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Old 10-15-2009, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mbrouder
Anyone know the price of the horns from the dealer? I'd like to tackle this as a DIY.
Best price would likely be from Sunset Imports (Jeff Clark).
Fill out an online parts request form and they email you back within 1 day.
Old 10-16-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
Best price would likely be from Sunset Imports (Jeff Clark).
Fill out an online parts request form and they email you back within 1 day.
Right you are. I sent a request this morning, got an answer before noon. $27 each for high and low.
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Yes, my wife is very familiar with Jeff....every month when she looks at the credit card bill
Old 10-16-2009, 06:22 PM
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Never tried mine, no idea if it works. Next time I get the pig out, I'll be sure to blow the horn.
Old 10-17-2009, 01:16 AM
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Cool Pepper Horny no worky!

I just replaced the low tone horn on my newer Pepper. I had to do the same with my last Pepper too. What the Heck!

I liked your response to Larry "us"?
Old 02-23-2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
Yes, my wife is very familiar with Jeff....
So is mine

Replacing both of my horns (isn't that what husbands usually wear, anyway?) tomorrow. Can't be without one with all of these NYC cabbies and rickshaws driving around...
Old 02-23-2010, 08:12 PM
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I'm on my third set of horns now. I had to honk at a car over the weekend and I was quite surprised that it actually worked! There's nothing worse than angrily honking at some idiot and having it sound like a clown car just tooted at him.
Old 02-23-2010, 10:47 PM
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Having had mine replaced twice, makes me wonder if it's working now... not generally something you realize until you really need it.
Old 02-23-2010, 11:45 PM
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Had the high tone horn replaced again (had replaced the low pitched horn after I bought it)! Under CPO Warranty of course.
Old 11-04-2010, 08:13 AM
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Just returned yesterday from the SEMA show where Hella (German mfr of lighting and automotive electrical systems) had a booth with a front clip from a '08+ Cayenne on display.

The clip (less the front bumper skin) had the headlamps and horns shown in their respective locations along with the wiring harnesses and OEM plug connectors. There is very little wire slack to cut the OEM connector in order to crimp on a std wire connector and install aftermarket horns. It's obvious that this was done to prevent swapping the OEM's with generic aftermarket units. Unfortunately, I had my camera however no pics were allowed inside SEMA.

I managed to grab hold of a Hella rep and told him that the horns fill up with water and asked him why the horns fail so early? He told me that this is a mfr-related issue as far as component placement on the vehicle goes and not a quality-related issue. What he did recommend (indirectly) was to swap the horns with their other disc-type model. I've shown pictures of both horns that I downloaded from Hella's website.

There are two typical trumpet-like horns on the Cayenne (low and high tone) that are mounted on the front crossmember just behind the grille. Ideally, one can swap-out the trumpet horns for the disc horns provided that ample wire is available to reach the new horn connector. A future project no doubt...

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Old 11-04-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy E.
There is very little wire slack to cut the OEM connector in order to crimp on a std wire connector and install aftermarket horns. It's obvious that this was done to prevent swapping the OEM's with generic aftermarket units.
Or it was simply a design directive to use only the amount of wire that is necessary, in order to save costs.
The same rationale behind VIN specific wiring harnesses.

Or you're right, it was a conspiracy against customers after all.
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Originally Posted by ltc
Or it was simply a design directive to use only the amount of wire that is necessary, in order to save costs. The same rationale behind VIN specific wiring harnesses.
Lewis, that's what I initially thought. In the past, I've been made privy to design projects where 1" of typical 18 AWG wire on a mass-produced component or ***'y can result in $$$$ of annual savings. However, PAG's use of a specific male molded connector on the harness and a female counterpart on the horn (as opposed to a typical crimped brass-plated wire connector) defeats the purpose of saving money.

The 4" long pigtailed wire loom that stems from the harness is stretched taut onto the crossmember and plugs directly into the horn. Typically, I doubt that the horn can be removed unless the connector is first unplugged. Perhaps it's simply bad engineering?
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Originally Posted by mbrouder
Right you are. I sent a request this morning, got an answer before noon. $27 each for high and low.
Anyone know if the alarm horn is that cheap as well? Mine seems to be dead.
Old 11-04-2010, 09:39 PM
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Will answer my own question.
Alarm horn is 75 bucks. Don't really care about the alarm but I'm **** and like everything to work on my cars so I guess I am ordering one.
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Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky
Anyone know if the alarm horn is that cheap as well? Mine seems to be dead.
Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky
Will answer my own question.
Alarm horn is 75 bucks. Don't really care about the alarm but I'm **** and like everything to work on my cars so I guess I am ordering one.
Marc, did PAG change over to a siren on +08 models? My alarm sounds a siren. Ask me how I know....


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