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Old May 21, 2023 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic7
The car I drove was what would be called a 2022 model year in the UK (but would be called a 2023 model year in the States). The dealer does not have any 2023 (US 2024) demonstrators yet. I might try and find out when they will have demonstrators for the new car in.

Thanks for all the feedback. Some different views, but overall it sounds like the Cayenne is reasonably quiet but not class leading whereas the Mercedes GLE (and my ultimate reference which is my Mercedes CL600) are class leading.
So it sounds like I should stick with the Mercedes. Which is a shame as in the UK the Cayenne is the only way you can get a V8 without spending half as much again, but the Mercedes does seem to be the better car overall for me as it rides significantly better and is significantly quieter while maintaining 90% of the handling of the Cayenne.
And the Benz is less expensive, correct? Or do I understand that you are contemplating spending money on a new-to-you Cayenne vs keeping your existing vehicle?

Are you really rather debating spending, vs not spending? And rather that wind noise is the proffered objection to the desire to not spend? I'm not clear on where you are headed. Please correct any/all of the preceding.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 05:11 PM
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I currently own a Range Rover and a Mercedes CL600. I am replacing the Range Rover so I'm looking at options to replace it. The two options I shortlisted are the Cayenne S and the GLE 450 Premium Plus (we don't get the 580 in the UK). The GLE is £95000 against the Cayenne at £100000 so price is not a significant factor, especially as the Cayenne has the V8 against the V6 in the Mercedes.

On the test drive the Cayenne was significantly louder than the GLE and significantly less comfortable. That is not saying it is loud or uncomfortable, it is just saying it is bad compared to the GLE. Hence I was wondering if there are any ways to improve this, but on the balance of the feedback in this article it sounds like significant improvement is unlikely.

Yes, I am more sensitive to wind and road noise than most people, but that means it is a feature I am looking for and one that is often not commented on in detail in reviews hence my question. I have tinnitus which comes and goes and both wind noise in cars or having to turn the radio up to mask it can aggravate it.

It may just be a question of priorities. The Cayenne felt more like a sports car given some luxury features than a luxury car given some sporty features - if this is what people want in a car great, but in hindsight this is not what I want in a car. No problem with that - everyone wants different things. I just needed to get some different perspectives on it to reach that conclusion.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 07:10 PM
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Maybe try a different model Cayenne, but I think you value quiet and comfort over sportiness and performance, so probably the Benz is right on target. Or a Bentley SUV if you want to kick it up a notch.

oddly enough I find the Cayenne much more luxurious than Range Rover in the way it drives. Maybe because I’m always wondering when the RR is going to break! Lol.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic7
I currently own a Range Rover and a Mercedes CL600. I am replacing the Range Rover so I'm looking at options to replace it. The two options I shortlisted are the Cayenne S and the GLE 450 Premium Plus (we don't get the 580 in the UK). The GLE is £95000 against the Cayenne at £100000 so price is not a significant factor, especially as the Cayenne has the V8 against the V6 in the Mercedes.

On the test drive the Cayenne was significantly louder than the GLE and significantly less comfortable. That is not saying it is loud or uncomfortable, it is just saying it is bad compared to the GLE. Hence I was wondering if there are any ways to improve this, but on the balance of the feedback in this article it sounds like significant improvement is unlikely.

Yes, I am more sensitive to wind and road noise than most people, but that means it is a feature I am looking for and one that is often not commented on in detail in reviews hence my question. I have tinnitus which comes and goes and both wind noise in cars or having to turn the radio up to mask it can aggravate it.

It may just be a question of priorities. The Cayenne felt more like a sports car given some luxury features than a luxury car given some sporty features - if this is what people want in a car great, but in hindsight this is not what I want in a car. No problem with that - everyone wants different things. I just needed to get some different perspectives on it to reach that conclusion.
Yes, the Cayenne as you correctly note is a sport-oriented car. The GLE in non-AMG variants is a comfort-oriented machine. The Mercedes will be mushier, quieter and less expensive than the Cayenne, all else being equal.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 09:39 PM
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I had a 2019 Cayenne S with the optional insulated glass and didn’t order it on my 2021 Cayenne S Coupe. I have the standard glass and honestly don’t see a difference.Maybe windows a little darker but same quietness. Didn’t order it on my 2024 Cayenne S Coupe either.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 10:01 PM
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Yes, the Cayenne as you correctly note is a sport-oriented car. The GLE in non-AMG variants is a comfort-oriented machine. The Mercedes will be mushier, quieter and less expensive than the Cayenne, all else being equal.
Can't compare a luxury based Mercedes with a performance/reliable built Porsche.

Porsche build, brakes, steering, engine longevity, etc. are way above Mercedes, but Mercedes exceeds Porsche in luxury.

I owned two Mercedes SUVs, a V6 and a V8 with the AMG package, and I will not go to Mercedes again. Even, with the extra Mercedes luxury bait..

My interaction with Mecedes dealers left a lot to be desired. They treat customers like cash cows.

The difference with Porsche was that my MB"s SUVs were at the dealer all the time, and it cost me around $10,000 each in repairs on the around 109,000 miles of it.

Not to mention that the trade-in offered by Mercedes was about 1/5 of the value after 4 to 5 years, because they stated that MB's are practically trash after 100K..

After my MB SUV main axle began to fail, and they didn't want to apply an available fix kit because they only do full part replacement, I sold my MB SUV for dirt and went the Porsche way.

Not to mention that on my first brand new MB SUV, one if the managers exchanged my spare tire for a rotten one.

