600RR

Does anyone here know about this product:
http://www.vertexauto.com/ShowItem/2...20Support.aspx
Does it make sense as PM?

Background: I have a 2004 CS with 81,000 miles. Did the alum coolant pipes as PM, and still am on second set of tires. Otherwise only service at 30 kilo intervals, as well as dealer-paid updates. Car has been solid. But I realie others have been less fortunate, so is this a smart move?

Thanks for any input.

seankrider

Funny timing - I was going to post the exact same question tonight. Seems expensive, but maybe I'll get another 100K out of it...

seankrider

Hey people: PAY ATTENTION TO US!!!

600RR

+1. We need some input here!

Loutorious

I saw a tread before about this product here or another site. I don't think anyone actually installed one to provide useful input.

My thinking is that the saving of using this mount is not worth it. I can buy a reman shaft from the same company for about $400 after core return. Then find a shop to do the job for a few hundred - maybe $300 - $400. It is not a difficult job if you have lift and correct tools, my local AAMCO transmission shop can do it.

This mount cost $550 for self install. Its going to take up a day. There is no data of how long it will last even if you installed it correctly. I really don't think such small saving is worth the trouble. If the part is $150 or so, what its really worth, then is a different story...

600RR

Lou: Thanks for the input. I agree from a $$$ standpoint that it's a push at best. But, I was thinking more in terms of not having the DS problem crop up at an inopportune time (as most failures do). That's why I did the coolant pipes and coils before they became a problem. Peace of mind is expensive sometimes, I guess.

ArneeA

My question is that this solid mount does not allow the shaft to play, putting the stress on the other mounting points, the diff and tranny. Is this acceptable or not?

BG993

Hey Guys,

Not reading this forum as often since I sold my '04 CS. I did do the cardan shaft myself a few months ago, and looked at all the options. (FWIW, mine had failed, and I bought the bearing from Rockauto and R&R'd the drive shaft myself.)

I do know a shop that has done this vs. the vertex reman'd shaft. They liked it because it was easier that dropping the shaft, and for their customer it would basically be that same cost (trading less labor for more parts). The lead tech/mechanic told me you could notice a difference in sound/vibration if you were attuned to it. Not necessarily intrusive, but different.

Bill

'04 CS - Gone (157K Mi)
'95 993 - I do miss that car
'83 944 SP1 Build In Progress

seankrider

This is great feedback. I was wondering precisely what Arnee and BG993 are talking about. I'm looking for a very sturdy fix, but not in a necessarily a shortcut. The question I can't answer is whether that static bracket floats around the driveshaft, or actually makes contact. Doesn't the OEM-style rubber bracket ring provide more cushion? And does the shaft actually rotate against the rubber?

Also - I recall hearing Vertex is good, but the Colorado outfit is heftier? Is that the consensus? Or are they equivalent?

2gofast

I installed this part and can say that it was easy and appears robust. I can also say that I can feel much more vibrations in arm rest since install. For me the vibration was too much and I changed out the part

hahnmgh63

2gofast could you be more specific? Did you install the Vertex part or the one from Colorado Driveshaft? Does anyone know if the newer OEM driveshaft really is improved? It does have a different part #.

seankrider

Yeah - 2gofast - you're talking about the new two-piece mount, not the whole drive shaft, right?

KMCTT

My problem with this mount is if it for whatever reason does not workout you will no longer have a suitable core return for a rebuilt cardan shaft. Cutting the old support off is considered modified. You may find yourself with a $550 pile of aftermarket support junk + a $250 or more cardan shaft core charge you will have to eat along with the $350 give or take for the new shaft.

Just not worth it....

2gofast

I used the 2-piece unit from Vertex. The vibrations into the cabin were too annoying and I ended up replacing the drive shaft with a rebuilt unit.

I did not have any problems with the fact that I had cut the old bearing support in half and removed it. I do not see how that would be considered "modified." That piece is removed and thrown out during the rebuild. It is not like I opened up the cv joint.

v10rick

I would go with a sure thing. An indy shop installed my Vertex remanufactured shaft in 1.50 hours.
No vibration, runs like the OEM shaft before it failed.