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Old May 20, 2023 | 01:50 PM
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I recently had a test drive of a Cayenne ahead of a planned order for a new Cayenne S. As expected the car drove well, however at motorway speeds (75-80 MPH) there was a significant amount of wind noise compared to either the Mercedes GLE that I also test drove or the Mercedes CL600 that I also own. As I do a reasonable amount of motorway miles this would be annoying and I am now wondering if the car is unsuitable for my use case.

The dealer seemed to think that the "Thermally and noise insulated glass" might help (this is similar to what my CL has) but did not have any cars available with it fitted for a test drive. Has anyone driven both a Cayenne with both standard glass and the noise insulated glass and if so please can you tell me how much of a difference it makes to wind noise.

The dealer also thought that the Burmester sound system included active noise cancellation, however this is not listed in the description in the configurator. Does anyone have experience of this and does this offer any benefit?

For reference the car I drove was a Cayenne eHybrid Platinum Edition.
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Old May 20, 2023 | 01:58 PM
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Are you sure everything was buttoned up tight? Sunroof and all four windows? My Cayenne GTS - even with the louder exhaust and 21" wheels has no wind noise on the highway at all.
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Old May 20, 2023 | 02:52 PM
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I checked all the windows were up and the car had a fixed panoramic roof (not an opening sunroof). The car was pretty much new (had 47 miles on it). The salesman who accompanied me on the test drive seemed to think the noise was typical for the Cayenne hence I was wondering if there are any options that make a significant difference?
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Could be I'm just used to noisy vehicles as my Cayenne is - by far - my quietest vehicle. My others are a 992 Cab, a Ford Ranger pickup and a BMW Motorcycle!
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Old May 20, 2023 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic7
I recently had a test drive of a Cayenne ahead of a planned order for a new Cayenne S. As expected the car drove well, however at motorway speeds (75-80 MPH) there was a significant amount of wind noise compared to either the Mercedes GLE that I also test drove or the Mercedes CL600 that I also own. As I do a reasonable amount of motorway miles this would be annoying and I am now wondering if the car is unsuitable for my use case.

The dealer seemed to think that the "Thermally and noise insulated glass" might help (this is similar to what my CL has) but did not have any cars available with it fitted for a test drive. Has anyone driven both a Cayenne with both standard glass and the noise insulated glass and if so please can you tell me how much of a difference it makes to wind noise.

The dealer also thought that the Burmester sound system included active noise cancellation, however this is not listed in the description in the configurator. Does anyone have experience of this and does this offer any benefit?

For reference the car I drove was a Cayenne eHybrid Platinum Edition.
I think the Cayenne has wind noise. I am not of the belief the Cayenne is an exceptionally quiet car. Said differently, the Cayenne is a bit noisy when it comes to wind.

MBs are generally quiet so you are comparing the Cayenne to a good-performing car from a wind noise perspective.

Don’t believe a single word that issues from the mouth of a dealer employee.
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Old May 20, 2023 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic7
I recently had a test drive of a Cayenne ahead of a planned order for a new Cayenne S. As expected the car drove well, however at motorway speeds (75-80 MPH) there was a significant amount of wind noise compared to either the Mercedes GLE that I also test drove or the Mercedes CL600 that I also own. As I do a reasonable amount of motorway miles this would be annoying and I am now wondering if the car is unsuitable for my use case.

The dealer seemed to think that the "Thermally and noise insulated glass" might help (this is similar to what my CL has) but did not have any cars available with it fitted for a test drive. Has anyone driven both a Cayenne with both standard glass and the noise insulated glass and if so please can you tell me how much of a difference it makes to wind noise.

The dealer also thought that the Burmester sound system included active noise cancellation, however this is not listed in the description in the configurator. Does anyone have experience of this and does this offer any benefit?

For reference the car I drove was a Cayenne eHybrid Platinum Edition.
I had a couple of Mercedes SUVs too..

On the Cayenne S (2019), the thin semi-transparent sunroof and the non-sound insulated side windows are sources of noise.

