Cayenne Turbo S
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Any rumblings as to whether or not the Turbo S model will makes it’s way into the lineup?
I canceled my wife’s 2019 Macan S order and put us on the allocation list for the 2020 Cayenne Coupé Turbo after back to back drives in both models (of course regular Cayenne) to be made aware of just how small the Macan felt. We were judging space and comfortability, not performance.
I’d hate to drop ~$160k on a Turbo model and watch the Turbo S launch 6 months later for a bit more scratch.
I’ve mostly followed the 911 lineups in terms of model variant launches and wasn’t aware as to if the SUV segments followed suit.
-Mickey
I canceled my wife’s 2019 Macan S order and put us on the allocation list for the 2020 Cayenne Coupé Turbo after back to back drives in both models (of course regular Cayenne) to be made aware of just how small the Macan felt. We were judging space and comfortability, not performance.
I’d hate to drop ~$160k on a Turbo model and watch the Turbo S launch 6 months later for a bit more scratch.
I’ve mostly followed the 911 lineups in terms of model variant launches and wasn’t aware as to if the SUV segments followed suit.
-Mickey
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Any rumblings as to whether or not the Turbo S model will makes it’s way into the lineup?
I canceled my wife’s 2019 Macan S order and put us on the allocation list for the 2020 Cayenne Coupé Turbo after back to back drives in both models (of course regular Cayenne) to be made aware of just how small the Macan felt. We were judging space and comfortability, not performance.
I’d hate to drop ~$160k on a Turbo model and watch the Turbo S launch 6 months later for a bit more scratch.
I’ve mostly followed the 911 lineups in terms of model variant launches and wasn’t aware as to if the SUV segments followed suit.
-Mickey
I canceled my wife’s 2019 Macan S order and put us on the allocation list for the 2020 Cayenne Coupé Turbo after back to back drives in both models (of course regular Cayenne) to be made aware of just how small the Macan felt. We were judging space and comfortability, not performance.
I’d hate to drop ~$160k on a Turbo model and watch the Turbo S launch 6 months later for a bit more scratch.
I’ve mostly followed the 911 lineups in terms of model variant launches and wasn’t aware as to if the SUV segments followed suit.
-Mickey
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Thanks for the info, gents. More power and more weight coming.
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Not exactly apples-apples since the Panamera has a different transmission, but, there are all sorts of road tests and videos done of the Turbo S-Hybrid in the Panny, including several that compare it to the standard Turbo. Could help you determine whether it's worth the wait, weight, and lucre.
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Turbo S is likely going to be the same set up as Panamera Turbo S, but in Cayenne that may come with more compromises - for example, wading depth is likely to be compromised like it is in Cayenne Hybrid, and there may be impact on cargo payload capacity and/or towing capacity (or maybe not).
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Not exactly apples-apples since the Panamera has a different transmission, but, there are all sorts of road tests and videos done of the Turbo S-Hybrid in the Panny, including several that compare it to the standard Turbo. Could help you determine whether it's worth the wait, weight, and lucre.
Panamera Turbo $155k base; 0-60 3.4 seconds; curb weight 4500 lbs
Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid $190k base; 0-60 3.2 seconds; 5150 lbs
30% increase in base price; ~14% heavier; hardly quicker in acceleration and top speed; likely more sluggish around curves with massive weight increase.
Turbo variant looking like a bargain, especially adding in the factor of not having to wait for new model.
Again, I know this won't be apples to apples comparing 2 different models but it's a foundation for comparison
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Agreed, and that was my basis for comparison. Not expecting all metrics to translate identically between the Panamera and Cayenne platforms but it's still valid foundation from which to work.
Panamera Turbo $155k base; 0-60 3.4 seconds; curb weight 4500 lbs
Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid $190k base; 0-60 3.2 seconds; 5150 lbs
30% increase in base price; ~14% heavier; hardly quicker in acceleration and top speed; likely more sluggish around curves with massive weight increase.
Turbo variant looking like a bargain, especially adding in the factor of not having to wait for new model.
Again, I know this won't be apples to apples comparing 2 different models but it's a foundation for comparison
Panamera Turbo $155k base; 0-60 3.4 seconds; curb weight 4500 lbs
Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid $190k base; 0-60 3.2 seconds; 5150 lbs
30% increase in base price; ~14% heavier; hardly quicker in acceleration and top speed; likely more sluggish around curves with massive weight increase.
Turbo variant looking like a bargain, especially adding in the factor of not having to wait for new model.
Again, I know this won't be apples to apples comparing 2 different models but it's a foundation for comparison
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-$30k off MSRP
-dealer ate $12k in negative equity on my trade (a lease buy out)
-dealer ate $2500 in round trip shipping on the cars
-I saved/avoided a looming $5000 mileage overage charge on my lease
-I saved sales tax on the portion of the PTT ST purchase price from the trade in; roughly $3800
An offer I couldn't refuse! Even without the final two aspects, dealer essentially gave me $45000 off.
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Agreed, and that was my basis for comparison. Not expecting all metrics to translate identically between the Panamera and Cayenne platforms but it's still valid foundation from which to work.
Panamera Turbo $155k base; 0-60 3.4 seconds; curb weight 4500 lbs
Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid $190k base; 0-60 3.2 seconds; 5150 lbs
30% increase in base price; ~14% heavier; hardly quicker in acceleration and top speed; likely more sluggish around curves with massive weight increase.
Turbo variant looking like a bargain, especially adding in the factor of not having to wait for new model.
Again, I know this won't be apples to apples comparing 2 different models but it's a foundation for comparison
Panamera Turbo $155k base; 0-60 3.4 seconds; curb weight 4500 lbs
Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid $190k base; 0-60 3.2 seconds; 5150 lbs
30% increase in base price; ~14% heavier; hardly quicker in acceleration and top speed; likely more sluggish around curves with massive weight increase.
Turbo variant looking like a bargain, especially adding in the factor of not having to wait for new model.
Again, I know this won't be apples to apples comparing 2 different models but it's a foundation for comparison
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Oh it's coming, I just don't know when. Porsche is not going to sit on its laurels while BMW launches a 600hp X5M and get away with it--no way, no how. I'll bet a dozen donuts and coffee. However, waiting to see when they'll launch? Forgetaboutit. Life is short, and I would not ever let a full year slip by "hoping" it comes soon. You may not be around to see it. Life is short, and there are no guarantees. Get the car. Trade it in, if the S in fact a better car. No worries...