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Old 11-11-2010 | 12:53 PM
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Looking for recommendations/location on buying the best foam gun/model for washing.
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I like my Gilmour foam gun. Simple to use, makes decent suds.

What I really like is the pressure washer foam cannons ... Serious suds.
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Thanks Lewis, any suggestion on suppliers for both?
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FWIW, the first place I check is RL forum sponsors (since there are often discounts, specials, group buys, etc)

For example (and no affiliation):

http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...foamcanon.aspx
with
http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...urewasher.aspx


http://www.detailersdomain.com/gilmo...eriiquart.aspx


(FWIW, I have the original Gilmour Foam Master, not the II...no idea what the exact differences are):

Here are the 2 different Gilmour guns, shown here from Gilmour via Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-75QGF4...9561584&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-95QGFM...561617&sr=1-20
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Using a Gilmour Foamaster II Foam Gun (Low Pressure) only requires a rinse bucket, because there is no need for a wash bucket. With this wash method you further minimize adding surface imperfections (scratches) to your paint. You foam the car, wipe it with your media, and rinse the media in the bucket, repeat. The main benefit is that you can pre-soak your vehicle with shampoo without the need to touch your paint. This allows the surfactants in the wash concentrate to lift contamination from the surface of your vehicle and hold it in suspension, which helps the foam stick to the surface longer for a deeper clean. The soils can then be safely rinsed away

The multi-ratio injector offers five settings to adjust the dilution rate from 128:1 to 10:1 (injecting the flow from the hose to the reservoir to provide the dilution ratio selected) built-in filters ensure any sediment in the water supply is removed before it reaches your car. An anti-siphon valve protects the water supply by preventing soapy water from siphoning back into the hose (when the water supply is turned off, you may notice a slight discharge of water at the base of the handle - this is normal and indicates that the anti-siphon valve is functioning properly).

Specification• Water Pressure - 40 to 90 psi (for maximum accuracy 40 to 60 psi)
• Output - 1-1.5 gallons per minute
• Spray Pattern - Foaming attachment provides a fan spray or removes for a solid stream. Deflector attachment for non foaming fan spray pattern.
• Anti-siphon - Protects potable water supply.
• Standard Single Ratio - (b) 4fl oz per gallon of solution sprayed.
• Customized Ratios - Can be set from 0.25oz per gallon to 14oz per gallon. (Note: this range is affected by the viscosity of the chemical.)
• The multi-ratio injector offers five settings to adjust the dilution rate from 1 oz. / gal. (a) 2 oz. / gal. (b) 4 oz. / gal.(c) 6 oz. / gal (d) 12 oz. / gal (e) and a built-in filters ensure any sediment in the water supply is removed before it reaches your vehicle
• After each use, rinse the nozzle and foaming mechanism with clean water to remove any soap residue. This will prevent soapy build-up inside the nozzle and on the brass mechanisms. With regular cleaning, it will give you years of trouble-free performance
• Available in two sizes: 75QGFMR - Quart Foam Gun - 95HGFMR - Half Gallon Foam Gun, both with multi-ratio stem to adjust mix ratios and deflector.
Purchase the unit with brass fittings ( not plastic) as they will last longer

High Pressure Foam Cannon (Foam Lance)

The difference between this and a Gilmour Foamaster II Foam Gun is the water pressure (40 to 90 psi) usually connected to a low pressure garden hose; the HP Foam Lance (Rated Pressure - 2,300 psi) is connected to a high pressure washer (i.e. Karcher Model K5.93M- 1850 PSI, 1.5 GPM, Nilfisk 140.2-9 S Xtra – 2000 PSI, 6.5 GPM (8 litre minute) or similar unit
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Damn, that some sweet info!!!

I have been considering a foam gun and will now ask for one for xmas :-)
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Originally Posted by jcslocum
Damn, that some sweet info!!!

I have been considering a foam gun and will now ask for one for xmas :-)
Your welcome

Just don't forget to leave Santa some cookies and milk...good luck (I'd wish you all a happy Christmas, but its far too early
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Don't forget to ask Santa for a CR Spotless system for rinsing the car when clean.
It finishes the job the foam gun started ... no water spots.
http://www.glisteningperfectionstore...High%2C/Detail

And since you still have your list in front of you, don't forget to ask for a blow dryer, to get the DI water out from all the litle hiding places.
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Originally Posted by ltc
FWIW, the first place I check is RL forum sponsors (since there are often discounts, specials, group buys, etc)

For example (and no affiliation):

http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...foamcanon.aspx
with
http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...urewasher.aspx


http://www.detailersdomain.com/gilmo...eriiquart.aspx


(FWIW, I have the original Gilmour Foam Master, not the II...no idea what the exact differences are):

Here are the 2 different Gilmour guns, shown here from Gilmour via Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-75QGF4...9561584&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-95QGFM...561617&sr=1-20
Lewis thank you for the links. I'm also in the market again, my Griots Foam Gun unfortunately wasn't built to last and after 1.5 years of use it's starting to fall apart. If I can't figure out a away to rebuilt it with better parts I will just buy one of these!

