Cayenne Production Numbers?
#1
Cayenne Production Numbers?
What is the breakdown between V6, CS and CTT? I assume V6 was the bulk of the sales but I can't seem to find much on how many of each type Porsche builds. All I saw so far was that in 2012 77,000 Cayennes were built.
#2
Why would you assume the V6 was the bulk of the sales?
Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Porsche is a premium "sports car" manufacture. Which, to me seems like it would attract many buyers that want some level of Performance! (Kinda the whole point behind a Cayenne is what it does)
People in general tend to buy he most HP they feel they can afford. The Touareg and X5 offered more power/options than a V6 Cayenne.
I do see the there is a percentage of people just trying to buy the "badge" and all they could afford was the V6. But that seems like it would be a smaller percentage than those that wanted a powerful good handling, towing capable, luxury SUV!
I'd bet there are more "S" models than anything!
Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Porsche is a premium "sports car" manufacture. Which, to me seems like it would attract many buyers that want some level of Performance! (Kinda the whole point behind a Cayenne is what it does)
People in general tend to buy he most HP they feel they can afford. The Touareg and X5 offered more power/options than a V6 Cayenne.
I do see the there is a percentage of people just trying to buy the "badge" and all they could afford was the V6. But that seems like it would be a smaller percentage than those that wanted a powerful good handling, towing capable, luxury SUV!
I'd bet there are more "S" models than anything!
#3
Why would you assume the V6 was the bulk of the sales?
Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Porsche is a premium "sports car" manufacture. Which, to me seems like it would attract many buyers that want some level of Performance! (Kinda the whole point behind a Cayenne is what it does)
People in general tend to buy he most HP they feel they can afford. The Touareg and X5 offered more power/options than a V6 Cayenne.
I do see the there is a percentage of people just trying to buy the "badge" and all they could afford was the V6. But that seems like it would be a smaller percentage than those that wanted a powerful good handling, towing capable, luxury SUV!
I'd bet there are more "S" models than anything!
Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Porsche is a premium "sports car" manufacture. Which, to me seems like it would attract many buyers that want some level of Performance! (Kinda the whole point behind a Cayenne is what it does)
People in general tend to buy he most HP they feel they can afford. The Touareg and X5 offered more power/options than a V6 Cayenne.
I do see the there is a percentage of people just trying to buy the "badge" and all they could afford was the V6. But that seems like it would be a smaller percentage than those that wanted a powerful good handling, towing capable, luxury SUV!
I'd bet there are more "S" models than anything!
#5
I think you also need to consider that while the Cayenne can do amazing things (track, tow, off road), very few were bought with any of that in mind. Like any other upper end SUV it's primary usage is shuttling kids around and/or commuting.
All that said, in my area I see a lot more S' in the 955 and 957 models with the base coming in second. The TT would be 3rd with the GTS and TTS competing for the title of "least seen". For the 958s the base seems to be the more common followed by the S. I haven't decided if the Diesel is eating into the base or S numbers, but it's definitely an up and comer. The rest of the 958s are pretty uncommon sightings.
I think part of that was that previously when I'd been on a Porsche lot it was mostly the S they had sitting there while now it seems there are more base (and now diesel) models on the lot. When you account for "badge buyers" being less likely/interested in waiting for an order it stands to reason that whichever model is available on the lot is what is going to see the most sales.
#6
I agree that many "badge buyers" buy new.
But, for the money, of all you wanted was a luxury SUV then BMW, Mercedes, VW, Audi make better options.(more features and softer ride per dollar) So the differentiator is the performance, especially when the 955 was introduced.
So the "reason to buy" the Porsche over the other choices was performance. Which the V6 didn't have! So I would still think that more of the V8 s were sold!
But, for the money, of all you wanted was a luxury SUV then BMW, Mercedes, VW, Audi make better options.(more features and softer ride per dollar) So the differentiator is the performance, especially when the 955 was introduced.
