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Old 09-21-2015 | 01:28 AM
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I am a second owner of a 2013 Boxster. Its engine was scored this spring. And I sent it to ssss then get me a new one. I am selling it to make more room for the new comer. Just wanna know does it have any influence on price? (the new engine only has 2k miles although there are 16000 miles on the odometer)
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Originally Posted by takoyaki
I am a second owner of a 2013 Boxster. Its engine was scored this spring. And I sent it to ssss then get me a new one. I am selling it to make more room for the new comer. Just wanna know does it have any influence on price? (the new engine only has 2k miles although there are 16000 miles on the odometer)
Depends upon what you mean by "new". If the "new" engine was a replacement engine supplied by Porsche under warranty (or if out of warranty paid for by the owner out of his pocket) then the presence of the "new" engine shouldn't negatively affect price and it could perhaps positively affect price. I'm speaking from the perspective of the seller, you in this case.

If the "new" engine was something sourced from a scrap yard, or a engine rebuilder with a reputation that doesn't extend much beyond the corner gas station then the price can be affected. In fact you might find the car a hard sell unless you discount the price considerably.

If you have paperwork that clearly states the source of the engine and ideally why it was replaced -- to show that it wasn't abuse or mistreatment by you that caused the engine to require replacement -- that goes a long way towards providing peace of mind to a prospective buyer regarding the "new" engine.
Old 09-21-2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by takoyaki
I am a second owner of a 2013 Boxster. Its engine was scored this spring. And I sent it to ssss then get me a new one. I am selling it to make more room for the new comer. Just wanna know does it have any influence on price? (the new engine only has 2k miles although there are 16000 miles on the odometer)
Depends who ssss is!
Old 09-21-2015 | 05:11 PM
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I agree with the opinions posted above, and you might find other opinions that are more directly applicable if you posted this question in the 987-981 forum (you car is a 981).
I think that those who are looking for a newer, low mileage Boxster (2013, 16K miles) would tend to view a replacement engine negatively more often than not.
Were this question regarding a prior generation 987 or 986 Boxster, then the view might be predominantly positive.
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If I were offered this car, I'd be asking if the new engine had any fix that would cause me to believe that the problem that occurred with the first engine wouldn't soon happen to the second.

I'd ask maybe a $1k more but I'd be prepared to answer lots of questions about the source of the motor, the frequency of the original motor's problem, etc. I'd provide documentation. And proof of the warranty situation.
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Originally Posted by Spokayman
I agree with the opinions posted above, and you might find other opinions that are more directly applicable if you posted this question in the 987-981 forum (you car is a 981).
I think that those who are looking for a newer, low mileage Boxster (2013, 16K miles) would tend to view a replacement engine negatively more often than not.
Were this question regarding a prior generation 987 or 986 Boxster, then the view might be predominantly positive.
The OP is the second owner. So the question becomes would the 3rd owner, the potential 3rd owner of this car, be put off by the presence of a replacement engine?

That the 2nd owner is unloading the car after owning it for so short a time after putting just 2K on the car and with the car having only 16K miles I think these facts would tend to weigh as heavily on the car's value as anything.

Personally I would treat the presence of a fresh engine -- provided the engine came from a good source and for which I had documentation -- as a positive and while I might not bump the price I'd certainly not cut the price either.

Really though it doesn't matter what we think. To the OP: Put the car on the market. Price it based on your market research. If you can show the engine came from a good reliable source and as mikefocke covers provide any applicable paperwork and have the answer to the inevitable question of any warranty at hand see what effect if anything the new engine has on the sale of the car.
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Originally Posted by Macster
Depends upon what you mean by "new". If the "new" engine was a replacement engine supplied by Porsche under warranty (or if out of warranty paid for by the owner out of his pocket) then the presence of the "new" engine shouldn't negatively affect price and it could perhaps positively affect price. I'm speaking from the perspective of the seller, you in this case.

If the "new" engine was something sourced from a scrap yard, or a engine rebuilder with a reputation that doesn't extend much beyond the corner gas station then the price can be affected. In fact you might find the car a hard sell unless you discount the price considerably.

If you have paperwork that clearly states the source of the engine and ideally why it was replaced -- to show that it wasn't abuse or mistreatment by you that caused the engine to require replacement -- that goes a long way towards providing peace of mind to a prospective buyer regarding the "new" engine.
Thank all of you guys and your answers. Really helpful. The new engine runs very well. I got the engine by warranty from Porsche Roslyn. That could be find on carfax. According to the Porsche Owner's Manual, artificial damages are not warrantable. Paper work and email records are both available! Glad to hear that. Sounds like it affect the price positively!
Old 09-21-2015 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Macster
Depends upon what you mean by "new". If the "new" engine was a replacement engine supplied by Porsche under warranty (or if out of warranty paid for by the owner out of his pocket) then the presence of the "new" engine shouldn't negatively affect price and it could perhaps positively affect price. I'm speaking from the perspective of the seller, you in this case.

