2012 build dates?
05-23-2011, 01:34 PM
#31
The blue and black interior is my favorite
If they would offer the sane black trim on beige interior I might have taken the beige
But I am so done with light trunk liner
Blue it is
If they would offer the sane black trim on beige interior I might have taken the beige
But I am so done with light trunk liner
Blue it is
05-23-2011, 02:17 PM
#33
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05-23-2011, 02:19 PM
#34
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05-23-2011, 02:49 PM
#36
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Porsche feels that it's "value added" to have PASM and AS on the Turbo but that's small consolation if it doesn't suit someone, for whatever reason, who wants a TT anyway. They probably should make it optional and drop the base price on the TT. Yeah, like they're going to do that.....
05-24-2011, 06:05 PM
#38
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so your saying you want the AS stiffer Enigma? i know from previous vehicles the stiffness doesnt change too much, but just leaving it in normal should be comparable to shocks/struts?
05-24-2011, 06:08 PM
#39
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dealer is telling me today if vehicle gets exported within 6 months of ownership PCNA can "blacklist" a buyer from buying future porsches?
i have buyer interested but he is a dealer and my dealer says if he were to sell vehicle and was exported, the VIN comes back to my name and they can blacklist me for future purchased based on this?
curious what thoughts people have, the buyer wants to pay.. but im hesitant to close deal.. (they said its like a 10k fine against dealer as well if vehicle is exported)
i have buyer interested but he is a dealer and my dealer says if he were to sell vehicle and was exported, the VIN comes back to my name and they can blacklist me for future purchased based on this?
curious what thoughts people have, the buyer wants to pay.. but im hesitant to close deal.. (they said its like a 10k fine against dealer as well if vehicle is exported)
05-24-2011, 06:25 PM
#40
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it's back and forth but my main concern is the dealer not getting in trouble.. and the dealer has thus suggested two routes:
A: they order the new cayenne now @ discount and give me full MSRP for my vehicle at trade in when the new one arrives
B: they order the new cayenne now @ discount and i sell my cayenne privately when the new one comes in which will put us just around that 6 month export cutoff.
I never realized the export business was as big as it is until putting this car for sale online, everyday i get 10 calls from dealers wanting to buy at asking ($58k) and even some offering more to buy the car as a dealer with plans to export (either states or inferred). I guess it makes sense if Porsche Dealers will not sell them the cars and their is a great profit to be made (V6 sells for 120k when i was in colombia, and i can only guess how much they sell for elsewhere in the world)
my current intentions are to order a 2012 later this week, leave my for sale listing up and do a sale (to a dealer or private) when the 6 month window is approaching... and worst case scenario, trade the car back to the dealer around ~53k (versus private sale around ~58k)
either way the demand for these vehicles is insanely strong, when i test drove the V8/TT the other day, even the local dealer who screws everyone over offered me ~50k as a trade in price.
makes perfect sense however considering the vast improvements in the vehicle and of course the delay to buy them new (have to order).. i could jump to V8/TT but this V6 is honestly a perfect vehicle for my environment... i've maybe only 2-3 times said to myself "wish it had more power" it always seems to wanna get up and go and acts perfectly while driving and not sluggish in the least (like the previous heavier V6)
p.s. as far as the 2012 is concerned i still want White exterior, black trim, black wheels, titanium blue interior... but the other options are still in the air which is why i need to get it figured out.. i want air suspension but at the same time it reverts to standard position at speed and only lowers manually at standstill.... one desire is to have the air suspension for off road/etc.. but at the same time i would like a lower ride height at all times other than off road.... crests in headrest are great, but 14 way seats intrigue me... also i am on the fence about rear sun shades and a towing hitch.
A: they order the new cayenne now @ discount and give me full MSRP for my vehicle at trade in when the new one arrives
B: they order the new cayenne now @ discount and i sell my cayenne privately when the new one comes in which will put us just around that 6 month export cutoff.
