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Old 11-22-2018, 08:56 AM
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From my initial review of PET you should be able to bolt the standard suspension in place as the attachment parts look the same. you may have 65 warning messages, which may cause limp mode or something, but mechanically im not seeing a problem
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Thanks quad for clarifying. I guess my two attempts at stating that didn't translate.
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Anyone do a 958 Turbo with PDCC and PTV+ to coilovers? Want to loose the air suspension
Old 10-12-2022, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rixtrix
Get a Touareg TDI. No air suspension offered.
This is the best option for th OP.
Old 10-12-2022, 08:27 PM
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This is not the response we want. We like the car, don't want to keep forking $1200 for Bilstein suspension and pumps as we take them over 100K. You like the air suspension wonderful, for most people its not needed, but a Turbo you have ZERO option.
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It doesn't exist. Someone asked a while ago and the conclusion was the suspensions are too different. Its the same reason the aftermarket hasn't created a solution too. Buying all those new parts would probably pay for a few sets of air suspension components and you'd be stuck with coils then. As far as taking these over 100k, the transfer case will fail on us first.
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Originally Posted by Franko T
This is not the response we want. We like the car, don't want to keep forking $1200 for Bilstein suspension and pumps as we take them over 100K. You like the air suspension wonderful, for most people its not needed, but a Turbo you have ZERO option.
How many sets of Bilstein suspensions have you gone through? And how many pumps?

Seems pretty easy to just fix it, and then drive it another 100k miles, enjoying it how it was meant to perform.
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Attached is the Air suspension vs Spring suspension. What exactly is different? The connections seem the same.
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Yes, chassis connections are the same. To replace you'd need to find a suspension properly tuned for the Turbo (aftermarket, perhaps?), and code out the PASM and Level Control from the car.
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This thread is teh funniez.

Eurowise makes a conversion kit and you can buy it with or without a 2 inch lift pre-installed. People saying it's not possible have probably never taken a wheel off

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it'll bolt up but too many other things won't work, you may even get limp mode.

ignore the dude above me. Wrong info, it doesn't exist. No one makes a 958 air delete. People saying eurowise makes a conversion probably never used google.

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Originally Posted by 1thenaton1
This thread is teh funniez.

Eurowise makes a conversion kit and you can buy it with our without a 2 inch lift pre-installed. People saying it's not possible have probably never taken a wheel off
Yeah it is.

The whole procedure seems as useful as the asian lantern bugs in usa.
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I've made my peace with the air suspension at this point, but I don't see why this won't work.

You install coilovers or stock suspension, which seems to bolt in just fine. Then all you'd need to do is program the car to think it has standard non pasm suspension. Should be a non issue for cars that could originally be optioned with steel springs (like my S). May be more of an issue with turbos that never came with coils, but I'm not sure of that.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
I've made my peace with the air suspension at this point, but I don't see why this won't work.

You install coilovers or stock suspension, which seems to bolt in just fine. Then all you'd need to do is program the car to think it has standard non pasm suspension. Should be a non issue for cars that could originally be optioned with steel springs (like my S). May be more of an issue with turbos that never came with coils, but I'm not sure of that.
You are correct 100% but the amount of money needed to go to steel springs probably cost just as much as buying new from FCPEURO and having life time warranty.
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Old 10-13-2022, 12:28 PM
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not speaking to the quality at all, but you can get a set of coilovers for $1250, which is roughly the cost of one air strut.

https://ceika-store.com/products/cct1m628

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bc-racin...-kit/y-08~bcr/

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