Bergamasco

I am wondering if I can a little help from those of you who have already tried a basket of different products out there. (......apologies for the long read) I am certainly a newby in the area of detailing and I don't want to mess up my lovely 993 which has had a recent front end respray. I have tried Meguiar's scratch X and I have plenty of Meguiar's Show Car Glaze 7 and a fresh container of Optimum Poli Seal but I am feeling that I need a better compound and yet I want to be safe in not overdoing the process of removing the last of the scratches left by the body shop. The Menzerna Power Gloss compound seems as though it might be too aggressive for a newby to use with a PC but their Final Finish sounds as though it might be the best product for my black finish. the Optimum Compound II sounds as though it could work very well and be perhaps more user friendly for the novice. Can I combine the products from both companies? Any specific suggestions on what exactly I should use for the best results and to stay safe with the finish at the same time? Thanks in advance. - Glenn

TOGWT

Power Finish (PO203S) - (M) this is a one-step scratch remover polish that will remove 2500 grit, cut 3.0-gloss 3.5, is formulated as a quick way to polish out light flaws and amplify the paint’s gloss.

OCD- You could also follow up with Nano Polish (PO85RD 3.01) using a black pad for lighter imperfections for even more depth and gloss.

Bergamasco

Thanks TOGWT - I found those products... well mostly. I can PO203 but not PO203S. Is this the very latest product? Also, Can you or would you recommend a sealant before waxing? Thanks - Glenn

theiceman

Hey Glenn what are you doing here ?

Funny I came looking for the same answer

I actually have poorboys EXP pure sealant. I am embarrased to say i don't know if it goes on before or after wax.

What wax are you using Glenn?

Bergamasco

It goes on before the wax. I am using Victoria Concours wax. :-) Are you watching the game?

TOGWT

I tend to use the complete name for products, especially Menz as their numbers can be complex. So Menz PO203S Power Finish (PO203 is the same product)

I prefer a selant and then a Carnauba wax, wax provides better protection from bird excrement and acid rain and is easily renewable, whereas a sealant has a much better durability. IMO the best of both worlds

Bergamasco

Would you recommend the Menzerna sealant or do you have another preferance? I'll be using either Victoria or P21S carnauba waxes. Thanks again for your help. Happy motoring. Glenn

TOGWT

Menzerna's FMJ is a good sealant, although my preference would be Zaino

Bergamasco

Zaino CS? or Z2? or Z5 Pro?

Jlangmd

Zaino AIO followed by 1 or 2 coats of Z2 pro, then Z CS.

Bergamasco

gracious...... This is getting to be a looooooooooooong process. I was hoping to be able to go straight to the sealant.

Jlangmd

You can do that too, if you want. Z CS can apparently be used directly. I haven't tried.

On my minivan I just used the Z Aio and the CS the following day after it cures. AIO is a two step process but the CS is quick and easy. This will give a good appearance and good endurance with the minimum work.

On the 911, I used 2 or 3 layers of Z2 Pro between. Not sure how much that really helps, but the shine is excellent.

Bergamasco

Do you use a carnauba wax on top of the Z2 Pro?

detailersdomain

bergamasco,

sorry a bit late to the thread.

we sell this kit you might be interested in.

The uber PO203/PO85RD kit

we have used this combo alot lately with amazing results.

personally I think on black you should go just with a wax no sealant needed I'm going to guess your baby is in the garage.

also depending on what the paint needs the pc with 203 might not be enough you may have to go to PG then 203 then finish with 85.

Bergamasco

Thanks for the suggestions Phil. Yes, the baby is always in the garage. I am curious as to why you don't like the idea of the sealant. I thought this improved the protection greatly as well as adding to the gloss of any paint colour including black. I have the white, green and blue pads from Lake Country and was planning to purchase the orange. I thought I would get a duplication of this set in the 4' diameter for the trickier areas. Would you agree that this should cover my needs with the products discussed thus far? Comments? - Thanks .... Glenn