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Old 09-18-2018, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scott40
... Coming down to $20k for a V8 550hp vs V6 440hp it seems and minimally different bodywork, otherwise optioned the same.
Don’t forget free Turbo embossing on the headrests, and flappy Turbo wing on the back. Porsche would charge $15K for them as options if offered separately.

Now you’re down to five grand or so. Easy choice!
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We too went S with list around the same. Have 2017 Turbo Macan. We will drive base Cayenne next week and decide if we will change Our lock date is 10/14
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My simplistic logic was that I was paying 20K + or - for 107 HP that realistically I would seldom use. Plus ins. and taxes are higher. Insurance is especially higher in SW Florida.
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Originally Posted by Richard_911
We too went S with list around the same. Have 2017 Turbo Macan. We will drive base Cayenne next week and decide if we will change Our lock date is 10/14
same boat, going to drive a base and s when they hit the dealer lots
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Originally Posted by joe 997
... Plus ins. and taxes are higher. Insurance is especially higher in SW Florida.
Even though we went Turbo over S, insurance came into play. The Turbo was about 50 percent higher than the S at $500K coverage across the board, with $500/$100 deductibles for comp and collision. Roughly $1700 per year for Turbo versus $1100 for the S.

And I get what you say about the horsepower differential that may rarely be used. Our commute involves some open two-lane county roads that aren’t too busy (or too patrolled) at certain times of the day. Those horses will be used — every one of them, several times a week. If we lived in the city (we’re not far from Dallas, TX USA), ridiculous traffic would dictate the base Cayenne as the best choice.
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The Turbo is a great choice for many people. We all buy Porsches for entertainment more than for transportation.
Old 09-20-2018, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JCWLS3

Our sales adviser confirmed that a better value proposition with Porsche is a higher trim level with fewer options, particularly at resale time. He said you lose 80 percent of the total option value the second you drive it off the lot.

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Even though we went Turbo over S, insurance came into play. The Turbo was about 50 percent higher than the S at $500K coverage across the board, with $500/$100 deductibles for comp and collision. Roughly $1700 per year for Turbo versus $1100 for the S.

No brainer for me, I would choose the Turbo if the options were a 120k S vs a 130k turbo, especially if cost of ownership is a concern as implied by the insurance comparison.

In 3 or 4 years, one would expect the highly optioned S to depreciate more than the turbo. It would not surprise me if the turbo's market value was 15k more then the S. So maybe 60k/75k or 70k/85k for the S/Turbo? So you pay 10K more upfront, plus ~1k in taxes, plus $700/year in insurance plus a few hundred more in registration, but you make it all up on resale. On top of that, you get a faster, better looking car (IMO).

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I think they’re about 15-20k difference. I just quickly looked at the difference on 2015 s and turbo. S was between 39-43k and turbo was 51-63k, holy depreciation!!
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Originally Posted by johnny2five
So you pay 10K more upfront, plus ~1k in taxes, plus $700/year in insurance plus a few hundred more in registration, but you make it all up on resale. On top of that, you get a faster, better looking car (IMO).
Bingo. Did the exact same analysis early on and came up with similar results. Either we’re both wrong; both right; or just two dudes who really wanted the Turbo in the first place.
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My S Build is ~ $116k. With discount at $108k. If it’s anything like my current one, I will keep it till the next gen comes out.

Quartzite grey
Black leather
Prem package plus
18 ways, front ventilated
Sport Design exterior
towing
Black window trim
Air suspension
Rear axle steering
PSCB
21” RS spyder wheels
heated steering wheel
crests on seats
alcan roof liner
carbon interior pkg

Suggestions?
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Really need the rear steering and pscb?
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Originally Posted by Gh0st0
Really need the rear steering and pscb?
not sure on rear steering, but brake dust on my current S is a ton, so yes on the PSCB
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What’s the replacement on pscb, and does it really last 60% longer than conventional?
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I really like the Quartzite Gray. I tried to talk my wife into it to no avail. The attached photo of a Cayenne S is from the revised Euro Cayenne catalog -- pretty close to your car but for the 22" wheels, incuding SportDesign. It looks badass, as does yours.

She did fall in love with the customized leather interior in black, with Bordeaux Red seating inserts and Chalk stitching. But at $6K plus, we passed. (See attached #2.)

Your car looks awesome, and is spec'd great. We skipped RWS due to my concerns about one more thing that'll break and be expensive to fix. But I can't argue with you including it.

Regarding PSCB, go for it. We have a 2016 Chevy SS with 6-piston Brembos in front, 4 in rear. The dust is just stupid, as will be the black mess from the standard S brakes from what I've read. I use Armor All Brake Dust Repellent, which does a decent job but it still a PITA. The price of PSCB is worth it just for the dust reduction, never mind the ridiculous and brag-worthy 10-piston calipers and cool mirror-finish tungsten-carbide rotors.




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Love those seats! And the wheels...wish you hadn't shown me that! haha

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