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[COLOR="Blue"]Using a Gilmour Foamaster II Foam Gun (Low Pressure) only requires a rinse bucket, because there is no need for a wash bucket. With this wash method you further minimize adding surface imperfections (scratches) to your paint. You foam the car, wipe it with your media, and rinse the media in the bucket, repeat. The main benefit is that you can pre-soak your vehicle with shampoo without the need to touch your paint. This allows the surfactants in the wash concentrate to lift contamination from the surface of your vehicle and hold it in suspension, which helps the foam stick to the surface longer for a deeper clean. The soils can then be safely rinsed away

The multi-ratio injector offers five settings to adjust the dilution rate from 128:1 to 10:1 (injecting the flow from the hose to the reservoir to provide the dilution ratio selected) built-in filters ensure any sediment in the water supply is removed before it reaches your car. An anti-siphon valve protects the water supply by preventing soapy water from siphoning back into the hose (when the water supply is turned off, you may notice a slight discharge of water at the base of the handle - this is normal and indicates that the anti-siphon valve is functioning properly).

Specification• Water Pressure - 40 to 90 psi (for maximum accuracy 40 to 60 psi)
• Output - 1-1.5 gallons per minute
• Spray Pattern - Foaming attachment provides a fan spray or removes for a solid stream. Deflector attachment for non foaming fan spray pattern.
• Anti-siphon - Protects potable water supply.
• Standard Single Ratio - (b) 4fl oz per gallon of solution sprayed.
• Customized Ratios - Can be set from 0.25oz per gallon to 14oz per gallon. (Note: this range is affected by the viscosity of the chemical.)
• The multi-ratio injector offers five settings to adjust the dilution rate from 1 oz. / gal. (a) 2 oz. / gal. (b) 4 oz. / gal.(c) 6 oz. / gal (d) 12 oz. / gal (e) and a built-in filters ensure any sediment in the water supply is removed before it reaches your vehicle
• After each use, rinse the nozzle and foaming mechanism with clean water to remove any soap residue. This will prevent soapy build-up inside the nozzle and on the brass mechanisms. With regular cleaning, it will give you years of trouble-free performance
• Available in two sizes: 75QGFMR - Quart Foam Gun - 95HGFMR - Half Gallon Foam Gun, both with multi-ratio stem to adjust mix ratios and deflector.
Purchase the unit with brass fittings ( not plastic) as they will last longer
As always a very detailed reply and very helpful. The comment about buying the brass version is expecially important, it's the plastic parts of my Griots Foamer which are falling apart.
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Originally Posted by ltc
FWIW, the first place I check is RL forum sponsors (since there are often discounts, specials, group buys, etc)

For example (and no affiliation):

http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...foamcanon.aspx
with
http://www.detailersdomain.com/camsp...urewasher.aspx


http://www.detailersdomain.com/gilmo...eriiquart.aspx


(FWIW, I have the original Gilmour Foam Master, not the II...no idea what the exact differences are):

Here are the 2 different Gilmour guns, shown here from Gilmour via Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-75QGF4...9561584&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-95QGFM...561617&sr=1-20
Thanks Lewis, I've been checking Phil's site for the last month or so and it lists their Gilmour foam guns as being out of stock.

Originally Posted by ltc
Don't forget to ask Santa for a CR Spotless system for rinsing the car when clean.
It finishes the job the foam gun started ... no water spots.
http://www.glisteningperfectionstore...High%2C/Detail

And since you still have your list in front of you, don't forget to ask for a blow dryer, to get the DI water out from all the litle hiding places.
I have the CR Spotless water filter system... and I agree it finishes the job in good fashion.
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Originally Posted by TOGWT
Your welcome

Just don't forget to leave Santa some cookies and milk...good luck (I'd wish you all a happy Christmas, but its far too early
Jon, once again... thank you for an informative post and sharing your insights.
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FWIW I'm very happy with my Gilmour Foammaster (not the II model).

The differences between them is pretty subtle. The original foam master uses a metering system that consists of a metal tube that slides for adjustment, the newer II version has a dial to change the foam settings. They pretty much work the same though.

I had an issue with the nozel on mine started to leak after about 9 months, I called up the company to get a replacement part and they sent it to me free of charge under the warranty period.

Andy




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