you do get data at 6 Hz (read reduced speed) with a Smartycam HD video, so you can have some data to work with.

The full video integration works. You can have up to 4 videos side by side, synched together. Something that can also be really helpful is you can synch video from different vehicles using GPS time, so it enables a whole new way of learning with follow the leader or teammates running together.

 

Thanks Matt. I will try RS3 with my SmartyCAM. If I like it, that will probably be enough for me to buy a Solo Dl 2.

 

While the information required to sync accurately and automatically the data and video is not in the legacy (Race Studio 2 configured devices like the Solo and Solo DL, EVO4 and MXL Pista) devices, you can still open the data files within Race Studio 3 Analysis.

Also, as Matt points out and as I do frequently, you can load a movie from a SmartyCam HD and get basic information along with video, compare laps with video and at least dig a little deeper with the validation of the video information including track position laterally, traffic and other variables.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of each system, but they’re very different in ease of use, timeliness of finding time in the data with video and power to display both car and driver information in different ways. The ability to quickly identify and select individual best segments and compare with a reference lap or another lap with both video and data with one click is not available in RS3A.

OTOH, RS3A is able to display scatter plots, histograms and relatively complete car engineering and health measures in a much more powerful way. You pay your money and make your choice.

With more options and configurability, RS3A can take some time to not only get up to speed and use effectively, but also to get actionable information out of it in a short turnaround time. If you’re willing to invest the time and effort (or have time at the track to really do it right as a dedicated data geek), it’s a substantial improvement over RS2, most of that due to the inclusion of synced video, something most other manufacturers have a ten or fifteen year head start on. Not much more of a leap up to MoTeC i2 Pro!

I work with a lot of drivers in the relatively narrow context of evaluating and assessing their individual performance, with the sole purpose of creating an objectively derived action plan, in short order, to most effectively implement driver performance improvements the very next session. While RS3A is a huge leap forward in capability, video is treated as an added data set included in the wide variety of windows it displays, whereas VBOX is built around the GPS-position justified video in order to evaluate car heading and juxtapose exactly the car positions, speeds, loadings and other car data between two or more laps. I also work with a lot of drivers and who have both AiM and VBOX, Cosworth and VBOX or MoTeC and VBOX, and it’s telling what the usual workflow is.

For sure would recommend the Solo 2 DL and camera combination to fully leverage the power of RS3A, now in full release. It’s also got the headroom now to grow and introduce new features, configurability and power far beyond the old Race Studio Analysis, included with RS2. Have fun!

 

I am about to leave for Sebring and can't write a long post, but I would not agree with Peter's statements above. GPS is the key component of how RS3 Analysis works with data, hence the lap time, distance, and GPS time analysis capabilities. With a very small amount of configuring, you can always open a session and look at a standard profile (view) of video and selected data. It is not hard and something that I offer my customers.

 

Umm, yeah. That's how MoTeC i2, Cosworth Toolbox, AiM RS3 Analysis, VBOX Circuit Tools 2, Bosch Windarab, Marelli Wintax and others work, too. Looks like we agree!

The post was asking about the differences.

The AiM system syncs multiple laps of video on the GPS clock and the VBOX system syncs multiple laps of video on GPS position. That's a difference, a pretty big one.

The AiM system compares full laps in video and the VBOX system can zoom on a specific segment or segments in video.

The AiM system requires downloading from two separate devices, logger and camera. The VBOX has it all in one folder on an SD card.

The AiM system is Windows only, I don't think LapSnap is ready for prime time and it's not from AiM anyway. VBOX is Windows, Mac OS and iOS right now, and has been for some time.

I think Race Studio 3 Analysis is a huge step forward, finally integrating video within the data analysis window, but that's a couple big differences to answer a specific question from @Curves

You should read more carefully.