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Old 02-22-2015 | 12:37 PM
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if it makes you feel any better....
i use royal purple on my 957t and 996t's....depending on the season it's a mixture between 0w40 5w40 and 20w50....car runs better in my head...no oil analysis
Old 02-22-2015 | 12:48 PM
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if it makes you feel any better....
i use royal purple on my 957t and 996t's....depending on the season it's a mixture between 0w40 5w40 and 20w50....car runs better in my head...no oil analysis
Thanks !! I e-mailed them ( RP)asking what if anything they had was " Porsche approved" and what they recommend for my soon to be new baby.
Old 02-22-2015 | 12:58 PM
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One of the difficulties in this is you will likely not see "benefits" or "drawbacks" while you own the truck. From what you posted, it looks like you have gone through cars rather quickly. It could be 150k miles or more before you would see the negative or positive repercussions of going against manufacturer recommendations. Maybe you'd hit those high mileage numbers based upon your driving history... But Porsche does bench testing in house simulating hundreds of thousands of miles "driven" (or more) and make recommendations based upon those results--not just the engine "idles quieter."

People get very passionate about a product which has "always" worked for them... Even though the majority of time, from my experience, there is zero qualitative data supporting their "results." Case in point, my grandfather who has put Marvel Mystery Oil in his '83 Benz diesel since birth, so naturally that is why the car has made it to 600,000 miles (and counting). One data point does not make an argument to blaze your own trail in the care of your car's engine when the manufacturer did the qualitative testing for you already.

Sounds like you're sticking with something from the "approved" list, which is good.

Good luck.
Yeah, I'm usually good or keep a vehicle for 4yrs or 150-200K miles depending on how well it holds up. Don't get me wrong, LR has been good to me, but I have seen the quality gone down the drain, esp with the 12 I currently have and is getting retired from my garage sooner than expected.

I've heard of the Cayenne holding up well, but just dumb things failing. I've gone ahead and ordered the OEM fix for then driveshaft issue just to keep in my garage, I always carry 2 quarts of oil with me tucked into the sparetire area, tow straps, airpump, etc because of the amount of time I am on the road and sometimes I just want to be home and I'll do a dinner meeting until 9,10,11,12 at night and just drive however long home. AAA and either factory or extended warranty always ready.

I agree, which is why I posted the question. 1: I don't like mobil as a company, 2: always open to suggestions , 3: tend to always go a few notches above factory recommendations" if I can just because I have been a person that believes " you get what you pay for". Just my 2-cents
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Just curious... but what synthetic base stock is Royal Purple oil? Group III or Group IV? Anyone know?
Old 02-22-2015 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cwazyeurodrivr
Thanks !! I e-mailed them ( RP)asking what if anything they had was " Porsche approved"
Not.

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Old 02-22-2015 | 03:41 PM
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Just found this doc, it's from 2006, but interesting

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf
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Originally Posted by cwazyeurodrivr
Just found this doc, it's from 2006, but interesting http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf
Wow. That's a heck of a study.
Old 02-22-2015 | 10:59 PM
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Aside from Porsche warrantee issues; RP and Redline are true synthetics (unlike Mobil 1). Both are excellent oils and I’m sure either one would exceed the Mobil 1 specs. Porsche specs M1 because of contractual deals that are more about money than quality...
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When we settle this, let's take on a less contentious subject; like naming the best scotch.
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Originally Posted by Matt O.
I would stick with Porsche recommendations for all fluids unless substantial evidence to the contrary is presented for a reason not to. Food for thought.
Mobil1 shearing down to a 0W30 after 5K miles isn't enough? If you sampled M1 at 5K miles in your car, it would be classified as a 0W30. M1 0W40 is on the very low end of what you should be running in a Cayenne given that the range is 0W40 up to 5W50.

This is a good chunk of the reason so many Cayenne drivers run near the bottom end of the oil consumption curve. It doesn't take much for a car that has a factory approval to run 5W50, to burn through 0W30.
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Originally Posted by 16thgreen
Porsche specs M1 because of contractual deals that are more about money than quality...
Sad but so true! It's all about the dollars anymore. Shell use to be the certified Porsche brand of oil back in the day...
Old 02-23-2015 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wrinkledpants
Mobil1 shearing down to a 0W30 after 5K miles isn't enough? If you sampled M1 at 5K miles in your car, it would be classified as a 0W30. M1 0W40 is on the very low end of what you should be running in a Cayenne given that the range is 0W40 up to 5W50.

This is a good chunk of the reason so many Cayenne drivers run near the bottom end of the oil consumption curve. It doesn't take much for a car that has a factory approval to run 5W50, to burn through 0W30.
I'm not saying it's not! That is certainly valid evidence. I have Mobil 1 in my 955 (first oil change since purchasing) and when I am at 7k miles... with this information I will take a sample and send it off to have analyzed.

I am not against going outside the box on this and other maintenance items, there just needs to be a good reason. Is M1 5W50 adequate for the 955? Or is that article posted above (PDF) considered the definitive oil testing?
Old 02-23-2015 | 11:14 AM
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Has anyone ran 15w-50 in there CTT's? I tried it in a S4 years ago (2.7tt one) and it worked very well for the summer months in Michigan. I went back to 0w-40 M1 for the winter.
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Originally Posted by williamr91
Has anyone ran 15w-50 in there CTT's? I tried it in a S4 years ago (2.7tt one) and it worked very well for the summer months in Michigan. I went back to 0w-40 M1 for the winter.
I haven't but it would probably be a good oil in the summer for the CTT. I run this oil in my 944 turbo with great results (summer only car). Then you could switch back to 0w40 Mobil for the winter season.

Anyone see the below video? I would be interested in seeing Shell Rotell T6 vs the Mobil in a similar test. I'm pretty disappointed in RP's oil in that test below!


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That article was very interesting -- just finished it. Definitely has me skeptical about M1 right now. Subscribed to this thread to learn what the RL experts have to say...


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