Talk me out of buying a 957 (2007) Turbo as a DD
11-21-2019 | 12:48 PM
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Lots of people on here DD their Cayenne Turbos. One with only 40k miles should be good for a while. I assume your wife also has another car which will handle the new child duties much of the time, and if you keep the 996 as a backup, you should be OK for a while.
If you wanted a 958 diesel, you should never have driven a 957 Turbo with PDCC - everyrhing else is now going to feel anemic and sloppy.
The shape of the 957 rear hatch allows it to hold more gear than the 958 and IMO the lines and design cues are more masculine. The teardrop rear lights, the rounded tailgate, and pointer nose of the 958 generation are less SUV and more minivan in appearance to me, though it still drives nothing like a minivan. The 958 interior is a bit nicer, but also having a 996, you'll appreciate the similarities in look and feel to that car, though the 957 generation is really more similar to the 997 interior which is also one of the reasons I like it, also owning 2 997s.
If the price is right, I say go for it.
If you wanted a 958 diesel, you should never have driven a 957 Turbo with PDCC - everyrhing else is now going to feel anemic and sloppy.
The shape of the 957 rear hatch allows it to hold more gear than the 958 and IMO the lines and design cues are more masculine. The teardrop rear lights, the rounded tailgate, and pointer nose of the 958 generation are less SUV and more minivan in appearance to me, though it still drives nothing like a minivan. The 958 interior is a bit nicer, but also having a 996, you'll appreciate the similarities in look and feel to that car, though the 957 generation is really more similar to the 997 interior which is also one of the reasons I like it, also owning 2 997s.
If the price is right, I say go for it.
11-21-2019 | 01:01 PM
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I'll also add that unless you're actually driving through snow or muddy roads regularly, you can save a fortune on tires by going with either of the Aturro models. I first put the AZ850s on my TTS and they have been superb in all the conditions I've used them, which for the most part only include dry and wet, though did some slippery leaves on wet pavement on a fall run up the mountain. I liked them so much, when my pickup needed new tires I purchased the AZ800 directional version for it (they don't make the AZ850 in my 305/50-20 size), and they are also excellent.
I don't know if either of these works in snow since I don't usually drive the Cayenne when it snows as I don't need someone to slide into it and just the 800s on my truck a couple months ago so haven't had our 1 or 2 winter snowfalls in SC to play with them yet. The tread design of the 800s does make a noise in heavy rain as the directional pattern forces the water through the tread. I've not noticed a similar noise on the 850s.
But, when I say you can save a fortune, I'm talking about $650-$700 for a set of four tires that have the necessary load and speed ratings for the Cayenne and I can tell you they handle great and I've speed tested them up to 132 mph.
I don't know if either of these works in snow since I don't usually drive the Cayenne when it snows as I don't need someone to slide into it and just the 800s on my truck a couple months ago so haven't had our 1 or 2 winter snowfalls in SC to play with them yet. The tread design of the 800s does make a noise in heavy rain as the directional pattern forces the water through the tread. I've not noticed a similar noise on the 850s.
But, when I say you can save a fortune, I'm talking about $650-$700 for a set of four tires that have the necessary load and speed ratings for the Cayenne and I can tell you they handle great and I've speed tested them up to 132 mph.
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12-13-2019 | 10:21 PM
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I have been running Cayennes for quite a few years and have no reservations about using them as daily drivers.
My thinking is that the 2008-2010 TT's offer the best value for money in a high end SUV out there! I have now driven all of them from the V6, Diesel, S's, GTS's with and without the manual transmission. The Turbo with PDCC is a truly great vehicle. Mine has 46k on it now and it is basically like new. Zero problems, only normal maintenance and no surprises.
The reason I upgraded my 06 Titanium S to a 2009 TT is not only the stunning performance, but the fact that it has Bluetooth which makes phone use much better in the car. The Bose stereo is quite adequate and the cargo capacity is excellent. It can tow 7,700 lbs without drama. The gas milage stinks with 15.1 being typical for my somewhat spirited driving style. I burn Michelin 295/35 21 Michelin latitudes up in 20,000 miles.
The low miles of the car you are looking at should be an asset. My 09 also sat for four years during the settlement of an estate and the only thing I had to do was replace the tires and fluids (which I would have done anyway.)
Porsche says the coolant is "lifetime" but I changed it...
Trouble areas are:
1. The driveshaft (which can be fixed for less than 10 bucks without the dealers help.)
2. Coil packs. If they go bad they must be fixed because you can ruin your engine if not attended to quickly.
3. Body drains require maintenance or water will get at the wiring under the carpet.
4. Some have reported coolant tube failures, but it is rare.
Get a good PPI and negotiate all of the potential maintenance items (especially brakes) as part of the purchase to get a good deal!
All in all, I think you will love the Turbo for many years!
FWIW, I also have a 2016 Turbo S Cayenne and I mostly use the 09 Turbo because of its wonderful combination or practicality and performance.
Enjoy!
My thinking is that the 2008-2010 TT's offer the best value for money in a high end SUV out there! I have now driven all of them from the V6, Diesel, S's, GTS's with and without the manual transmission. The Turbo with PDCC is a truly great vehicle. Mine has 46k on it now and it is basically like new. Zero problems, only normal maintenance and no surprises.
The reason I upgraded my 06 Titanium S to a 2009 TT is not only the stunning performance, but the fact that it has Bluetooth which makes phone use much better in the car. The Bose stereo is quite adequate and the cargo capacity is excellent. It can tow 7,700 lbs without drama. The gas milage stinks with 15.1 being typical for my somewhat spirited driving style. I burn Michelin 295/35 21 Michelin latitudes up in 20,000 miles.
The low miles of the car you are looking at should be an asset. My 09 also sat for four years during the settlement of an estate and the only thing I had to do was replace the tires and fluids (which I would have done anyway.)
Porsche says the coolant is "lifetime" but I changed it...
Trouble areas are:
1. The driveshaft (which can be fixed for less than 10 bucks without the dealers help.)
2. Coil packs. If they go bad they must be fixed because you can ruin your engine if not attended to quickly.
3. Body drains require maintenance or water will get at the wiring under the carpet.
4. Some have reported coolant tube failures, but it is rare.
Get a good PPI and negotiate all of the potential maintenance items (especially brakes) as part of the purchase to get a good deal!
All in all, I think you will love the Turbo for many years!
FWIW, I also have a 2016 Turbo S Cayenne and I mostly use the 09 Turbo because of its wonderful combination or practicality and performance.
Enjoy!