Pillow

LOL, maybe he did not like the previous answer!

Seriously Edhamo, what do you want to hear in the answer before you start another thread on the topic?

edhamo

Hey really appreciate your feedback. Dont mean to replicate, I forgot about the other posting on same website (Is there a way to delete the other?). I do have 19" rims and am getting rid of them. I like the 20" look better. So debate is if I go 40 or 45 walls on 20" and as narrow as possible (rims are OEMs for 275 so might be able to get as far as down to 265). Within same context am thinking going as narrow as possible (Blizzaks have less tread), thinking STUDDED: Hakka 9s, Pirelli Ice Zero or Toyos.. any feedback always welcomed!


Many thanks in advance.

wkearney99

It helps to update your profile here with a location, as it helps other members offer location-specific advice.

To me, it's probably a better plan to go for what tire/rim combo provides the best driving results, not just on looks alone. The whole wheel gap, stance thing... seems dumb, but I get the rim style preferences. If they made the platinum Sport Classic II pattern in 20" summer I'd kinda consider it. Instead I'm back/forth between those and the black RS Spyder rims.

I've had good results with 19" Pirelli winter scorpions on my GTS. Doesn't provide the same turning grip when snapping a 90° from an intersection, there's just a wee bit less lateral traction (back end steps out... just a little). Likewise, the rubber compound works best when it's under 50F. Above that and they're a bit soft and handling that depends on sidewall strength gets a bit sloppier, but again, not by much. For "normal" driving you'd really be unaffected. Ask anyone with a normal vehicle and less felonious driving habits to drive it and they would not be able to tell the difference.

The 19" are narrower and have a taller sidewall than the 20" Eagle LS2 that are on there for 'summer'. But the ride is largely indistinguishable during normal driving. In snow, however, the narrower tire profile, rubber compound and better tread pattern do help. Our winter weather is pretty random here, so I've not had a lot of snow depth to offer any commentary on that. But for slush, 1-2" accumulation and general winter conditions, I've been pleased with the Pirellli tires.

Pillow

IMO if you need studs go narrow Winter 18s and Summer 20s. Best of both worlds.

It is proven that the A/Ss are a huge compromise overall. Winter and Summer dedicated are much better in wet over any A/S and relative snow/dry as designed. Winters as a soft rubber are actually great on dry but are eaten alive on treadwear.

deilenberger

Threads have been merged..

wkearney99

Bearing in mind the larger brakes on a Turbo need 19" or larger to clear the calipers, right? What model Cayenne is involved here?

edhamo

many thanks

edhamo

Just a Cayenne S model.. sticking with 20". Going to avoid studs for the noise and from what I read they have less traction on dry cold weather than studless tires. If anyone disagrees its the time to share your experience please.

Debating studless options for : Pirelli Scorpion Winter, Nokian Hakka 9s and or R3 or the (boring) Blizzaks

wkearney99

Again, WHERE is it you'll be driving regularly? Not all winter tires are suitable for all locations. That and not all places allow for studded tires, or only under certain circumstances.

As for boring, well, you're spending for purpose here, not fashion.

edhamo

Hey there..driving in central Ontario, Canada. Here they are legal to use only in northern part. I think I am dismissing them altogether.. focusing on Hakkas.. studless 9s (or 8s) vs R3 (or R2).. trying to understand difference and pros/cons..

Pillow

Function 18 > Form 20 especially for snow traction.

wkearney99

Ok, then consider the search function here, there have been numerous tire threads. It'll take a while to go through them but there's good stuff to learn along the way.

edhamo

I have my friend and have not gathered enough to help me make a decision.. if you dont have any more direct feedback that being said I appreciate you trying...

Bob Rouleau

edhamo - here in Quebec, Cayenne's with 20 and 21 inch wheels break wheels after hitting potholes. 18 inch winters would be a betteer idea and you'll find the car is quieter and rides better than on 20's.

edhamo

Hey Bob, def a risk, not planning on 21". I am currently using 20" All Season Performance Pirellis and love the drive, zero issues.

This is why I am thinking of going 265/45 20".. larger sidewall