Cayenne Turbo Oil Consumption
#1
Cayenne Turbo Oil Consumption
I have a 2005 Cayenne Turbo and at about every 2000 miles the check engine light has come on and the vehicle has need 2 quarts of oil. I have now driven it about 6440 miles and they just put the sixth quart of oil in. Porsche says this is normal break-in. I hate to say it but I didn't expect to be carrying quarts of oil with me and stopping along the side of the highway after the check-engine light come on and pouring quarts of oil in.
Has anyone else had this problem or is this Unique?
Frank
Has anyone else had this problem or is this Unique?
Frank
#2
It seems that this is not to far from normal with the TT although some are MUCH worse than others. I would not expect a great improvement, nor would I expect a sympathetic ear from Porsche. Others will most likely respond with their own experiences.
#4
Oil consumption went way down on my 04CT. I probably added 3 quarts over the first 10Kmi. I changed the oil @ that time, and now have about 16Kmi on the vehicle. I checked it a couple of weeks ago, and over the last 1,700 mi the oil went just below the 'X' in 'MAX' on the stick; looks like about 1/10 of a quart. Very acceptable.
#7
Oil Consumption
My 04 CT has been steadily dropping. 3qt the first 5K miles, 2qts the second 5K. I'm at about 14,000 and have just downed another quart. First one since 10K.
The break-in procedure seems to be more important with this engine (and most high performance turbos) than with a more traditional engine. I've been vary careful to follow break-in guidelines.
Search the forum for Oil Consumption, this is a common thread.
Alex
The break-in procedure seems to be more important with this engine (and most high performance turbos) than with a more traditional engine. I've been vary careful to follow break-in guidelines.
Search the forum for Oil Consumption, this is a common thread.
Alex
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#8
The word is, turbos are not supposed to be driven hard and put away wet. You're supposed to allow turbos to cool down before shutting down, according to knowledgable owners on the 996TT board.
#9
Originally Posted by Torags
The word is, turbos are not supposed to be driven hard and put away wet. You're supposed to allow turbos to cool down before shutting down, according to knowledgable owners on the 996TT board.
I think Wingless or some other member had a good explanation of why 911 turbos had problems with hot stops and how the CT is different.
Alex
#10
I agree with Torags in one respect. Don't shut down the engine immediately after running at high revs. Especially don't gun the engine and then shut it off. If the turbo is still spinning it will do so without oil pressure after shutdown. This is Turbo-101.
I am interested in knowing whether or is not there is a heat issue with the Cayenne turbos similar to the 996. Comments from a knowledgable source would be much appreciated.
I am interested in knowing whether or is not there is a heat issue with the Cayenne turbos similar to the 996. Comments from a knowledgable source would be much appreciated.
#11
This is from Clark's Garage and I assume the turbo cooling technology has been improved for our trucks.
"Unlike the 924 Turbo, the turbocharger on the 944 Turbo was moved to the opposite side of the engine from the exhaust. This helped reduce the turbocharger inlet temperatures by approximately 160 °F. Additionally, the turbocharger has a water-cooled bearing housing. During normal operation, the cooling water is supplied from the engine cooling system via a tap on the low temperature side of the radiator. The cooling water returns to the water pump suction via a small thermostat or to the expansion tank if the thermostat is closed. During shutdown, coolant is supplied from the radiator and expansion tank and circulated through the bearing housing and back to the expansion tank. The water in the expansion tank is cooled by being siphoned through the makeup line to the radiator. Coolant circulation through the turbocharger bearing housing is supported by an electric pump. The combination of lower inlet temperatures and water-cooling to the bearing housing dramatically increased the turbocharger life expectancy over the 924 Turbo and 911 Turbo."
"Unlike the 924 Turbo, the turbocharger on the 944 Turbo was moved to the opposite side of the engine from the exhaust. This helped reduce the turbocharger inlet temperatures by approximately 160 °F. Additionally, the turbocharger has a water-cooled bearing housing. During normal operation, the cooling water is supplied from the engine cooling system via a tap on the low temperature side of the radiator. The cooling water returns to the water pump suction via a small thermostat or to the expansion tank if the thermostat is closed. During shutdown, coolant is supplied from the radiator and expansion tank and circulated through the bearing housing and back to the expansion tank. The water in the expansion tank is cooled by being siphoned through the makeup line to the radiator. Coolant circulation through the turbocharger bearing housing is supported by an electric pump. The combination of lower inlet temperatures and water-cooling to the bearing housing dramatically increased the turbocharger life expectancy over the 924 Turbo and 911 Turbo."
#12
Originally Posted by bancu
On based on coolant temperature and fuel consumption...off in 15 seconds to 13 minutes.
"To cool the engine compartment the fans are switch on with the ignition OFF, depending on coolant temperature and the last driving cycle (map on fuel consumption). The switch-on threshold is between 90c (195f) and 93c (200f) and running time is between 15 seconds and a maximum of 13 minutes. Once fan run-on is concluded, the fans will not start again with "Engine OFF."
In the Cayenne Turbo, the electric coolant run-on pump, which provides cooling for the turbocharger (to prevent coking) is activated through this function.
"To cool the engine compartment the fans are switch on with the ignition OFF, depending on coolant temperature and the last driving cycle (map on fuel consumption). The switch-on threshold is between 90c (195f) and 93c (200f) and running time is between 15 seconds and a maximum of 13 minutes. Once fan run-on is concluded, the fans will not start again with "Engine OFF."
In the Cayenne Turbo, the electric coolant run-on pump, which provides cooling for the turbocharger (to prevent coking) is activated through this function.
Alex
#13
Additionally, the V8 doesn't suffer from the oil residual in the Boxer cylinders (that is blown out at each start - hence more oil consump.) That said the turbo needs lube for additional bearing surfaces, so it will use more oil than non turbos.