I never realized the export business was as big as it is until putting this car for sale online, everyday i get 10 calls from dealers wanting to buy at asking ($58k) and even some offering more to buy the car as a dealer with plans to export (either states or inferred). I guess it makes sense if Porsche Dealers will not sell them the cars and their is a great profit to be made (V6 sells for 120k when i was in colombia, and i can only guess how much they sell for elsewhere in the world)
my current intentions are to order a 2012 later this week, leave my for sale listing up and do a sale (to a dealer or private) when the 6 month window is approaching... and worst case scenario, trade the car back to the dealer around ~53k (versus private sale around ~58k)
either way the demand for these vehicles is insanely strong, when i test drove the V8/TT the other day, even the local dealer who screws everyone over offered me ~50k as a trade in price.
makes perfect sense however considering the vast improvements in the vehicle and of course the delay to buy them new (have to order).. i could jump to V8/TT but this V6 is honestly a perfect vehicle for my environment... i've maybe only 2-3 times said to myself "wish it had more power" it always seems to wanna get up and go and acts perfectly while driving and not sluggish in the least (like the previous heavier V6)
p.s. as far as the 2012 is concerned i still want White exterior, black trim, black wheels, titanium blue interior... but the other options are still in the air which is why i need to get it figured out.. i want air suspension but at the same time it reverts to standard position at speed and only lowers manually at standstill.... one desire is to have the air suspension for off road/etc.. but at the same time i would like a lower ride height at all times other than off road.... crests in headrest are great, but 14 way seats intrigue me... also i am on the fence about rear sun shades and a towing hitch.
05-24-2011, 07:50 PM
#41
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Interesting... If I had an offer for full msrp value on my Cayenne by the time a custom 2012 arrived, I'm pretty certain I would take that deal.
Good luck with your decision!
Good luck with your decision!
05-24-2011, 08:23 PM
#42
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i want air suspension but at the same time it reverts to standard position at speed and only lowers manually at standstill.... one desire is to have the air suspension for off road/etc.. but at the same time i would like a lower ride height at all times other than off road.....
05-25-2011, 12:27 AM
#43
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im doing the deal, because i feel that the v6 will be strong for quite a bit longer.. i would say they really messed up building this vehicle, too light and same power as before makes it a beast... i was driving tonight across the 15 mile causeway here, 90-100 and really at no time did i say "this car needs more power"... some say they need the v8 for towing... jeez, i never heard where 300hp was not enough for towing... i would feel more than comfortable with 3 tons on the back of this vehicle.
Unless you're talking about the loading position, which isn't designed for driving, that's not the case. Low Level 1, which is just a bit shy of 1" lower than standard, is manually selectable and stays at that level as long as it's not unselected with the switch regardless of speed. (Unless you hit and hold 130MPH for more than 40 seconds at which point it drops to Low Level II automatically. LL II is not manually selectable) It stays in LL I even after stopping and restarting the car. After playing around with it a bit after I got my CS, I set the AS at Low Level I and left it there. It hasn't changed from that position since I set it either while driving or parked overnight, but then I haven't had a chance to go over 130 yet!
05-29-2011, 03:38 PM
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Was thinking of ordering a basic V6 like the OP, but the scary thing is the financial details.. Very up in the air. Currently the financing numbers are pretty terrible with Porsche:
36 Month 15K miles – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00240 Base Rate
Looks like the residuals is dropping fast. Of course this is a 2011. So any Porsche experts out there? Could one image that if you order a MY2012 one could expect a Residual around 57% once we take delivery of the latest and greatest model? Of course bumping up 2 pts if you only take 12k miles or 3 pts if you take 10k miles. I think my local Bank of Theft can do better than .00240 too. Thats 5.75%.
36 Month 15K miles – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00240 Base Rate
Looks like the residuals is dropping fast. Of course this is a 2011. So any Porsche experts out there? Could one image that if you order a MY2012 one could expect a Residual around 57% once we take delivery of the latest and greatest model? Of course bumping up 2 pts if you only take 12k miles or 3 pts if you take 10k miles. I think my local Bank of Theft can do better than .00240 too. Thats 5.75%.
05-29-2011, 03:47 PM
#45
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Was thinking of ordering a basic V6 like the OP, but the scary thing is the financial details.. Very up in the air. Currently the financing numbers are pretty terrible with Porsche:
36 Month 15K miles – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00240 Base Rate
Looks like the residuals is dropping fast. Of course this is a 2011. So any Porsche experts out there? Could one image that if you order a MY2012 one could expect a Residual around 57% once we take delivery of the latest and greatest model? Of course bumping up 2 pts if you only take 12k miles or 3 pts if you take 10k miles. I think my local Bank of Theft can do better than .00240 too. Thats 5.75%.
36 Month 15K miles – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00240 Base Rate
Looks like the residuals is dropping fast. Of course this is a 2011. So any Porsche experts out there? Could one image that if you order a MY2012 one could expect a Residual around 57% once we take delivery of the latest and greatest model? Of course bumping up 2 pts if you only take 12k miles or 3 pts if you take 10k miles. I think my local Bank of Theft can do better than .00240 too. Thats 5.75%.