Tune or Warranty?
03-23-2018, 01:55 PM
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Tune or Warranty?
Happiness or Peace of Mind.....Just bought a 2011 CTT with 69k miles. Was a CPO until mid of last year. Well taken care of by a Porsche enthusiast. Porsche dealer said no issues, and all recalls complete and transfer case replaced recently. So.... I am looking at a GIAC tune plus a secondary cat delete pipe. The tune and the pipe will cost me about 3500 installed. The warranty info is below. Good coverage and price is not bad. I am looking at the 2 year option. Cannot have anything that will affect the performance of the vehicle, otherwise it will void the warranty.
Warranty Offered By: Auto Advantage Inc. Coverage INCLUDES breakdown and failure due to NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR on all covered items.
Preferred Component Type Bumper-To-Bumper Coverage
$200.00 Deductible Per Repair Visit
1 Year/12,000 Additional Miles- $2,429.00
2 Year/24,000 Additional Miles- $3,290.00
3 Year/36,000 Additional Miles- $5,100.00
For Optional Luxury Package please add $215.00
* Towing
* Rental
* Lockout Service
* Trip Interruption Protection
* Warranty Renewability
* Transferable to the next owner
“WHAT IS COVERED"
***Preferred Component Type Bumper-To-Bumper Coverage***
Engine: Cylinder Block, Cylinder Head(s), Rotary Housing and all Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the engine including: Pistons; Piston Rings; Connecting Rod Bearings; Crankshaft; Crankshaft Main Bearings; Camshaft; Camshaft Bearings; Cam Followers; Timing Chain or Belt; Timing Gears, Guides, Tensioners; Rocker Arms; Rocker Shafts; Rocker Bushings; Cylinder Head Valves; Valve Guides; Valve Lifters; Valve Springs; Valve Seals; Valve Retainers; Valve Seats; Push Rods; Water Pump; Fuel Pump; Oil Pump and Oil Pump Housing; Harmonic Balancer; Oil Pan; Timing Chain Cover; Intake and Exhaust Manifolds; Valve Covers; Engine Mounts; Cam Gear Bolt; Harmonic Balancer Bolt; and Head Bolts.
Turbocharger / Supercharger: (factory installed only) Turbocharger / Supercharger Housing and All Internally Lubricated Parts.
Transmission: (Automatic or Standard) Transmission Case and all Internally Lubricated Parts plus: Torque Converter; Flywheel/Flex Plate; Vacuum Modulator; Electronic Shift Control Unit; Transmission Cooler; Transmission Mounts; Oil Pan; Slave/Clutch Master Cylinder; Pilot Bearing; and Throw-Out Bearing.
Transfer Case: Transfer Case and All Internally Lubricated Parts.
Drive Axle: (Front and Rear) Drive Axle Case; All Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the Drive Axle; Locking Hubs; Drive Shafts; Center Support Bearings; Universal Joints; Constant Velocity Joints; Axle Bearings; Four–Wheel Drive Actuator; and Differential Cover.
Steering: All Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the Steering Box; Rack and Pinion Gear; Power Steering Pump; Power Steering Hoses; Steering Knuckles; Pitman Arm; Idler Arm; Tie Rod Ends and Drag Link; Steering Dampner; Upper and Lower Steering Column Shafts and Couplings, including Internal Tilt–Wheel Mechanism; Steering Box and Rack and Pinion Gear Housings; Power Steering Assist Cylinder; Power Steering Pump Cooler; Twin “I” Beam & Bushings; and Steering Travel Stop.
Rear Wheel Steering: Rear Steering Shaft and Couplings; Power Cylinder and Pump; Electronic Control Unit/Solenoid; Phase Control Unit; Stepper Motor; Steering Box; Control Valve; Rack; and Tie Rod Ends.
Brakes: Master Cylinder; Power Brake Cylinder; Vacuum/Hydro Assist Booster; Disc Brake Caliper; Wheel Cylinders; Compensating Valve; Brake Hydraulic Lines and Fittings; Hydraulic Control Unit; Hydraulic Trailer Brake Assembly and its Components. The following ABS Parts are also covered: Electronic Control Processor; Wheel Speed Sensors; Hydraulic Pump/Motor Assembly; Pressure Modulator Valve/Isolation Dump Valve; and Accumulator.
