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03-11-2008, 10:47 AM
#3
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By anyone else's standards: no.
BTW, Turbo engines are 'expected' to have higher oil consumption than a NA engine.
Have you considered oil analysis on a regular basis?
03-11-2008, 01:10 PM
#4
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Suncoast Autosports in Sarasota told me 1qt/1500mi is to be expected in a turbo. Mine is an 06, now with 35K mi. Bought a bunch of 5qt jugs of Mobile 1, 15-50 at walmart for 19.94@. I check daily with tire pressure and keep it topped off. My consumption is about what they state. Funny thing...my 93 928 consumes too, and once again, I find that it is to be expected with that engine. Gotta buy stock in Mobile. Anyone running Royal Purple?
03-11-2008, 03:23 PM
#5
um...
you bought the wrong oil. the ONLY oils approved for the cayenne, CS and Turbo are 0w or 5w-40. not only is the oil you bought the wrong weight, it is not even close to the same formulation as the 0w-40.
of course MOBILE has no approved oils on the list. if you are talking about Mobil, the lubricant subsidiary of Exxon-Mobil, you still got the wrong oil.
RP, besides being garbage, is not on the list either.
of course MOBILE has no approved oils on the list. if you are talking about Mobil, the lubricant subsidiary of Exxon-Mobil, you still got the wrong oil.
RP, besides being garbage, is not on the list either.
03-11-2008, 03:32 PM
#6
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Suncoast Autosports in Sarasota told me 1qt/1500mi is to be expected in a turbo. Mine is an 06, now with 35K mi. Bought a bunch of 5qt jugs of Mobile 1, 15-50 at walmart for 19.94@. I check daily with tire pressure and keep it topped off. My consumption is about what they state. Funny thing...my 93 928 consumes too, and once again, I find that it is to be expected with that engine. Gotta buy stock in Mobile. Anyone running Royal Purple?
03-11-2008, 03:46 PM
#7
well
the 15w-50 is
cSt @ 40º C 131.2
where as the 0w-40 is
cSt @ 40º C 78.3
making the 15w almost twice as thick as the 0w at room temp. i suppose if you preheat your engine before starting, its ok, otherwise it is way too thick. also, the 15w-50 now meets API SM grade, which means they cut some of the ZDDP out, which used to be it's claim to fame.
at temp, it is 18 vs 14 cSt, so you are talking about 25% thicker. if you really need a thicker oil, i would use one of the 5w-50 (Mobil makes one), but they aren't on the list either (although the M1 was on the 06 list).
cSt @ 40º C 131.2
where as the 0w-40 is
cSt @ 40º C 78.3
making the 15w almost twice as thick as the 0w at room temp. i suppose if you preheat your engine before starting, its ok, otherwise it is way too thick. also, the 15w-50 now meets API SM grade, which means they cut some of the ZDDP out, which used to be it's claim to fame.
at temp, it is 18 vs 14 cSt, so you are talking about 25% thicker. if you really need a thicker oil, i would use one of the 5w-50 (Mobil makes one), but they aren't on the list either (although the M1 was on the 06 list).
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03-11-2008, 05:43 PM
#8
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OOPS! Thanks for the heads up. The Mobil 15-50 will go back and the Mobil 0-40 will be picked up. The 0-40 was is always used in the change every 5k mi, I was topping off with the 15-50. That'll end thanks to you guys.
03-11-2008, 07:02 PM
#9
Race Director
the 15w-50 is
cSt @ 40º C 131.2
where as the 0w-40 is
cSt @ 40º C 78.3
making the 15w almost twice as thick as the 0w at room temp. i suppose if you preheat your engine before starting, its ok, otherwise it is way too thick. also, the 15w-50 now meets API SM grade, which means they cut some of the ZDDP out, which used to be it's claim to fame.
at temp, it is 18 vs 14 cSt, so you are talking about 25% thicker. if you really need a thicker oil, i would use one of the 5w-50 (Mobil makes one), but they aren't on the list either (although the M1 was on the 06 list).
cSt @ 40º C 131.2
where as the 0w-40 is
cSt @ 40º C 78.3
making the 15w almost twice as thick as the 0w at room temp. i suppose if you preheat your engine before starting, its ok, otherwise it is way too thick. also, the 15w-50 now meets API SM grade, which means they cut some of the ZDDP out, which used to be it's claim to fame.
at temp, it is 18 vs 14 cSt, so you are talking about 25% thicker. if you really need a thicker oil, i would use one of the 5w-50 (Mobil makes one), but they aren't on the list either (although the M1 was on the 06 list).
The Overview of Approved Engine Oils dated Dec. 21, 2007 has all 3 Mobil1 oils, the 0w40, 5w40 and 5w50 (in addition to others) as approved WW (world wide). The TSB is on Renntech.org as 20/07 number 1701. ??
03-12-2008, 08:00 PM
#10
I just had a oil change at my dealer. I checked the dip & it's over the fill mark ! This after a CPO inspection and full PM....$ 200.00 oil change. Any chance this was over-filled b/c of oil consuption??
I know not likely...I do own a 2006 CTTS and understand the turbo burns more oil.
Any info would be greatly appreciated...also in non mechanical terms what type of Mobil oil should i purchase ?
Tnx, Coach 11
I know not likely...I do own a 2006 CTTS and understand the turbo burns more oil.
Any info would be greatly appreciated...also in non mechanical terms what type of Mobil oil should i purchase ?
Tnx, Coach 11
03-12-2008, 09:11 PM
#11
well...
how much over the fill mark? it only takes a little to get up into the crank path, and then you get foaming and fairly quick failure.
if you are in the US, the most common mobil oil for the cayenne is mobil 0w-40 (used to be marked "European blend", but isn't now). this oil can be found at some walmarts, all autozones, advanced autoparts, some NAPAs, and most other major auto parts chains.
if you are in the US, the most common mobil oil for the cayenne is mobil 0w-40 (used to be marked "European blend", but isn't now). this oil can be found at some walmarts, all autozones, advanced autoparts, some NAPAs, and most other major auto parts chains.
03-12-2008, 09:15 PM
#12
03-12-2008, 09:58 PM
#13
I should clarify i checked it cold. I will start CTTS this weekend....let it warm-up and report. If it still high i will take back to the dealer to drain and fill to appropiate level.
Thanks for the info !
Thanks for the info !
03-12-2008, 10:50 PM
#14
oh gosh
i forgot this was a german car!
of course, the dry sump system will prevent the foaming failure because of it's superior design. any additional oil will either go into the overflow tank or just overboard .
of course, the dry sump system will prevent the foaming failure because of it's superior design. any additional oil will either go into the overflow tank or just overboard .
03-13-2008, 11:48 AM
#15
Race Director
On the Cayenne S it has 2 oil drain plugs, one in the forward drain pan in a position you would expect a drain plug and one back closer to the transmission that is up a little higher. If you remove that rearmost drain plug you will get about .25 qt. of oil out of the system. I drained that once, put the plug back in, after I drove it the next time I checked the oil level (hot) it was still overfull, drained it a second time and this time it wound up just under the full mark.
The nice thing about doing it this way is it's much easier to remove the rear plastic tray (about 4 10mm bolts only) and you can leave that tray off while you drive it just in case you have to drain it again. Mine is still off but I will put it back on this w/e.
Hopefully before I put the tray back on I'll remember to take a photo or 2 to show what I mean.