kosmo

http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=874

-The Base V6 Model is no more
-The S gets a 3.6L V6 T w/ 420hp
-Macan Sytle Steering wheel

Looks like prices are up quite a bit too. The S increases from USD 66,800 to 74,100. Hopefully theres more content.

I like it, except I was hoping for a PDK option, larger mirrors and Macan type rear lights

Spyerx

Pretty minor Facelift. New engine for s, no base v6, interior is same except for wheels and pretty minor changes to front and rear bumpers.

gnat

No base model? Yet?

Given the lack luster sales of the current Hybrid I'm surprised they put money into the program.

I really don't like those headlights

About time the Xenons were standard across the line.

WTF? The HP and TQ didn't change for the diesel? Audi and VW are pulling better numbers out of the motor. They had to have mixed up before and after right?

Based on the price increases, you're still paying for the new "standard" options. I understand they are trying to widen the gap between the Macan and Cayenne, but I think they did it in the wrong direction Oh well, glad I got mine when I did.

And how has them developing an entirely new motor worked out in the past?

I think I'd wait a generation or two...

kosmo

its says the fenders and Hood are also NEW.

Yes, GNAT the Diesel engine figures are a let down.


BTW I think the Macan will see a price adjust as well.

catamount

So the diesel is the new base model and it looks like the GTS is gone as well. :-(

endless_corners

Weaksauce

kosmo

the GTS usually comes a little later. I bet the GTS and TTS will come in 2016

bgsntth

The end of an era: No manual transmission.

Was hoping it would be offered with the 3.0T or 3.6T - delusional on my part.

ArneeA

It's a minor facelift but at lesat they somewhat got rid of the Hyndai rear taillights.

gnat

I would expect the GTS to still be a NA motor too when it finally comes. Might be the last though

I like the look of my 958, but it does look too much like the Asian SUVs. I think this redesign (at least in the rear) takes it even further in that direction.

I like the new steering wheel except that the airbag is smaller (I had designs on retrofitting it, but having to replace the AB too puts it out of the justifiable range for me).

I also like that the grill looks more aggressive on the diesel/S/hybrid, but I think the current GTS/TT grill looks better.

kosmo

I hope so. The problem will be the cost to improve the NA v8 to outperform the "lesser" V6 T. A PDK could be the ticket.

RESP

Not much of a change to the styling.

Guess I won't be trading in my 12 base V-6 any time soon.

SteveFromMN

Price way up on the S. $74100 Looks like Bose and PCM included in that price. Xenion lights and new Steering Wheel too but not sure if heating of wheel is included (A must here in MN).
I've got a slot but have not been able to configure yet.

gnat

Wow. I just looked at the detailed specs for the new S. I'm shocked that they gave it as much as they did. I expect with a bit of tuning you'd get close to TT numbers out of that thing at a significant (overall) savings

Not only will the cost be an issue for development, but there is now a much narrower window between the S and TT for the GTS to fit in (currently it fits well between the two power-wise).

Contrary to my thoughts in the current diesel thread, with these numbers I'd be hard pressed to justify the diesel. I love my diesel, but if the S is pretty much the same torque and almost twice the HP the $14k difference is worth the upgrade cost. By moving to a TT motor the S should see an improvement in MPG too (not diesel territory, but better than the current).

VAG continues to make odd (to me) pricing decisions with the Cayenne and it's siblings.

kosmo

i noticed that too. I cant believe a camera isnt standard fair given the price point and the huge blind spots. Oh well, at least the floor mats are "thrown in."