Electrical: Alternator; Voltage Regulator; Starter Motor; Starter Solenoid and Starter Drive; Engine Compartment Wiring Harness; Computerized Timing Control Unit; Electronic Ignition Module; Crank Angle Sensor; Knock Sensor; Ignition Switch; Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder; Front and Rear Window Wiper Motor, Washer Pump and Switch; Stop Lamp Switch; Headlamp Switch; Turn Signal Switch; Heater/A.C. Blower Speed Switch; Manual Heater/A.C. Control Head; Horns; Trailer Brake Wiring Harness; Auxiliary Power Supply Wiring; Exterior Cab Lighting; Auxiliary Fuel Tank Switching Unit and Switch; and O-2 Sensors.
Enhanced Electrical: Electronic Instrument Cluster; Distributor; Ignition Coil; Electronic Combination Entry System (Does Not Include Transmitters and Receivers for Remote Locks); Cruise Control Module, Transducer, Servo and Amplifier; Powertrain Control Module; Headlamp Motors; Power Window Motor; Power Seat Motor; Power Mirror Motor; Power Antenna Motor/Mast Assembly; Convertible Top Motor; Power Sunroof Motor; Power Window Switch; Cruise Control Engagement Switch; Power Seat Switch; Power Mirror Motor Switch; Rear Defogger Switch; Power Door Lock Actuator and Switch.
Optional Luxury Package: Power Tailgate Lock; Illuminated Visor Vanity; Mileage Computer; Emergency Trunk Release; Automatic Climate Control Programmer. The: GPS/Navigation System; Factory Installed TV/VCR/DVD players.
Air Conditioner: Condenser; Compressor, Compressor Clutch and Pulley; Air Conditioning Lines and Hoses; Evaporator; Idler Pulley and Idler Pulley Bearing; High/Low Compressor Cut–Off Switch; Expansion Valve; and Pressure Cycling Switch. The following parts are also covered if they are required in connection with the repair of a covered part listed above only if they have failed: Accumulator/Receiver Dryer; Orifice Tube; Oil and Refrigerant.
Front and Rear Suspension: Upper and Lower Control Arms; Control Arm Shafts and Bearings or Bushings; Upper and Lower Ball Joints; Radius Arm and Bushings; Torsion Bars, Mounts and Bushings; Stabilizer Bar, Links and Bushings; Struts; Strut Bearing Plates; Spindle and Spindle Support; Wheel Bearings; Pannard Bar; Track Bar; Suspension Bumpers; Leaf Springs; Leaf Spring Shackles and Hardware; Load Assist Shocks; Shocks; Load Assist Springs; and Coil Springs.
Variable Dampening Suspension: Compressor; Control Module; Dampening Actuator; Solenoid; Struts; Height Sensor; and Mode Selector Switch.
Fuel Delivery: Fuel Injection Pump and Injectors; Vacuum Pump; Fuel Tank; Fuel Tank Sending Unit; Metal Fuel Delivery Lines; Fuel Pressure Regulator; and Fuel Tank Switching Unit/Switch.
Cooling: Engine Cooling Fan and Motor; Fan Clutch; Belt Tensioner; Radiator; Heater Core; Thermostat; Blower Motor; Hot Water Valve; Engine Oil Cooler; Cooler Lines and Fittings.
Seals & Gaskets: Seals and gaskets of covered components designed to prevent the loss of necessary coolants, lubricants, and fluids.
Warranty Offered By: Auto Advantage Inc. Coverage INCLUDES breakdown and failure due to NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR on all covered items.
Preferred Component Type Bumper-To-Bumper Coverage
$200.00 Deductible Per Repair Visit
1 Year/12,000 Additional Miles- $2,429.00
2 Year/24,000 Additional Miles- $3,290.00
3 Year/36,000 Additional Miles- $5,100.00
For Optional Luxury Package please add $215.00
- Low Down Payment Financing Available
* Towing
* Rental
* Lockout Service
* Trip Interruption Protection
* Warranty Renewability
* Transferable to the next owner
“WHAT IS COVERED"
***Preferred Component Type Bumper-To-Bumper Coverage***
Engine: Cylinder Block, Cylinder Head(s), Rotary Housing and all Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the engine including: Pistons; Piston Rings; Connecting Rod Bearings; Crankshaft; Crankshaft Main Bearings; Camshaft; Camshaft Bearings; Cam Followers; Timing Chain or Belt; Timing Gears, Guides, Tensioners; Rocker Arms; Rocker Shafts; Rocker Bushings; Cylinder Head Valves; Valve Guides; Valve Lifters; Valve Springs; Valve Seals; Valve Retainers; Valve Seats; Push Rods; Water Pump; Fuel Pump; Oil Pump and Oil Pump Housing; Harmonic Balancer; Oil Pan; Timing Chain Cover; Intake and Exhaust Manifolds; Valve Covers; Engine Mounts; Cam Gear Bolt; Harmonic Balancer Bolt; and Head Bolts.
