Q: Long Term Towing with Pepper
12-15-2011, 12:40 PM
#31
Race Director
2006 S with 70k
Limited regular usage and mostly our tow machine
4000lb Boat trailer with no trailer brakes every weekend from May - Sept.
Trailex trailer with surge brakes about a dozen times this year loaded with various weight German cars.
Utility trailer for college move ins, trash disposal and odd sized purchases.
5k engine oil changes
3 sets of brake pads, 2 sets of rotors.
P car guru Jerry Pellegrino at EPE says to leave the tranny fluid alone unless I absolutely insist.(I don't second guess the master)
Pulls like a train and I have to keep reminding myself to slow down.
When towing try to remember to manually select 1st gear or she will start off in 2nd.
I need 3 different draw bars as each trailer has a different tongue height along with 2 different lighting pigtail connectors to keep all the lights correctly wired .
Never had the dreaded "check trailer lights" message others have spoken about, but I only use incandescent bulbs, no LEDs for me.
Best tow machine I could ask for.
Limited regular usage and mostly our tow machine
4000lb Boat trailer with no trailer brakes every weekend from May - Sept.
Trailex trailer with surge brakes about a dozen times this year loaded with various weight German cars.
Utility trailer for college move ins, trash disposal and odd sized purchases.
5k engine oil changes
3 sets of brake pads, 2 sets of rotors.
P car guru Jerry Pellegrino at EPE says to leave the tranny fluid alone unless I absolutely insist.(I don't second guess the master)
Pulls like a train and I have to keep reminding myself to slow down.
When towing try to remember to manually select 1st gear or she will start off in 2nd.
I need 3 different draw bars as each trailer has a different tongue height along with 2 different lighting pigtail connectors to keep all the lights correctly wired .
Never had the dreaded "check trailer lights" message others have spoken about, but I only use incandescent bulbs, no LEDs for me.
Best tow machine I could ask for.
12-16-2011, 06:24 AM
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Have driven probably 3 to 6 thousand miles a year with a an aluminum trailer and 3-4,000 lbs of tools, tires and car in my previous 04 "S" and my current 08 GTS. No mods other than the tow pack and never had an issue. 04 went over 100K under my ownership and never gave any issues other than coils under warranty. Never serviced beyond what was asked by Porsche (which I think included 20K between oil changes). Current GTS recently took me from Texas to Newfoundland in 4 days with no issue whatsoever.
Have tried, driven, travelled in several alternatives whilst towing all the way up to an F350 diesel and (with the exception of the Audi Q7 - which I might buy for the fuel savings the diesel offers) I would not consider anything else for doing the job. The cayenne is a fabulously comfortable ride, has way more performance than you need (even with a trailer on) and, as I have once proven, incredibly safe.
And before everybody jumps on me, please note that I tow a package south of 5000 lbs and I do so intentionally. I want to keep my weight down so I do not need an 18 wheeler to get to the track. Although I have towed a 24ft enclosed behind a Cayenne and it worked fine, it would not be my first choice if your intent is a large enclosed trailer. Hope this helps.
Have tried, driven, travelled in several alternatives whilst towing all the way up to an F350 diesel and (with the exception of the Audi Q7 - which I might buy for the fuel savings the diesel offers) I would not consider anything else for doing the job. The cayenne is a fabulously comfortable ride, has way more performance than you need (even with a trailer on) and, as I have once proven, incredibly safe.
And before everybody jumps on me, please note that I tow a package south of 5000 lbs and I do so intentionally. I want to keep my weight down so I do not need an 18 wheeler to get to the track. Although I have towed a 24ft enclosed behind a Cayenne and it worked fine, it would not be my first choice if your intent is a large enclosed trailer. Hope this helps.
12-16-2011, 11:38 AM
#36
Race Director
TN is quite lenient when it comes to vehicle/trailer requirements (no registration required for private landscape trailers ect) but here are the brake requirements.
BRAKES (TCA 55-9-204) (FMCSR 393.42, 393.43)
- Trailers with a gross weight of 3,000 lbs. or more are required to have brakes on all wheels.
