Question About Diff-Lock Functionality
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The X5 has no low range, and has a clutch system that directs power front to rear. Has a little actuator motor that shifts power fr/rear when the computer says so, with a ****ty PLASTIC gear to run it, (notorious failure point of all BMW AWD systems). Open diffs front and rear. No one in their right mind would take an X5 off-road. 315mm 35 series tires won't help either.
My Jeep Grand Cherokee, (lifted 6") has had the viscous couple AWD transfer case (249) replaced with one the locks up in 4WD (242). Now has a 2WD option. I have open diffs in that too, but it has climbed dirt trails you could not even begin to walk up. 33" mud tires help that process, (barely streetable). I do have a lunchbox locker that will soon go in the rear axle.
My 2004 4Runner has a 2WD High, 4WD High 4WD Low transfer case. Plus descent control. You can lock the center diff and turn off the stability/traction control in 4WD high. lt's all electronic, so you can switch anything except selecting low range on the fly. The traction control does work pretty well off-road.
All these off road bells and whistles do little for you on the road, but a locking center diff is nice in deep snow. But once it gets to over 6" deep, you might need low range anyway.
So how fast can a Cayenne S go in Low range?????
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but can someone translate what a locking differential means, in English? I'm not an off-roader, but I have used the rocker switch in some ugly snow on the way to Tahoe once. I just know the more I pushed it forward, the better the traction got. But I have no idea what any of this actually translates to, in mechanical terms (I know what a differential is, but I thought I only had front/rear)... need a quick tutorial. Thanks.
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Don't know how fast the Cayenne will go in low; but a Turbo is probably the fastest 0-10 on wheels!!.
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but can someone translate what a locking differential means, in English? I'm not an off-roader, but I have used the rocker switch in some ugly snow on the way to Tahoe once. I just know the more I pushed it forward, the better the traction got. But I have no idea what any of this actually translates to, in mechanical terms (I know what a differential is, but I thought I only had front/rear)... need a quick tutorial. Thanks.
Under normal condition, the front and rear drive shafts are allowed to get different amounts of power. Some cars allow the front/rear bias to be adjusted with a dial, (a JDM Skyline RE34 for example). Others send deliberately more to the front or rear to determine the handling balance of the car. For example, a Nissan Murano sends most power to the front, and only sends power to the rear if it detects slippage at the front, (which is why they drive like crap). A Porsche Carrera 4 will do exactly the opposite; it sends more power to the rear until it detects slippage at the rear, then sends more to the front. These cars use computer controlled actuators that shift power based on the speed sensors, yaw indicators and a whole boatload of computer parameters to determine the right mix front to rear. Most of these cars shift power with clutches or viscous couplings in the transfer case, but there are some gear and chain driven cases as well. But when the transfer case ("center diff") is locked, the front and rear drive shafts will be forced to run at the same pace.
These computer controlled power shifting systems just tend to get confused when traction is really limited all around, so that's why the Porsche Cayenne and many other 4WD vehicles give the option of locking the center diff in the transfer case.
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And what is low range?
The locking "center diff" in the Cayenne is really within the transfer case. Probably not a really accurate term, as one usually refers to a differential as within an axle; but a transfer case can also allow for a difference in drive shaft output front vs. rear. But it's one of those automotive terms that's sort of stuck.
Under normal condition, the front and rear drive shafts are allowed to get different amounts of power. Some cars allow the front/rear bias to be adjusted with a dial, (a JDM Skyline RE34 for example). Others send deliberately more to the front or rear to determine the handling balance of the car. For example, a Nissan Murano sends most power to the front, and only sends power to the rear if it detects slippage at the front, (which is why they drive like crap). A Porsche Carrera 4 will do exactly the opposite; it sends more power to the rear until it detects slippage at the rear, then sends more to the front. These cars use computer controlled actuators that shift power based on the speed sensors, yaw indicators and a whole boatload of computer parameters to determine the right mix front to rear. Most of these cars shift power with clutches or viscous couplings in the transfer case, but there are some gear and chain driven cases as well. But when the transfer case ("center diff") is locked, the front and rear drive shafts will be forced to run at the same pace.
These computer controlled power shifting systems just tend to get confused when traction is really limited all around, so that's why the Porsche Cayenne and many other 4WD vehicles give the option of locking the center diff in the transfer case.
Under normal condition, the front and rear drive shafts are allowed to get different amounts of power. Some cars allow the front/rear bias to be adjusted with a dial, (a JDM Skyline RE34 for example). Others send deliberately more to the front or rear to determine the handling balance of the car. For example, a Nissan Murano sends most power to the front, and only sends power to the rear if it detects slippage at the front, (which is why they drive like crap). A Porsche Carrera 4 will do exactly the opposite; it sends more power to the rear until it detects slippage at the rear, then sends more to the front. These cars use computer controlled actuators that shift power based on the speed sensors, yaw indicators and a whole boatload of computer parameters to determine the right mix front to rear. Most of these cars shift power with clutches or viscous couplings in the transfer case, but there are some gear and chain driven cases as well. But when the transfer case ("center diff") is locked, the front and rear drive shafts will be forced to run at the same pace.
These computer controlled power shifting systems just tend to get confused when traction is really limited all around, so that's why the Porsche Cayenne and many other 4WD vehicles give the option of locking the center diff in the transfer case.
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but can someone translate what a locking differential means, in English? I'm not an off-roader, but I have used the rocker switch in some ugly snow on the way to Tahoe once. I just know the more I pushed it forward, the better the traction got. But I have no idea what any of this actually translates to, in mechanical terms (I know what a differential is, but I thought I only had front/rear)... need a quick tutorial. Thanks.
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Just a selectable lower gear ratio in the transfer case. Again, not something you'd use on the road. One of the most critical needs for low gearing when off-roading is when going down steep grades. Use of the brakes can cause you to lose control. Low gearing keeps you going slow enough to maintain control.
Descent control, (look in a Range Rover, modern Jeep GC, or Toyota 4Runner) is a computerized wizard that allow the ABS system to control the brakes going downhill off-road to keep control...but nothing beats a properly lower gear ratio.
Descent control, (look in a Range Rover, modern Jeep GC, or Toyota 4Runner) is a computerized wizard that allow the ABS system to control the brakes going downhill off-road to keep control...but nothing beats a properly lower gear ratio.
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I just bought a 04 Porsche cayenne s. And my wife move the rocker switch and it got stuck and it will only go 2 m/h. I was told to unplug and plug back the car rocker switch, nothing happened and then went to check the battery and the battery was good. It still don't want to work. This is what it says in the screen. Long. Lock off reduction on
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I just bought a 04 Porsche cayenne s. And my wife move the rocker switch and it got stuck and it will only go 2 m/h. I was told to unplug and plug back the car rocker switch, nothing happened and then went to check the battery and the battery was good. It still don't want to work. This is what it says in the screen. Long. Lock off reduction on