Turbocharger / Supercharger: (factory installed only) Turbocharger / Supercharger Housing and All Internally Lubricated Parts.
Transmission: (Automatic or Standard) Transmission Case and all Internally Lubricated Parts plus: Torque Converter; Flywheel/Flex Plate; Vacuum Modulator; Electronic Shift Control Unit; Transmission Cooler; Transmission Mounts; Oil Pan; Slave/Clutch Master Cylinder; Pilot Bearing; and Throw-Out Bearing.
Transfer Case: Transfer Case and All Internally Lubricated Parts.
Drive Axle: (Front and Rear) Drive Axle Case; All Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the Drive Axle; Locking Hubs; Drive Shafts; Center Support Bearings; Universal Joints; Constant Velocity Joints; Axle Bearings; Four–Wheel Drive Actuator; and Differential Cover.
Steering: All Internally Lubricated Parts contained within the Steering Box; Rack and Pinion Gear; Power Steering Pump; Power Steering Hoses; Steering Knuckles; Pitman Arm; Idler Arm; Tie Rod Ends and Drag Link; Steering Dampner; Upper and Lower Steering Column Shafts and Couplings, including Internal Tilt–Wheel Mechanism; Steering Box and Rack and Pinion Gear Housings; Power Steering Assist Cylinder; Power Steering Pump Cooler; Twin “I” Beam & Bushings; and Steering Travel Stop.
Rear Wheel Steering: Rear Steering Shaft and Couplings; Power Cylinder and Pump; Electronic Control Unit/Solenoid; Phase Control Unit; Stepper Motor; Steering Box; Control Valve; Rack; and Tie Rod Ends.
Brakes: Master Cylinder; Power Brake Cylinder; Vacuum/Hydro Assist Booster; Disc Brake Caliper; Wheel Cylinders; Compensating Valve; Brake Hydraulic Lines and Fittings; Hydraulic Control Unit; Hydraulic Trailer Brake Assembly and its Components. The following ABS Parts are also covered: Electronic Control Processor; Wheel Speed Sensors; Hydraulic Pump/Motor Assembly; Pressure Modulator Valve/Isolation Dump Valve; and Accumulator.
Electrical: Alternator; Voltage Regulator; Starter Motor; Starter Solenoid and Starter Drive; Engine Compartment Wiring Harness; Computerized Timing Control Unit; Electronic Ignition Module; Crank Angle Sensor; Knock Sensor; Ignition Switch; Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder; Front and Rear Window Wiper Motor, Washer Pump and Switch; Stop Lamp Switch; Headlamp Switch; Turn Signal Switch; Heater/A.C. Blower Speed Switch; Manual Heater/A.C. Control Head; Horns; Trailer Brake Wiring Harness; Auxiliary Power Supply Wiring; Exterior Cab Lighting; Auxiliary Fuel Tank Switching Unit and Switch; and O-2 Sensors.
Enhanced Electrical: Electronic Instrument Cluster; Distributor; Ignition Coil; Electronic Combination Entry System (Does Not Include Transmitters and Receivers for Remote Locks); Cruise Control Module, Transducer, Servo and Amplifier; Powertrain Control Module; Headlamp Motors; Power Window Motor; Power Seat Motor; Power Mirror Motor; Power Antenna Motor/Mast Assembly; Convertible Top Motor; Power Sunroof Motor; Power Window Switch; Cruise Control Engagement Switch; Power Seat Switch; Power Mirror Motor Switch; Rear Defogger Switch; Power Door Lock Actuator and Switch.
Optional Luxury Package: Power Tailgate Lock; Illuminated Visor Vanity; Mileage Computer; Emergency Trunk Release; Automatic Climate Control Programmer. The: GPS/Navigation System; Factory Installed TV/VCR/DVD players.
Air Conditioner: Condenser; Compressor, Compressor Clutch and Pulley; Air Conditioning Lines and Hoses; Evaporator; Idler Pulley and Idler Pulley Bearing; High/Low Compressor Cut–Off Switch; Expansion Valve; and Pressure Cycling Switch. The following parts are also covered if they are required in connection with the repair of a covered part listed above only if they have failed: Accumulator/Receiver Dryer; Orifice Tube; Oil and Refrigerant.
