View Poll Results: Cayenne or Panamera
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 2014
14
51.85%
Porsche Panamera Turbo S 2014
13
48.15%
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"New" Porsche decision help!?
#17
Racer
Thread Starter
Looks more masculine than the redesigned 958 version. On the 958, they made the nose kind of pointy and they rounded the rear hatch and increased the angle of the rear glass. This makes the rear hatch look more like that of a minivan than an SUV. Think about the rear hatches on good looking SUVs, like the 957 Cayenne, the BMW X5, etc. The redesigned hatch design reduces the rear cargo capacity, especially if you need to use that space for larger dogs. They also changed the rear taillights to a shape with a round teardrop as part of it that I don't like as much. The rear window of the 958 also does not open separately from the hatch, which is a feature I really like.
Then you have the real offroad, low-range transfer case of the 957 which they did away with on the 958, since having it was expensive, and many of the Cayennes were being used by soccer Moms and people that never took them off-road. The 958 also has transfer case issues requiring frequent fluid changes, and if those are missed, complete replacement of the TC.
I also like the interior design of the 957 in that it's purposeful, but not overly fancy. It's of similar design and feel to that in my 997.1. The newer cars have too much interior bling, too many electronic features, and too many screens - I want the controls I need for driving and not a lot of superfluous stuff. Some of the newer Cayennes also have the auto start-stop function that cannot be disabled with a button (don't know if the 2014 is in this group or only the newer ones).
I didn't buy my Cayenne TTS until 2016, so could've chosen any model from that date back and knew I specifically wanted an 09 TTS for the reasons mentioned above.
Then you have the real offroad, low-range transfer case of the 957 which they did away with on the 958, since having it was expensive, and many of the Cayennes were being used by soccer Moms and people that never took them off-road. The 958 also has transfer case issues requiring frequent fluid changes, and if those are missed, complete replacement of the TC.
I also like the interior design of the 957 in that it's purposeful, but not overly fancy. It's of similar design and feel to that in my 997.1. The newer cars have too much interior bling, too many electronic features, and too many screens - I want the controls I need for driving and not a lot of superfluous stuff. Some of the newer Cayennes also have the auto start-stop function that cannot be disabled with a button (don't know if the 2014 is in this group or only the newer ones).
I didn't buy my Cayenne TTS until 2016, so could've chosen any model from that date back and knew I specifically wanted an 09 TTS for the reasons mentioned above.
#18
Racer
Thread Starter
@Pillow and @Petrolhead_007 They both have a point also... You guys are giving me a hard time now I should have some answers by now, but... It became more complicated since everyone have the point in their explanations.
#19
Looks more masculine than the redesigned 958 version. On the 958, they made the nose kind of pointy and they rounded the rear hatch and increased the angle of the rear glass. This makes the rear hatch look more like that of a minivan than an SUV. Think about the rear hatches on good looking SUVs, like the 957 Cayenne, the BMW X5, etc. The redesigned hatch design reduces the rear cargo capacity, especially if you need to use that space for larger dogs. They also changed the rear taillights to a shape with a round teardrop as part of it that I don't like as much. The rear window of the 958 also does not open separately from the hatch, which is a feature I really like.
Then you have the real offroad, low-range transfer case of the 957 which they did away with on the 958, since having it was expensive, and many of the Cayennes were being used by soccer Moms and people that never took them off-road. The 958 also has transfer case issues requiring frequent fluid changes, and if those are missed, complete replacement of the TC.
I also like the interior design of the 957 in that it's purposeful, but not overly fancy. It's of similar design and feel to that in my 997.1. The newer cars have too much interior bling, too many electronic features, and too many screens - I want the controls I need for driving and not a lot of superfluous stuff. Some of the newer Cayennes also have the auto start-stop function that cannot be disabled with a button (don't know if the 2014 is in this group or only the newer ones).
I didn't buy my Cayenne TTS until 2016, so could've chosen any model from that date back and knew I specifically wanted an 09 TTS for the reasons mentioned above.
Then you have the real offroad, low-range transfer case of the 957 which they did away with on the 958, since having it was expensive, and many of the Cayennes were being used by soccer Moms and people that never took them off-road. The 958 also has transfer case issues requiring frequent fluid changes, and if those are missed, complete replacement of the TC.
I also like the interior design of the 957 in that it's purposeful, but not overly fancy. It's of similar design and feel to that in my 997.1. The newer cars have too much interior bling, too many electronic features, and too many screens - I want the controls I need for driving and not a lot of superfluous stuff. Some of the newer Cayennes also have the auto start-stop function that cannot be disabled with a button (don't know if the 2014 is in this group or only the newer ones).