So the "reason to buy" the Porsche over the other choices was performance. Which the V6 didn't have! So I would still think that more of the V8 s were sold!
#7
I once read - before I bought mine - that production was around 60%/20%/20% for S/TT/Base for 955s/957s.
So I've probably seen 30 different ones in the last two years on the roads, and those numbers are fairly accurate (assuming the rear badges are correct). But I've seen 2 or 3 TTSs, which seems too high considering maybe only 5 or 6 TTs total.
So I've probably seen 30 different ones in the last two years on the roads, and those numbers are fairly accurate (assuming the rear badges are correct). But I've seen 2 or 3 TTSs, which seems too high considering maybe only 5 or 6 TTs total.
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#8
The 2006 TTS wasn't quite as limited production as we've be led to believe. The commonly referred to figure is "600", but they actually sold over twice that number. In fact, Porsche USA sold more TTS's than TT's for the 2006 model year. But if you consider all four years of 955 TT production (not including the TTS), then you're over 6 times more likely to see a TT than a TTS (assuming the same relative proportion of each are still roaming the roads). And for all production years of the 955, you're about 5 times more likely to see a non-turbo version Cayenne that a turbo model.
#9
They buy for status and the Porsche crest carries a higher value due to it being less common than those other options you listed. It's not about the best value/ride for the money in those cases, its about being able to tell their peers (even if it's not verbalized) that they drive a Porsche.
I don't begrudge them though as we all have are foibles that make no sense to other people
As far as more 8s vs 6s, I believe it mostly a question of availability. If the dealers order more spec 8s, that's what will sell more. If they spec more 6s, that's what will sell more.
It's also worth considering that during the 955 run and part of the 957 the economy was pretty good and luxury vehicles sold well. For the later 957 years and beginning of the 958 high end sales haven't been quite as good. This could lead dealers to stock cheaper models now versus then as they may be easier to move and they have less of an upfront outlay.
But I'm just talking out of my a$$ since I have no direct knowledge and can only comment based on my observations in an area (DC) that doesn't really mesh with the rest of the country.
#10
My wife is an excellent example. I've offered to give her my 100k mile CTT if she would sell her 205k mile Audi S6. She would MUCH rather be an "Audi driver" than a "Porsche driver"
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While trying to find out how many 2005 E81 CTT's were made I came across some data on how many Cayennes were sold in the USA (can't remember exactly where I found this- but I know it's gotta be fact because the internet was involved). However, feel free to call BS as I am very suspicious of any data I gather, since I am often wrong... just ask my wife.
And granted, I was only looking for E81s and CTT-S data, so the base model and S data is non existent after 2005. Sorry.
2005 - 13,607 total Cayennes (5,402 base, 5,830 S, 2,375 Turbo, no idea how many CTT with E81 option)
2006 - 10,569 sold, with 483 CTT and 958 CTTS
2007 - 12,547 sold, with 1,703 CTT and 384 CTTS (here's where I doubt myself as there was no 2007 models... perhaps deep discounts on remaining stock?)
2008 - 11,216 sold with 678 CTT and 222 CTTS
2009 - 7,735 sold with 142 CTT and 309 CTTS
That's probably where I saw something shiny and stopped researching...
Jim
And granted, I was only looking for E81s and CTT-S data, so the base model and S data is non existent after 2005. Sorry.
2005 - 13,607 total Cayennes (5,402 base, 5,830 S, 2,375 Turbo, no idea how many CTT with E81 option)
2006 - 10,569 sold, with 483 CTT and 958 CTTS
2007 - 12,547 sold, with 1,703 CTT and 384 CTTS (here's where I doubt myself as there was no 2007 models... perhaps deep discounts on remaining stock?)
2008 - 11,216 sold with 678 CTT and 222 CTTS
2009 - 7,735 sold with 142 CTT and 309 CTTS
That's probably where I saw something shiny and stopped researching...
Jim
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