Front and Rear Suspension: Upper and Lower Control Arms; Control Arm Shafts and Bearings or Bushings; Upper and Lower Ball Joints; Radius Arm and Bushings; Torsion Bars, Mounts and Bushings; Stabilizer Bar, Links and Bushings; Struts; Strut Bearing Plates; Spindle and Spindle Support; Wheel Bearings; Pannard Bar; Track Bar; Suspension Bumpers; Leaf Springs; Leaf Spring Shackles and Hardware; Load Assist Shocks; Shocks; Load Assist Springs; and Coil Springs.
Variable Dampening Suspension: Compressor; Control Module; Dampening Actuator; Solenoid; Struts; Height Sensor; and Mode Selector Switch.
Fuel Delivery: Fuel Injection Pump and Injectors; Vacuum Pump; Fuel Tank; Fuel Tank Sending Unit; Metal Fuel Delivery Lines; Fuel Pressure Regulator; and Fuel Tank Switching Unit/Switch.
Cooling: Engine Cooling Fan and Motor; Fan Clutch; Belt Tensioner; Radiator; Heater Core; Thermostat; Blower Motor; Hot Water Valve; Engine Oil Cooler; Cooler Lines and Fittings.
Seals & Gaskets: Seals and gaskets of covered components designed to prevent the loss of necessary coolants, lubricants, and fluids.
03-23-2018, 07:21 PM
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Welcome to the 958 forum! One question - who is providing this warranty and who would you be buying it from?
As far as performance vs warranty - I'd suggest trying out the Cayenne for a few days. I've found the turbo has adequate power for the USA..
As far as performance vs warranty - I'd suggest trying out the Cayenne for a few days. I've found the turbo has adequate power for the USA..
03-24-2018, 07:10 PM
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Here are some things to consider re. extended warranties:
- Most of them (maybe all of them) contain language that limits the total cash payments the warranty company has to make. Most of the time this limit will be equal to what you paid for the vehicle. So if you pay $5000 for a 3-year warranty and paid $35,000 for the vehicle, the warranty company's maximum out of pocket for your warranty coverage to be used up would be $35,000. But check policy language. They may limit their liability in some other way they don't come right out and tell you.
- Is the warranty renewable or extendable and if so, what happens to the cost of the warranty?
- How long has the warranty company been in business... one of their chief tactics (besides making everything take way too long if there is any dispute over coverage or cost)? One of the ways car warranty companies make money is to go out of business with no announcement so you are left with some portion of your policy becoming useless.
- Who decides whether you use a Porsche part or aftermarket part? This could be a huge hassle when they insist on using a $400 Chinese clone part instead of a $650 legitimate part from another supplier or a $1300 part from Porsche. Sometimes it may not matter what part is used, but sometimes it could be a huge deal.
- What to other people who have purchased car warranties from the same warranty company have to say about their experience? (online reviews, do they get the runaround? do they annoy repair shops to the point the shop doesn't want to work with them? do they slow-down repairs while waiting for call-backs or decisions? how do they deal with disputes?
Failure to do that level of research could mean a very unhappy extended warranty experience. You should also watch out for a shop that might let-slip that you don't have secondary cats installed and that the engine computer is running a non-factory tuning curve. If they let that info get to the warranty company, you could find yourself in breach with no recourse and no refund.
- Most of them (maybe all of them) contain language that limits the total cash payments the warranty company has to make. Most of the time this limit will be equal to what you paid for the vehicle. So if you pay $5000 for a 3-year warranty and paid $35,000 for the vehicle, the warranty company's maximum out of pocket for your warranty coverage to be used up would be $35,000. But check policy language. They may limit their liability in some other way they don't come right out and tell you.
- Is the warranty renewable or extendable and if so, what happens to the cost of the warranty?
- How long has the warranty company been in business... one of their chief tactics (besides making everything take way too long if there is any dispute over coverage or cost)? One of the ways car warranty companies make money is to go out of business with no announcement so you are left with some portion of your policy becoming useless.
- Who decides whether you use a Porsche part or aftermarket part? This could be a huge hassle when they insist on using a $400 Chinese clone part instead of a $650 legitimate part from another supplier or a $1300 part from Porsche. Sometimes it may not matter what part is used, but sometimes it could be a huge deal.
- What to other people who have purchased car warranties from the same warranty company have to say about their experience? (online reviews, do they get the runaround? do they annoy repair shops to the point the shop doesn't want to work with them? do they slow-down repairs while waiting for call-backs or decisions? how do they deal with disputes?
Failure to do that level of research could mean a very unhappy extended warranty experience. You should also watch out for a shop that might let-slip that you don't have secondary cats installed and that the engine computer is running a non-factory tuning curve. If they let that info get to the warranty company, you could find yourself in breach with no recourse and no refund.