Soon after I bought my brand new MB SUV, i got a blown tire on my way to New Mexico, where I was in a completely desolate area. Even the Mercedes roadside assistance didn't want to put the spare tire back on the vehicle.

So, for me, Porsche is the real deal, and I feel very secure that it will safely take me to the place I need to go.

Not very good memories of my 9 to 10 years Mercedes experience with my two MB SUVs.

Porsche luxury is chaotic, to say the least. The Porsche navigation system is a joke.

I guess not very many people know that when you enroll in their paid Porsche subscription to update the navigation maps, it only updates the map that your GPS is located on. Many of your maps become so obsolete that you really can't plan a trip using your maps. I had to go to the dealer and asked them to update all my maps. In addition, the Porsche GPS tells me to cross a lake to go to one of my homes, while it gets confused on the roads near my other home.

Having to use your smartphone or a Garmin GPS for directions is a shameful example of some Porsche weak offerings, where you even have to pay for services for sub-standard equipment. The infotainment Porsche system will not let you even connect to the internet through your phone, if you don't pay the yearly service fee.

Still, reliability wise, drive enjoyment, excellent braking, driving on rails, etc. make Porsche my prefer vehicle for everyday driving.

Some cabin noise, with the standard options, but it is not high on my list..

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thank you for inquiring about the wind noise in the Cayenne. I will tell you that in all the Porsches I have ever owned that I’ve had the option of adding noise insulated glass. The difference between that and non-insulated glass is dramatic. With the windows up driving on the highway at high speeds it’s absolutely silent. You will be amazed. I have in my Taycan turbo s and my Cayenne turbo hybrid and it is unbelievable. The one thing I do need to bring to everyone’s attention, which I’m sure everyone already knows about is that when the windows are open you do sometimes feel like there’s a vacuum going through the middle of the car, which is almost impossible to get rid of unless you have a sunroof that you open at the same time.

QUOTE=Magic7;18813502]I recently had a test drive of a Cayenne ahead of a planned order for a new Cayenne S. As expected the car drove well, however at motorway speeds (75-80 MPH) there was a significant amount of wind noise compared to either the Mercedes GLE that I also test drove or the Mercedes CL600 that I also own. As I do a reasonable amount of motorway miles this would be annoying and I am now wondering if the car is unsuitable for my use case.

The dealer seemed to think that the "Thermally and noise insulated glass" might help (this is similar to what my CL has) but did not have any cars available with it fitted for a test drive. Has anyone driven both a Cayenne with both standard glass and the noise insulated glass and if so please can you tell me how much of a difference it makes to wind noise.



The dealer also thought that the Burmester sound system included active noise cancellation, however this is not listed in the description in the configurator. Does anyone have experience of this and does this offer any benefit?

For reference the car I drove was a Cayenne eHybrid Platinum Edition.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by Magic7
I recently had a test drive of a Cayenne ahead of a planned order for a new Cayenne S. As expected the car drove well, however at motorway speeds (75-80 MPH) there was a significant amount of wind noise compared to either the Mercedes GLE that I also test drove or the Mercedes CL600 that I also own. As I do a reasonable amount of motorway miles this would be annoying and I am now wondering if the car is unsuitable for my use case.

The dealer seemed to think that the "Thermally and noise insulated glass" might help (this is similar to what my CL has) but did not have any cars available with it fitted for a test drive. Has anyone driven both a Cayenne with both standard glass and the noise insulated glass and if so please can you tell me how much of a difference it makes to wind noise.

The dealer also thought that the Burmester sound system included active noise cancellation, however this is not listed in the description in the configurator. Does anyone have experience of this and does this offer any benefit?

For reference the car I drove was a Cayenne eHybrid Platinum Edition.
I received my new Cayenne coupe s last week. As soon I drove it home, I notice the wind noise at 50klm. Gets louder at as the car speed up.
took it back to Porsche today and drive another to compare. Not as loud wind noise as my car.
has anyone had the same issue and how was it rectified?

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Originally Posted by Hoacayenne92B
I received my new Cayenne coupe s last week. As soon I drove it home, I notice the wind noise at 50klm. Gets louder at as the car speed up.
took it back to Porsche today and drive another to compare. Not as loud wind noise as my car.
has anyone had the same issue and how was it rectified?
Is there a difference in the type of glass between your new Cayenne and the quieter one you test drove? Does yours have the standard single pane side glass and the Cayenne you test drove have the optional double pane side glass? It makes a substantial difference in noise level from my experience. The first thing I do when I get a loaner car when my Cayenne is in for service is to roll down the glass in the drivers door part way to see if the glass is single or double pane. I was rather shocked at the noise level the first time I got a loaner car with single pane glass.
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I find the most noise inside my Cayennes is from tires, not wind. My 2021 had standard glass and 21” wheels, my 2025 S Hybrid has insulated glass front and rear and 22” wheels. Slightly more tire. Noise from the 22’s but not objectionable. Both were quiet cruisers but my data point has always been Porsches, not ultra quiet cars.
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i have a 2024 coupe w standard glass. and i agree, most of what i hear is tires. i wish i had the quite glass, but the car didn't have it, and i was buying off the lot, so there were compromises. i get the feeling, porsche doesn't obsess over quieting their vehicles. if you want to feel better, go jump in a more common vehicle like a prius, or a honda crv. drive that around for a bit. you car will then feel very quiet.
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Old Oct 31, 2024 | 06:57 PM
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thanks for all the inputs, both cayenne coupe did not have insulated glass.

cayenne s coupe was a lot noisier than the other (hybrid) like double the wind noise.

Hopefully Porsche can rectify it, 2-months way before they can even look at it.

Ill try masking tape a few areas and will keep you all posted.





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