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Old 10-21-2008, 04:28 PM
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i know winter tires are the best but how is the performance of all season toyos

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We run different brands of all seasons (not Toyos) year round on a Subaru, A4, and a Golf, and they all work fine. I'm sure Toyo's are just as good.

They should be just fine on your Cayenne, unless you want the ultimate in traction and braking performance.
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Will be fine if your on 18's
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You will likely determine that PSM stands for "Please Save Me".
IMHO, you would be better served with proper (snowflake sidewall symbol) winter rated tires.....but then again, it's a Cayenne, who cares if it skids into a tree.
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Canada is a BIG place ... winters in Vancouver are a heck of a lot different than winters in Ottawa.

Here in Ottawa ... I've done the all season thing on my wife's AWD for years and then put on snows last year ... and there is simply no comparison. The AS were "fine" - the snows were "amazing". I didn't even hesitate this fall on my new Highlander - bought a set of Blizzaks from TireRack for the coming snowfest.

Sorry in advance for getting on my soapbox ...

All seasons might be OK but winter tires is what you should have (in this area anyway and I would think for just about everywhere in Canada other than Vancouver and Victoria ...) ... its not just the snow and ice ... its the tread compound. And frankly with an AWD car I think its more important - that AWD system just gets you moving faster - it doesn't brake any better and doesn't improve the lateral grip of your tires.

Province of Quebec just passed a law - all passenger vehicles registered in Quebec must have winter tires (not all seasons ...) from Dec 15 to Mar 15 ...

Of course your mileage (grip?) may vary ...
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Consider Nokian's. They can be run year round and have the "snowflake" on the side wall of the tire. I used them last winter and even though we don't have harsh weather here in the Pacific Northwest, the trips to the slopes were very good. The traction I had with my Dunlops was better but changing and owning two sets of tires got to be a small pain without any great benefit.
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I've used them in N. Idaho, last year we got 160 inches of snow - they did fine. I don't like snow tires, most have a lot of road noise.
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Michelin Diamaris did terrible in Boston's winter, changed it to Pirelli Snow & Ice, great traction so I can avoid hitting a tree, low road noise, slightly rougher ride but with the PASM that part is compensated very well.
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I've been running Nokian WR's for years. Great tire, good in the rain and snow and very little road noise plus they have a looong road life. Do yourself a favor and get a proper set of winter tires, the best thing you can do when you live in Canada.

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Get a good pair of snows or you will find yourself in a ditch!
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Originally Posted by JFScheck
Get a good pair of snows or you will find yourself in a ditch!
So what's the downside here?
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Originally Posted by ltc
So what's the downside here?
You run a damn good chance of ruining a good set of tires
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I have run 22" tires through 3 consecutive Wisconsin winters without incident. I have Toyo Proxes, which are M & S rated tires, but they are clearly not dedicated winter tires. I suppose snow tires would inspire even more confidence, but I have not had much to worry about with my all-season setup.
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I would go with Larry's advice. Seek out the snowflake sidewall !!
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Originally Posted by pdxjim
I would go with Larry's advice. Seek out the snowflake sidewall !!
Larry's just an ***, remember?

Anyways, let's check with another party who might know a thing or two about Porsches and Tires......PAG.

So let's see, latest approved homologated Porsche tire list...check, look for Pig...check, look for M&S, hmmn...........give me a minute, I'm sure it's here.


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