- Trailers with a gross weight of 1,500 to 3,000 lbs. are required to have brakes on one axle.
- Trailers with a gross weight of less than 1,500 lbs. need not be equipped with brakes.
- Trailers with a gross weight of 3,000 lbs. or more are required to have brakes on all wheels.
- Trailers with a gross weight of 1,500 to 3,000 lbs. are required to have brakes on one axle.
- Trailers with a gross weight of less than 1,500 lbs. need not be equipped with brakes.
12-16-2011, 01:29 PM
#37
I tow a 4500lb boat on a tandem axle trailer with 4-wheel disc surge brakes. I've been towing on and off for about 30K miles and have done four 2,000 mile trips with the boat in tow. So far no issues. The CTT is an excellent towing machine. I don't have any issues with the mirrors either, though if you're towing a box trailer you might.
The most extreme of the trips was during 105 degree heat in mid-summer through NY/NJ traffic. No issues. I ran the oil 9K miles on that trip and had it analyzed when I started to feel guilty with all that high temperature and heavy load driving. The analysis showed good results, so 10K oil changes don't seem to be a problem under those conditions.
Power, brakes, and wiring have all been great. Averaged 11.5-12.5 MPG. Air-suspension keeps things nice and level too. Frankly aside from a diesel Cayenne (or an F-350 diesel) I can't think of anything that would tow better. It absolutely tows better than the F-150's and 1500's of the world.
The most extreme of the trips was during 105 degree heat in mid-summer through NY/NJ traffic. No issues. I ran the oil 9K miles on that trip and had it analyzed when I started to feel guilty with all that high temperature and heavy load driving. The analysis showed good results, so 10K oil changes don't seem to be a problem under those conditions.
Power, brakes, and wiring have all been great. Averaged 11.5-12.5 MPG. Air-suspension keeps things nice and level too. Frankly aside from a diesel Cayenne (or an F-350 diesel) I can't think of anything that would tow better. It absolutely tows better than the F-150's and 1500's of the world.
12-16-2011, 02:17 PM
#38
Race Director
I tow a 4500lb boat on a tandem axle trailer with 4-wheel disc surge brakes. I've been towing on and off for about 30K miles and have done four 2,000 mile trips with the boat in tow. So far no issues. The CTT is an excellent towing machine. I don't have any issues with the mirrors either, though if you're towing a box trailer you might.
The most extreme of the trips was during 105 degree heat in mid-summer through NY/NJ traffic. No issues. I ran the oil 9K miles on that trip and had it analyzed when I started to feel guilty with all that high temperature and heavy load driving. The analysis showed good results, so 10K oil changes don't seem to be a problem under those conditions.
Power, brakes, and wiring have all been great. Averaged 11.5-12.5 MPG. Air-suspension keeps things nice and level too. Frankly aside from a diesel Cayenne (or an F-350 diesel) I can't think of anything that would tow better. It absolutely tows better than the F-150's and 1500's of the world.
The most extreme of the trips was during 105 degree heat in mid-summer through NY/NJ traffic. No issues. I ran the oil 9K miles on that trip and had it analyzed when I started to feel guilty with all that high temperature and heavy load driving. The analysis showed good results, so 10K oil changes don't seem to be a problem under those conditions.
Power, brakes, and wiring have all been great. Averaged 11.5-12.5 MPG. Air-suspension keeps things nice and level too. Frankly aside from a diesel Cayenne (or an F-350 diesel) I can't think of anything that would tow better. It absolutely tows better than the F-150's and 1500's of the world.
12-16-2011, 03:11 PM
#39
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http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/trailer-brakes/
Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs. shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.
Frightening... almost every other state in the US is 3000lb or under regarding brake requirements.
http://www.towshop.com/trailer_suppl...aking_laws.htm
12-16-2011, 04:36 PM
#40
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That site needs to update it's info. They have TN w/ 3,000 lb when it's 1,500 lb.
What I posted above came directly from the TN MV web site this AM.
That is NOT to say the Mass info is incorrect.
What I posted above came directly from the TN MV web site this AM.
That is NOT to say the Mass info is incorrect.
