New here...question about owning a Cayenne.
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Hi, I may or may not be purchasing a Cayenne in the near future as a daily driver. I own a 2005 Mercedes E55 AMG and quite frankly I modded it enough that the roads down here aren't kind to it ( 500+whp, lowered on 19" wheels ) and may be moving on to other things.
I could care less about power so a V6 is likely a good option but I don't mind a V8...except, is the V6 more reliable ( coolant pipe issue comes to mind )?
I am my own mechanic so the cost of labor isn't a problem for me, the cost of parts however is. How would this SUV compare with my E55 ( which has been pretty reliable to be honest )?
Anything to look out for in a V6? Or are they more problematic than a V8?
My other options are a 1st gen BMW X5 and a 1st gen Infiniti FX35.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
I could care less about power so a V6 is likely a good option but I don't mind a V8...except, is the V6 more reliable ( coolant pipe issue comes to mind )?
I am my own mechanic so the cost of labor isn't a problem for me, the cost of parts however is. How would this SUV compare with my E55 ( which has been pretty reliable to be honest )?
Anything to look out for in a V6? Or are they more problematic than a V8?
My other options are a 1st gen BMW X5 and a 1st gen Infiniti FX35.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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The early V6's are not as nice as the later ones -- the later engine had enough power. The V8 is still the best option IMO. The V8 is a very nice power plant --must get the coolant pip upgrade.
I would bet the FX35 would be the most reliable and inexpensive
I would bet the FX35 would be the most reliable and inexpensive
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I really don't care for power, it could have a 4 cylinder for all I care...lol. I just want reliability and a good looking vehicle (inside and out ). For power I may get myself a Vette or something similar.
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The 6 has enough power to get things done on a daily basis. The only time I've found it to be sluggish is when I have a lot of stuff loaded: like when I had half a ton of building supplies for a firepit; then it seemed a little slow.
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Reliability is not really a hallmark of the 03 adn 04 P!gs. Mid 05 was better.
From a reliability perspective alone, the FX will win out against the P!g, unless you really don't mind performing all the TSBs/upgrades/repairs on an 03-04.
The Cayenne V6 in this MY range is the VW VR6 derivative ... an excellent engine.
Good luck with your search.
From a reliability perspective alone, the FX will win out against the P!g, unless you really don't mind performing all the TSBs/upgrades/repairs on an 03-04.
The Cayenne V6 in this MY range is the VW VR6 derivative ... an excellent engine.
Good luck with your search.
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There isn't enough disk space to list them all ...
But the highlights of P!g ownership
Coolant tubes
Cardan shaft
Coils and Plugs
That's about $5K right there.
Everything else is "relatively minor inconveniences"
But the highlights of P!g ownership
Coolant tubes
Cardan shaft
Coils and Plugs
That's about $5K right there.
Everything else is "relatively minor inconveniences"
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I am a
base 06 original owner. AMA
Nothing particular........cardan shaft is the only relative issue, mine went at 65k. I am at 115k. Just did coils, spark plugs, batteries.........consumables....must run 91plus octane....change oil every 6-12 months....100 bucks.......buy pads/hardware/sensors every 25-35k miles, new rotors every 50-60k miles.. regularly change engine filter/cabin filter every 10k miles or 6 months.
Point and go model.
I pulled my Supra Launch LTS wakeboarding boat with it for 4 years.......no issues in flat areas of Texas or at the boat ramp with a boat full of people and bags still full.
I think all the aisin transmissions may eventually need a solenoid or TCU valve replacement. I drive very conservative so this does not rear its head but I know mine has some rough shifts above 3k rpms when giving it a run up to highway speeds on short on ramps.
My truck will get some all terrain tires and probably forever be my hunting wagon/camping mobile. I spent Thanksgiving on the family hay farm.....even with 22's in a dry pasture it was more than capable milling around(not recommended due to side wall unless you know the pasture
) and even going down a wet texas clay road to my favorite duck hunting hole was easy.
I still recommend the V8 if you like louder cars and ability to chirp the tires............GAS MILEAGE is the same unless on the high way on 17's
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Nothing particular........cardan shaft is the only relative issue, mine went at 65k. I am at 115k. Just did coils, spark plugs, batteries.........consumables....must run 91plus octane....change oil every 6-12 months....100 bucks.......buy pads/hardware/sensors every 25-35k miles, new rotors every 50-60k miles.. regularly change engine filter/cabin filter every 10k miles or 6 months.