I didn't buy my Cayenne TTS until 2016, so could've chosen any model from that date back and knew I specifically wanted an 09 TTS for the reasons mentioned above.
#20
Hey @stefan063, have you actually test driven both? None of these logical reasons would matter as these are the cars you buy with your heart, not with your head.
Test drive each one using your typical daily driving scenarios to see which one fits your wants better.
Test drive each one using your typical daily driving scenarios to see which one fits your wants better.
#21
Rennlist Member
I've owned 3 CTT's, (1) 955 and (2) 958's. I'm also just a bit older than you are (34).
Personally, I love my 958 Turbo as it fits my needs with interior, electronics (I love the cockpit style interior, navigation in the cluster, air suspension) - but also the power I like for daily driving.
BUT - if I owned a 957 CTTS, I wouldn't upgrade to a 958 CTTS. You'll be underwhelmed with the differences; mostly interior styling and some electronic handling capabilities (PDCC, PTV+, etc).
I think you need to drive a PTTS and get a feel for the PDK transmission and see how it is complimented with the power, as well as the difference in handling. If you like to upgrade your vehicles, the PTTS has higher HP potential.
If you are getting rid of the current CTTS for a new vehicle, and your daily driving doesn't include bad roads - I'd go with the Panamera Turbo S.
The caveat to this - you're paying MUCH more for a PTTS than a CTTS, and they're very rare compared to the CTTS (at least they are here in the US).
Personally, I love my 958 Turbo as it fits my needs with interior, electronics (I love the cockpit style interior, navigation in the cluster, air suspension) - but also the power I like for daily driving.
BUT - if I owned a 957 CTTS, I wouldn't upgrade to a 958 CTTS. You'll be underwhelmed with the differences; mostly interior styling and some electronic handling capabilities (PDCC, PTV+, etc).
I think you need to drive a PTTS and get a feel for the PDK transmission and see how it is complimented with the power, as well as the difference in handling. If you like to upgrade your vehicles, the PTTS has higher HP potential.
If you are getting rid of the current CTTS for a new vehicle, and your daily driving doesn't include bad roads - I'd go with the Panamera Turbo S.
The caveat to this - you're paying MUCH more for a PTTS than a CTTS, and they're very rare compared to the CTTS (at least they are here in the US).
#22
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
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FYI, the 957 TTS has PDCC as a standard feature (optional on the regular Turbo and the GTS), but does not have the Torque Vectoring (PTV).
#23
Three Wheelin'
I've taken a PTTS up to about 160 on the turnpike when I worked for Porsche a while back. It was fast and stable. I haven't driven a CTTS before (either gen) but the CTT is a very fast and capable vehicle. 957s do look good but are getting that dated look but still classic looking. If you are keeping the 957, go panny, if not then it's a matter of how much crap you tend to take with you on a given trip. For me I needed an SUV as I do a lot of road trips and plan to haul an expedition trailer and do camping around the country.
#24
Obviously , what works for me , might not work for you . i just traded in my 991 for a CTTS. I too , was shopping the 2 cars that you mentioned. Here's why I went Cayenne. I figured both were not going to be a 911. Performance , is very close. But the Panamera holds it value better, so the examples i could afford , were more miles or older than the CTTS. Both are close in MSRP , but check out the market for a 3 or 4 year old CTTS vs a PTS. I feel like i got more value for my money. Also, the cayenne tows , hold more of my kids crap, and isn't afraid of pot holes, curbs, light off off roading, snow , etc etc. I feel like the cayenne will do most everything a panamera will do , but not vice versa. Both are great choices .
#26
Intermediate
It's all about personal preference. I had a 2012 Panamera Turbo and loved it for it's sports car handling and power but in the end I'm more of an SUV guy. About 2 years ago I sold it and bought a BMW X6 5.0 which I like a lot but I always wanted a Cayenne - so eventually, about 2 months ago I bought a 2015 Cayenne Turbo. For me, it's so much easier to get in and out of - the Panamera is much closer to the ground. I also find the seating more comfortable in the Cayenne not to mention the cargo capacity. In the end there is no wrong choice - just personal preference. Good luck with your decision!
#28
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
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Maybe true of the 2014 models the OP is considering, but there were only 316 09 957 Turbo Ss brought to the US. I'm not sure how many were in his Country, but imagine it's a similar low number, so the car he already owns is more rare than either of those he's considering.
#29
Racer
Thread Starter
Maybe true of the 2014 models the OP is considering, but there were only 316 09 957 Turbo Ss brought to the US. I'm not sure how many were in his Country, but imagine it's a similar low number, so the car he already owns is more rare than either of those he's considering.
This is the one (Panamera) I am interested in...