ltc

You are under no obligation to join the proposed class action lawsuit against Porsche re: P!g coolant tubes.

You can exclude yourself or you pursue it at as individual matter.

If you're feeling adventurous, why stop there, go after them for "!" Check Trailer Lights

ltc

http://www.cayenneclassaction.com/

Cayenne owners and the P!g Pen here on RL is sort of like the Ant Farm I never had as a kid.

gnat

Except that they fixed the pipe issue in the P!gs by the next model (or was it fixed late in the 955s?) where the 996's RMS/IMS issues plagued the Boxter as well and continued into the 997 line. Then there is also that a failed IMS gives essentially no warning before turning your block into a useless hunk of metal weighing down your rear end. I'm not discounting the pipe issue, but it's not like you get some pinging (if you are a lucky one) moments before the engine shuts down never to be restarted again.

But yes I agree Porsche has had a bit of history of letting their customers eat some of their engineering gaffs.

endless_corners

True the ims failing is catastrophic. I guess I meant its the kind of thing I tend to do premptively because even the coolant pipes bursting costs more due to it taking out all the other stuff. Obviously it's not nearly as bad as eating a $20k engine. But both of them are cheaper to do on your own terms than after failure.

gnat

Very true. Here's hoping that the wife's will continue it's 13 year run a little longer until we need to replace the clutch (already replaced one clutch early when it had it's second RMS done, I want my money's worth out of this one!).

freakdog

Add me to the list. 58K, 7 months out of CPO warranty. Talked to PCNA over the phone to ask if they would cover and they said maybe but it had to be looked at an authorized dealer. So I flatbedded the car to the dealer in Denver. Looked at it, yeah it's the coolant pipes, $2100 to fix, and no other damage. PCNA comes back and says the car is in service 92 months so we wont cover it. I guess my ownership of 4 vehicles, 2 new and 2 CPO means nothing to them. Don't bother waiting, as it will happen, just a matter of when.

I called PCNA to "appeal" the decision and they took a whole bunch of info from me and then said, we don't cover stuff out of warranty. Thanks for the excellent service, jerks, my next vehicle will be a Tesla.

AdMan21

The bad news about Tesla is that when you got to call them for an out of warranty repair they may no longer be in business.

freakdog

The result would be the same.

AdMan21

Your absolutely right.

philg3

This coolant pipe is an irritating issue, and Porsche should have owned up to it by recalling all affected production, and fixed the problem. Obviously, it's a design / manufacturing defect that was negligent: It's not a good idea to use plastic pipes carrying hot fluid in a vibrating environment for any length of time, and they were hidden from view. Mine never failed on my previous 2004CT, but I did replace them at 87Kmi, as I didn't want to drive a ticking time bomb. Cost me about $2,300 with the T fitting, but I felt much better knowing I wouldn't get stuck in the middle of no where with a puddle of coolant. I'd advise anyone who has not replaced the defective pipes to do so, not only for the peace of mind, but to avoid potential damage to the starter / seals upon failure.

I tired the "Factory Assistance" route through the dealer who ran it up the chain, but I was told there was no failure, so no assistance. I offered to lend my plastic coolant pipe equipped Turbo to the Porsche District Manager, for him to use with his family on a vacation. No interest there.

Some people have received Factory Assistance upon failure, but I'm told, it's based upon how many P cars you have purchased, and mileage at time of failure. With the pending law suit on this issue, they are probably even less cooperative. There's a reasonable chance Porsche will lose this one, so save your receipts.

Even though I was very displeased over this issue, I've purchased two more Cayennes over the past 18 months.

joeyvaz

Finally dropped off the Cayenne to get repaired this morning. Long 2 1/2 week wait for an appointment. I decided to do the starter now as well even though it is starting up fine. I will hopefully get it back in 2 days. All in, I was quoted $2,500 for the pipes, starter and all ancillary parts.

joeyvaz

Got the Cayenne back last night. $2240 to do the cooling pipes and starter (I supplied the starter) with tax included. All went well with the cooling pipe and starter install. BUT, the trans is now leaking fluid. The Indy shop in NYC that I took it to couldn't give me a quote on the job, so I wanted to ask if anyone here has done that job and what it cost.

Also, if you have an Indy in NYC or NJ that you can recommend, I'd appreciate it. The one I went had done coolant pipes before, but has not done the trans seal. I'd like to take it to someone that has already done this type of job.

Thanks,
Joe

gnat

Absolutely sound advice. The 996/986 owners are going through this now with the IMS issue. Depending on timing, however, it's likely that the older P!g owners will be screwed if the result is similar as they are only covering/reimbursing repairs on cars that are no more than 10 years old (which leaves the wife's baby out in the cold).

endless_corners

Why not just take it too a transmission shop? Just buy the fluid, filter and seal and get your transmission service done early.

joeyvaz

Seems like a reasonable thing to do. I'm just wondering what I can expect to pay for the job. Also, can any transmission place do the job? Like AAMCO or will there be any specialist tools needed for codes or anything like that (Not even sure if any codes will come up-just thinking ahead)

Thanks