If the "new" engine was something sourced from a scrap yard, or a engine rebuilder with a reputation that doesn't extend much beyond the corner gas station then the price can be affected. In fact you might find the car a hard sell unless you discount the price considerably.

If you have paperwork that clearly states the source of the engine and ideally why it was replaced -- to show that it wasn't abuse or mistreatment by you that caused the engine to require replacement -- that goes a long way towards providing peace of mind to a prospective buyer regarding the "new" engine.
Originally Posted by Spokayman
I agree with the opinions posted above, and you might find other opinions that are more directly applicable if you posted this question in the 987-981 forum (you car is a 981).
I think that those who are looking for a newer, low mileage Boxster (2013, 16K miles) would tend to view a replacement engine negatively more often than not.
Were this question regarding a prior generation 987 or 986 Boxster, then the view might be predominantly positive.
why the 987/986 go differently with 981 when getting a replacement engine?
and I will post that in that forum. thanks man!
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Originally Posted by Macster
The OP is the second owner. So the question becomes would the 3rd owner, the potential 3rd owner of this car, be put off by the presence of a replacement engine?

That the 2nd owner is unloading the car after owning it for so short a time after putting just 2K on the car and with the car having only 16K miles I think these facts would tend to weigh as heavily on the car's value as anything.

Personally I would treat the presence of a fresh engine -- provided the engine came from a good source and for which I had documentation -- as a positive and while I might not bump the price I'd certainly not cut the price either.

Really though it doesn't matter what we think. To the OP: Put the car on the market. Price it based on your market research. If you can show the engine came from a good reliable source and as mikefocke covers provide any applicable paperwork and have the answer to the inevitable question of any warranty at hand see what effect if anything the new engine has on the sale of the car.

I put nearly 10k miles on it but 8k of them was on the previous one. I did search on cars.com, most dealers ask 50k on similar vehicles. Is there any other source I can use besides KBB and Cars.com?
Old 09-22-2015 | 12:37 AM
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No way a replacement engine no matter where it is from adds any value to a 3 year old car with 16,000 miles. Just the thought of dealership technicians replacing the motor devalues the vehicle. Place identical cars on the lot for the same price. I would expect the car with original 16,000 miles engine would sell first every time.

If we were talking a higher mileage car this may be a different story. (50, 60, 80,000 miles).
Old 09-22-2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by takoyaki
I put nearly 10k miles on it but 8k of them was on the previous one. I did search on cars.com, most dealers ask 50k on similar vehicles. Is there any other source I can use besides KBB and Cars.com?
You still only put just 2K miles on the replacement engine. This is going to sound a bit suspicious to potential buyers.

But you have a good reason for getting rid of the car. You are getting another car and need the room. It would help matters some if the "new" car was something above and beyond the Boxster.

There is www.nada.com you can use to get a used car price for your car. I can't think of any other sites off hand.

You can offer the car priced a bit under dealer used cars and use the lower price as a come on.

You can stress a low miles car with a fresh engine installed under warranty by a dealer and offered at a lower price than less desirable cars offered by dealers.

Be sure you have paperwork that clearly shows the engine was installed by the dealer and is covered under warranty and for how long, how many miles.

It would be nice too if all services were up to date so you could stress the new owner would need to do nothing for a long time after buying the car.
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See what Carmax will give you
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I prefer actual sales data to opinions since they diverge so much.
Case in point Boxster S 6 spd with 60k miles,perfect condition, LN Nickies 3.8L and huge amount spent by wealthy Pcar-enthusiast owner.Blue,in Colorado & offered by a Porsche Indie with great rep.
Had trouble getting bids above $13K. The engine +upgrades cost more than that ! Note the word "UPGRADES". The enhanced value(?) if any depends on exactly which upgrades,what brand of upgrade and who did the work. In this specific case, all the indications are strongly positive. But the value enhancement was poor.
Just search EBay "Sold Listings"(green #)in Advanced Search for hard data. It is depressing news if you have a Boxster S with lots of "valuable+intelligent" improvements/repairs(like me!).

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Old 09-24-2015 | 11:53 AM
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I would pay more for a rebuild engine with the IMS bearing and RMS replaced so yes, it does influence price.




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