Easy to get used to, but if you are sensitive to noise or usually have trouble talking to people inside vehicles, then you may have a problem.



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Old May 20, 2023 | 11:49 PM
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No wind noise in my GTS with the thermo and noise insulated glass. While driving west across New Mexico last March there were forecasted SW wind gusts over 60 mph. We maintain 80 mph, all was quiet and rock solid on the road. If your test vehicle had wind noise maybe drive a different one to compare.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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Our ‘23 is extremely quiet with wind noise. Quieter than our Tesla was, quieter than our 2014 Cayenne, about as quiet as my old Lexus. If you’re hearing wind noise either something is wrong or you are used to exceptionally quiet cars.
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Relatively speaking, it is a noisy SUV. I have the CTT and while somewhat quiet, compared to the MB, it's noisy. IT is what it is.
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I've haven't driven a Cayenne with the standard single pane glass but my 2022 base with the double pane glass option has very little wind noise at highway speeds.- notably less wind noise than in the exceptionally quiet Lexus LS sedans I drove for 24 years which had only single pane glass. Since exterior mirrors produce much of the wind noise, consider getting at least the lower cost forward double pane glass option. If minimum overall noise is a goal, consider getting the more comprehensive higher cost double pane glass option, the standard exhaust and the narrowest tires.

Did you test drive a 2023 or refreshed 2024? The Autogefühl review of the 2024 I watched on YouTube seemed to indicate that the 2024 was quieter than the 2023:
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Are you sure everything was buttoned up tight? Sunroof and all four windows? My Cayenne GTS - even with the louder exhaust and 21" wheels has no wind noise on the highway at all.
+1. But if it is too noisy for you then maybe a different vehicle? I doubt the insulated glass will make much of a difference. My dealer says maybe 15%.

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A thought…did the test vehicle have 4 zone AC? Took us a while to figure out a noise right by our head but from the back. The B Pillar vents for rear seat AC are noisy. We keep them off except when needed.
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A thought…did the test vehicle have 4 zone AC? Took us a while to figure out a noise right by our head but from the back. The B Pillar vents for rear seat AC are noisy. We keep them off except when needed.
Yes, they are super loud.
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The car I drove was what would be called a 2022 model year in the UK (but would be called a 2023 model year in the States). The dealer does not have any 2023 (US 2024) demonstrators yet. I might try and find out when they will have demonstrators for the new car in.

Thanks for all the feedback. Some different views, but overall it sounds like the Cayenne is reasonably quiet but not class leading whereas the Mercedes GLE (and my ultimate reference which is my Mercedes CL600) are class leading.
So it sounds like I should stick with the Mercedes. Which is a shame as in the UK the Cayenne is the only way you can get a V8 without spending half as much again, but the Mercedes does seem to be the better car overall for me as it rides significantly better and is significantly quieter while maintaining 90% of the handling of the Cayenne.
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Originally Posted by Magic7
The car I drove was what would be called a 2022 model year in the UK (but would be called a 2023 model year in the States). The dealer does not have any 2023 (US 2024) demonstrators yet. I might try and find out when they will have demonstrators for the new car in.

Thanks for all the feedback. Some different views, but overall it sounds like the Cayenne is reasonably quiet but not class leading whereas the Mercedes GLE (and my ultimate reference which is my Mercedes CL600) are class leading.
So it sounds like I should stick with the Mercedes. Which is a shame as in the UK the Cayenne is the only way you can get a V8 without spending half as much again, but the Mercedes does seem to be the better car overall for me as it rides significantly better and is significantly quieter while maintaining 90% of the handling of the Cayenne.
You are honestly overthinking this. As I said above, our 2023 is quieter than our 2014. We have done multiple trips in our 2014 on very loud concrete highways and I’ve done up to 1000 miles in a day and no point in time did we think that the wind noise was causing significant Road fatigue.

I picked up a 2023 Cayenne and immediately did a 500 mile road trip in a weekend and all I could think of was wow. This car is really quiet and comfortable on the highway. I really don’t think you have anything to worry about.
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