Notices
Cayenne 958 - 2011-2018 2nd Generation
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By:

Recommended maintence with intake manifold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-10-2019, 12:09 PM
  #1  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default Recommended maintence with intake manifold

Looking to do the e81 upgrade to my ‘12 CTT - primarily the intake manifold and diverter - however I figure that with everything off I may want to replace some things underneath. The car has 100k and I don’t know much about previous history on it - so assume it’s all original. Ive been looking at YouTube for DIY and here as well but don’t see anything specific to this other than fixing the leaking pipe. I’m thinking coolant pipe weld fix and thermostat should be on the list - anything else? Maybe the belts may be easier to access, starter?
Also looking for the oxygen sensors - anyone know or have pictures or DIY on that?
Old 02-10-2019, 02:34 PM
  #2  
deilenberger
Banned
 
deilenberger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Spring Lake, NJ, US of A
Posts: 10,085
Received 1,144 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

What exactly is the "e81 upgrade" ??
Old 02-10-2019, 02:52 PM
  #3  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...rkit-pics.html

essentially it’s a partial conversion to a turbo s
Old 02-10-2019, 04:41 PM
  #4  
deilenberger
Banned
 
deilenberger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Spring Lake, NJ, US of A
Posts: 10,085
Received 1,144 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Slickdvl
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...rkit-pics.html

essentially it’s a partial conversion to a turbo s
That kit was for a 957 CTT right? Is the 957 intake any different than that fitted on the 958 turbo engine? Has anyone done this to a 958 CTT?

Interesting thread..
Old 02-10-2019, 05:14 PM
  #5  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

There’s a guy that has done it on here, it will fit the 958
Old 02-11-2019, 02:46 PM
  #6  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

Not a whole lot of diy’ers here?
Old 02-11-2019, 03:17 PM
  #7  
deilenberger
Banned
 
deilenberger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Spring Lake, NJ, US of A
Posts: 10,085
Received 1,144 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Slickdvl
Not a whole lot of diy’ers here?
Lot of DIY'ers - but not a lot of modifiers for performance. There are a few who have done some impressive things with the 955/957 series. Not so much on the 958.
Old 02-11-2019, 03:52 PM
  #8  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

I’m asking for what to replace under the intake manifold from a preventative approach - not performance. Same goes for oxygen sensors. I may have to film this if I get a camera in time.
Old 02-11-2019, 05:43 PM
  #9  
quickster2
Instructor
 
quickster2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Michigan
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

If your fix of the coolant pipe is a new style bolted pipe and housing then I would recommend water pump, t-stat, and serpentine belt.
Old 02-11-2019, 07:02 PM
  #10  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

I was planning to JBWeld, are you saying there are newer pipes that replace everything?
Old 02-12-2019, 12:08 AM
  #11  
deilenberger
Banned
 
deilenberger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Spring Lake, NJ, US of A
Posts: 10,085
Received 1,144 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Slickdvl
I was planning to JBWeld, are you saying there are newer pipes that replace everything?
The new thermostat housing (which has the two pipes coming out of it) was redesigned with pipes that bolt in. They are not coming out. If you look at the thread on the topic - there are photos. If you're replacing this - you'll R&R the water pump and the thermostat in order to replace the housing. To me putting the old ones back in would seem penny wise and pound foolish. Doing the labor twice when one of them fails really isn't that appealing. You also need all new seals for the thermostat, and it's not trivial to remove it from the housing in an undamaged condition.

Also curious - do you have an AllDataDIY subscription? If you're serious about DIY on a Cayenne you should. It will avoid having to ask questions like this - there will be step by step directions on this procedure.
Old 02-12-2019, 12:11 AM
  #12  
deilenberger
Banned
 
deilenberger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Spring Lake, NJ, US of A
Posts: 10,085
Received 1,144 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Slickdvl
I’m asking for what to replace under the intake manifold from a preventative approach - not performance. Same goes for oxygen sensors. I may have to film this if I get a camera in time.
The confusion comes about since you started out the thread with a performance modification. Sorry.. And cell phone pics work just fine for DIY's.

As far as how many serious DIY'ers there are here - have you looked at the Cayenne DIY subforum? That should answer that question for you.
Old 02-12-2019, 10:20 AM
  #13  
Slickdvl
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Slickdvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: FL
Posts: 659
Received 49 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

Yes I looked at the diy, not as much for 958’s as the 955/957’s; nothing at all on oxygen sensors. I’m considering all data but i sometimes find them hard to follow and the pictures are not always clear as to what you are looking at. Thanks for the info on the tsat and pump - I’ll have to look at what’s involved with all of this. Camera is more for everyone else - something I can post up and share on YouTube and then here
EDIT: useful
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...you-think.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...-firewall.html (note: diesel)
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...d-adaptor.html

Looks like ill sign up for alldataDIY - only 30 bucks for 1 car for 1 year

Last edited by Slickdvl; 02-12-2019 at 12:57 PM. Reason: found diy links that are helpful
Old 02-12-2019, 02:31 PM
  #14  
Joe Weinstein
Three Wheelin'
 
Joe Weinstein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,489
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Subscribed to thread. I would be interested in a 40hp gain, for sure.
Old 02-12-2019, 04:23 PM
  #15  
CarGuyNVA
Drifting
 
CarGuyNVA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 2,357
Received 162 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by deilenberger
That kit was for a 957 CTT right? Is the 957 intake any different than that fitted on the 958 turbo engine? Has anyone done this to a 958 CTT?

Interesting thread..
As I understand it, there's an E81 'powerkit' available for the 957 Turbo V8 and one for the 958 Turbo V8 that includes H/W and S/W (tuning) specific to each gen. It's most of the engine enhancements that are done to the Turbo S models, although the factory power rating on the E81 Turbo motor and the Turbo S motor for a given gen are not exactly the same (Turbo S a little higher IIRC). This powerkit was available as a factory option or added after the fact, available through Porsche's Tequipment program. The E81 powerkit includes the larger front brakes of the Turbo S model as well.

I'm not certain but I believe Porsche might have discontinued the 957 and 958 E81 kits already, although they might still be located as NOS somewhere.

Last edited by CarGuyNVA; 02-12-2019 at 04:35 PM. Reason: additional info


Quick Reply: Recommended maintence with intake manifold



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:45 PM.