Point and go model.
I pulled my Supra Launch LTS wakeboarding boat with it for 4 years.......no issues in flat areas of Texas or at the boat ramp with a boat full of people and bags still full.
I think all the aisin transmissions may eventually need a solenoid or TCU valve replacement. I drive very conservative so this does not rear its head but I know mine has some rough shifts above 3k rpms when giving it a run up to highway speeds on short on ramps.
My truck will get some all terrain tires and probably forever be my hunting wagon/camping mobile. I spent Thanksgiving on the family hay farm.....even with 22's in a dry pasture it was more than capable milling around(not recommended due to side wall unless you know the pasture
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I still recommend the V8 if you like louder cars and ability to chirp the tires............GAS MILEAGE is the same unless on the high way on 17's
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The FX35 has a very reliable proven powerplant, I had a G35 that was the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. They're fugly though, and the interior is not a nice place to be. Cheap plastic feel. I looked at X5's too but they're a dime a dozen, nowhere near as good off road, worse interior, bad seats. Why not include the Toureg in your search?
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Wow...are cayenne's really that bad? I've been reading a lot in this forum and it seems that everyone complains of how many issues they have with their cars.
I don't hate the Touareg's looks, but I don't like it much either. I really like the X5 and right now it's looking better than the Cayenne is due to all the complaining with the cayenne's reliability.
I think the FX35 is beautiful on the outside, but the inside looks like a nissan sentra. What a shame.
I can't think of any other comparable suv since land rovers apparently suck as well.
I don't hate the Touareg's looks, but I don't like it much either. I really like the X5 and right now it's looking better than the Cayenne is due to all the complaining with the cayenne's reliability.
I think the FX35 is beautiful on the outside, but the inside looks like a nissan sentra. What a shame.
I can't think of any other comparable suv since land rovers apparently suck as well.
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Also, remember I'll do all work myself so only the cost of the parts matter.
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I had an 04 Fx35 loved it bought it with 12k miles sold it lastyear w 110k no issues .. It was red w the black leather I did the shifter upgrade and brushed aluminum kit to spiff the Interrior up... Gps was good and I had it pretty modded real easy to work on... I did the Eibachs springs,Magnaflow exhaust ,ECU upgrade coldair intake bumped the timing thing was quick.. I just needed mote room so I went to an ML55 got a great offer to sell it then came over to the Cayenne S .I like it feels as planted as the FX not as nimble IMO bit I'm very happy and when I did the Magnaflow exhaust on the V8 it does sound amazing ... Now I want a TT.
good luck.
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IMO People buy Cayennes for 2 reasons:
1. They don't know any better.
2. They know better, but in spite of it's defects realize that it is one of the best (sporty) driving SUVs on the planet.
As far as your other choices...the Toureg has plenty of issues AND crappy customer service, so cross that one off.
The BMW is a Sporty Action Vehicle, minus the utility.
Every Japanese SUV I've ever driven feels like driving a couch on a cushion of marshmallows.
Drive them all an buy the one you can see yourself in every day for the foreseeable future.
1. They don't know any better.
2. They know better, but in spite of it's defects realize that it is one of the best (sporty) driving SUVs on the planet.
As far as your other choices...the Toureg has plenty of issues AND crappy customer service, so cross that one off.
The BMW is a Sporty Action Vehicle, minus the utility.
Every Japanese SUV I've ever driven feels like driving a couch on a cushion of marshmallows.
Drive them all an buy the one you can see yourself in every day for the foreseeable future.
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Wow...are cayenne's really that bad? I've been reading a lot in this forum and it seems that everyone complains of how many issues they have with their cars.
I don't hate the Touareg's looks, but I don't like it much either. I really like the X5 and right now it's looking better than the Cayenne is due to all the complaining with the cayenne's reliability.
I think the FX35 is beautiful on the outside, but the inside looks like a nissan sentra. What a shame.
I can't think of any other comparable suv since land rovers apparently suck as well.![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
I don't hate the Touareg's looks, but I don't like it much either. I really like the X5 and right now it's looking better than the Cayenne is due to all the complaining with the cayenne's reliability.
I think the FX35 is beautiful on the outside, but the inside looks like a nissan sentra. What a shame.
I can't think of any other comparable suv since land rovers apparently suck as well.
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