Is it the cappuccino or 24k gold flake in the engine oil? Rant
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I was paying about $150 for the Touareg Diesel oil changes at the VW dealer. At the same time the 07 Boxster S was close to $200 at Porsche. I won't go back to VW due to their poor customer service. I now pay on the Boxster GTS $280 which is close to what the Cayenne would be if I just had the oil changed. Don't have the receipts close by so unsure of the breakdown in labor vs oil and filter. Even if one buys at Walmart it will be $50 for oil. Auto Zone listed 5qt at $37. I always figure about $100 for supplies and rest is labor. Doesn't include the cost of a loaner car and complete wash and vacuum. Car always comes back looking real nice. It also gives me an excuse to wonder the show room ( toy store).
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$300 maybe is reasonable. Even though twice the price of Mercedes. Someone has to pay for the Fivebucks (coined by Jerry Seinfeld) cappuccino. Loaner car while two hour service? I chill in the luxurious wasting room. Fresh baked cookies. I can wash and vacuum my car. Good exercise.
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Originally Posted by Dr. G7
$300 maybe is reasonable. Even though twice the price of Mercedes. Someone has to pay for the Fivebucks (coined by Jerry Seinfeld) cappuccino. Loaner car while two hour service? I chill in the luxurious wasting room. Fresh baked cookies. I can wash and vacuum my car. Good exercise.
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Dr. G7 (07-30-2019)
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Prob. depends on dealer and their size. By me the dealer is huge, so they gave me a new Panamera 4s as a loaner for an oil change on my Cayenne SEH. I booked it a couple days ahead. had it overnight, and had fun with it. I learned the hard way on my Infiniti (same large dealer), and sat for hours and hours for a simple $40 (full synthetic btw., so right there you can see Porsche pricing is a joke) oil change only to be told there was a major transmission issue and they had to scramble to get me a car as no loaners in the fleet were left. I was going on vacation the next day too for 2 weeks and needed to haul the 5 of us and luggage so needed a similar size SUV. Ultimately dealer yanked a new car off the lot for us after I explained the situation and funnier yet is that we got home from vacation and the dealer called and asked to swap out the loaner since someone bought it sight unseen.
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Dr. G7 (07-30-2019)
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My indie charges $225 for oil change. Not too bad considering he specializes in Porsche and Lamborghini. He’s also really into cars, which helps me trust more.
If it weren’t so messy, or putting a lot more miles on it,I’d probably give it a go.
If it weren’t so messy, or putting a lot more miles on it,I’d probably give it a go.
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Dr. G7 (07-30-2019)
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It all boils down to the fact that dealers are out of their f'in minds.
I'm in Palm Beach County where everything is expensive but my indy (works on high end European cars) is about $240 which includes an extra bottle of Motul for me to stash in the trunk (since Turbos burn thru oil, I typically add a quart somewhere along the way).
I'm in Palm Beach County where everything is expensive but my indy (works on high end European cars) is about $240 which includes an extra bottle of Motul for me to stash in the trunk (since Turbos burn thru oil, I typically add a quart somewhere along the way).
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Dr. G7 (07-30-2019)
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It all boils down to the fact that dealers are out of their f'in minds.
I'm in Palm Beach County where everything is expensive but my indy (works on high end European cars) is about $240 which includes an extra bottle of Motul for me to stash in the trunk (since Turbos burn thru oil, I typically add a quart somewhere along the way).
I'm in Palm Beach County where everything is expensive but my indy (works on high end European cars) is about $240 which includes an extra bottle of Motul for me to stash in the trunk (since Turbos burn thru oil, I typically add a quart somewhere along the way).
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Prob. depends on dealer and their size. By me the dealer is huge, so they gave me a new Panamera 4s as a loaner for an oil change on my Cayenne SEH. I booked it a couple days ahead. had it overnight, and had fun with it. I learned the hard way on my Infiniti (same large dealer), and sat for hours and hours for a simple $40 (full synthetic btw., so right there you can see Porsche pricing is a joke) oil change only to be told there was a major transmission issue and they had to scramble to get me a car as no loaners in the fleet were left. I was going on vacation the next day too for 2 weeks and needed to haul the 5 of us and luggage so needed a similar size SUV. Ultimately dealer yanked a new car off the lot for us after I explained the situation and funnier yet is that we got home from vacation and the dealer called and asked to swap out the loaner since someone bought it sight unseen.
It has to be the 24K gold flake oil and fivebucks cappuccino .
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Just need to find a good Indy. I’d join a local Porsche club just so that I can ask around. Larger cities probably have at least one that knows his ish. Smaller cities, probably not.
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Madison, Wisconsin area has a dearth of Porsche cars/enthusiasts. . Closest is Chicago. 4 hours away
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Dr. I'm in Chicago. For $800 I'll drive up to you, change your oil, and buy you the most expensive drink at Starbucks.
Or you could do it yourself and use the savings to take a weekend vacation.
Or you could do it yourself and use the savings to take a weekend vacation.
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Shame that more owners are not doing these services themselves. Its an easy job, parts are cheap, and tools needed are minimal. I get not everyone is comfortable, so maybe it makes sense to sign up for you local PCA chapter and see if you can find another member willing to help/teach you.
If I added up all the money I saved on doing my own work in the past 15 years of owning german cars, it would easily pay for a nice 997.2 carrera S. That, to me, is worth the time and energy.
If I added up all the money I saved on doing my own work in the past 15 years of owning german cars, it would easily pay for a nice 997.2 carrera S. That, to me, is worth the time and energy.
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When I had my Boxster and was involved with the SF Bay Area Boxster group we'd have "work on cars" gatherings from time to time where the group would work on their cars at the same time. Others would just stop by to enjoy the camaraderie or provide assistance. Most of the time it was just doing regular maintenance items like oil changes or brake flushes. These gathering gave a lot of owners who had never worked on their own cars the opportunity, knowledge and confidence to do so.