Hi all,
In need of some last minute support. I found a beautiful 09 Cayenne TT in Nordic Gold. The CarFax is clean (no accidents, no body work), decent service intervals and the car has spent 90% of its life in British Columbia where it was sold new. Was imported into the states with a clear title a year ago. Mileage is a touch over 106K. I'm ready to pull the trigger at $24K plus shipping fees (Washington State to PA). Build sheet is incredible with PCCB, Sport Seats, PDCC with an original sticker of $157,000. Selling dealer has added new tires, oil and brake service and clean ECU report. Everything I've read is that these cars are unreal with 500HP and PDCC but any last concerns before I move forward? KBB value is listed 22-25K so $24 seems reasonable given the options on the car. Only cosmetic issues are roadrash by rear tires.


Listing:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...329217453/NONE

Video:



Some surface rust on suspension components but no apparent damage.

 

Beautiful car, I would have them send a video of the engine running.

Maybe see if you can get a local rennlister to do a rent-fax.

 

Thanks! He did send through a startup and idle video as well that I have uploaded to YouTube. Dealer has been very straightforward and responsive I should note.

 

@brett968 , @Petza914 thoughts on the 2nd video? These engines are noisy to begin with, let's hear what others have to say.

 

engine sounds fine to me, but I would try to get a PPI done at a third party. With such a fully loaded vehicle (and expensive to repair options at that), I'd want to make sure that everything is in working order.

Also, I'd make sure you have a slush fund for repairs...maybe start with $5k and if you don't use it, you're in good shape.

 

Thank you! Agreed on having some flexible spending. I planned on doing a dealer service anyways within the next few months. I would be using the car as my DD to work (4 miles round trip) so annual mileage on the car would be very low.

 

Here's the original option list...

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP1AC29P29LA82766

 

Third party, PPI, like someone else already mentioned.

 

What a cool build with great options. PCCBs are super rare on a 957. This is only the 3rd Cayenne I've ever seen with them. I had to retrofit them to mine to find a low-mileage, Southern climate car to buy with the other colors and options I wanted. That being said, those rotors need to be checked very carefully on both sides for any chipped areas as a new replacement is about $10,000 (yes, seriously). They're fantastic and unlike most brakes, actually get even more effective when hot.

The engine videos sound OK to me, but there is a fair amount of background humm in them, either from wind or something else. That fast ticking is the DFI injectors and isn't a convern. What you don't want to hear is an underlying knocking sound. I thought I may have heard a trace of this in that 2nd video at 0:06 but couldn't really make out anything concrete. 2008s do have the highest incidence of bore scoring and it's more likely to occur in cold climate cars so with this one being from BC, that's kind of 2 strikes against it, but again, I didn't hear anything really bad.

With the rare color and options and nothing really prevalent in the videos, I might take a chance on it. Actually, if it was me, I'd give them a $500 non-refundable deposit to hold it and get in the car with the tools to go check it out in person, listen to the engine with a mechanics stethoscope, pressure test the cooling system, smoke test the intake, and get a good look at the rotors...

 

wow on the option list, only problem I see is it's not Black, lol...

If you move forward on the PPI, make sure to get it bore scoped especially since it's a 2008. And the brake conditions.

edit: everything Pete said, our post crossed paths.

 

Haha I know.. all my cars are Black so this Nordic Gold would be a big adjustment for me. But half of me things it's different and interesting.

Going to call the dealer this morning to arrange the third-party inspection. Good call on the bore scoring.. I thought that was only for non-turbo 957s but would be good to get checked. I did put down a deposit to hold the car but can always cancel. Wish I could check the car out in person but I'm on the opposite end of the country in PA and with two little ones, travel isn't in the cards these days.

 

Like Pete mentions, not getting my eyes or trained eyes on those rotors would make me nervous. A camera scope for the bores should suffice for a scoring check. Nothing from the video pops to me. I hope all goes well for you. A Nordic Gold with ceramics is dope!

 

Engine sounds fine to me. Clickety clackety and PDCC whine but not “thumps”

 

Thanks everyone for your feedback! This is all happening pretty quickly as I know others are interested in the car locally. Spoke with the dealer this morning. I proposed a third party PPI and he didn't object but said his team will look again at the brakes and do a borescope for the cylinders as they had just serviced it. I'll post updates as I receive them today.

 

My opinion on the engine sound is precisely in line with Petza914. I also thought I heard someone funny for just a second but it's hard to say. What I heard most of the time sounded absolutely fine.

Bore scoping is a must IMO. It's been said previously that bore scoping is only useful when the scoring issue has progressed. Based on some recent postmortem examinations I did on two engines, this is not the case. (One of these days I'll post a video with my findings.) There should be no vertical marks in the cylinders at 106k miles. Pay particular attention to the sides of the cylinder walls closest to the outside of the engine. Note that I am not recommending bore scoping here because I necessarily think something is wrong with the car, but because I have a recent appreciation as to how useful a properly executed bore scoping can be in identifying scoring issues, even at an early stage. Also, the mileage is in the range of when scoring is most likely to popup.