jrotsaert

I (my wife really) have a 2011 Cayenne that is coming out of lease right now. I was hoping to get in a Macan but when it showed up it was really too small. So small that it made it impossible for a normal family to go golfing... I know that I should not have been surprised but anyway, now I need a replacement for the Cayenne and I'm loathe to get another Cayenne since nothing has changed on it and there is a face lift coming in the next few months. I've looked at the usual suspects: X5, ML, GL, Q7, and ultimately the 2014 RRS which I really like.
It costs about the same as a Cayenne S in V6 spec and a V8 is less than a Turbo and has 500 HP and is truly amazing to drive...
I am close to pulling the trigger but was looking for real like experience before doing so. Anyone got input?

mudman2

go for it

blackland

Range Rover is usually ranked near the bottom in reliability. Has that improved at all? They do look good though...

JoWilson

They're still not very reliable and do not hold value well. I have the same V8 in my D110 and have owned a Range Rover.

It is a nice truck though.

endless_corners

Current gen RRS has gotten a lot of praise.. if you are leasing then reliability is a NON issue. I don't see how you can go wrong.

DWPC

If the warranty provides a similar loaner and the LR dealer (just in case) is close by, no problem. I live 110 miles from both the closest LR and Porsche dealers, so that scratched the RRS for me.

duh

Rover quality has been increasing year after year. The newer models issues tend to fall in 2 categories-assembly issues, and electrical quirks. The assembly issues usually get taken care of in the first year of warranty, then the electrical quirks come and go. Everything from poorly sealed connectors corroding to software bugs in the modules . I havent seen a new design sport higher than 30k miles yet, so the future of premature wear items is yet unonown.

RESP

Our realtor went from a Turbo Cayenne to a RRS.

His comments show him to be happy with it.

I have spent some time in and out of it over the last few months. (Bought a new property.)
If you like being engaged as a driver, the Cayenne is much better.
If you are looking for image and style I feel the RRS may be better.

Things I don't like about the RRS -
Step up is much higher - the AS on our Cayenne is mostly in low or load height when we park.
The gear selector drives me crazy. Maybe if I had it as a daily driver, I would get used to it.

I do like the look of the RRS - has a presence and doesn't look like every other SUV out there.

Good luck!

endless_corners

I still dont understand why all the RR's of the last decade continue with the tradition of cheesy lighting. The headlights look goofy to me and the rears as usual look like ebay lights. Thats my one complaint style-wise... the lights are gaudy. The front led daytime running lights look terrible to me.. jeep's GC implements it much better.

JoWilson

That's always been the issue with LR... Still thanks to Lucas electrical, isn't it?
I've had so many electrical issues with Landies in the past. Things that shouldn't be an issue. Things that are absolutely mind boggling/ improbable.

jrotsaert

Very helpful thanks. There actually is a setting on the RRS to go up and down in seconds - I played with it and liked it. I had issues with the gear selector. That trigger button is a pain but I'm sure that I'll get used to it for the 2 days a week that I may be in it (I have a 991 and Spyder for the week) since it's my wife's car. In terms of driving, the V8 is incredibly engaging with the Dynamic package... I decided to buy the 2011 Cayenne from the lease, keep it until year end and ordered a 2015 RRS for delivery in December... I can change my mind until August... doubt that I will but you never know... Thanks to all!

duh

Like the engine stalling every time you turn on the left turn signal
That one was fun....

kmagnuss

I've had 2 RR's and vowed never to buy another LR product. My 91' Wrangler with 150k miles that is worth about 1/30th of my last LR is infinitely more reliable than it was.
Yes, the newer LR's are more reliable than the older ones... but that's like saying a 300 lb Rosanne Barr is thin compared to the 350 lb Rosanne Barr. Yeah... better but still a fat slob.

PCA1983

In the old days we used to joke that Lucas was the Prince of Darkness LOLs! Lucas was that bad!
The other thing I should mention is the RRS looks like the Ford Edge, IMO. It's too ugly for my taste. Plus the fact that I'm a lifelong Porsche fan and 30+ years member of the PCA. It's gotta be a Porsche for me.

JoWilson

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