Notices
Boxster & Boxster S (986) Forum 1996-2004

Okay Boxster guys, who has seen this engine failure:

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-27-2007 | 04:32 PM
  #1  
Mr Michael B's Avatar
Mr Michael B
Thread Starter

Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,328
Likes: 66
From: Central US of A
Default Okay Boxster guys, who has seen this engine failure:

2003 2.7 Boxster - 52K miles.

No issues. Driving along at 5/10's... Slow to turn at 30MPH or so, accelerate up to 60MPH shifting at 5500 each shift... Check engine light starts to blink, push clutch in & check gauges... All dash lights light up and engine dies. Smoke follows car as it rolls to the curb.

Oil below passenger side of engine. Engine cranks but no fire. Engine sounds out of time.

Pull engine & find:

Outboard oil pump froze, breaking the end off by the cam sprocket. Broken chunk drops onto chain & runs up along cam cover breaking it and spilling oil out, can timing of course jumps & valves hit pistons.

Anyone ever see that trick?
Attached Images    
Old 07-27-2007 | 05:18 PM
  #2  
99firehawk's Avatar
99firehawk
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 6
From: MIAMI
Default

yea ive seen it once or twice
Old 07-27-2007 | 05:18 PM
  #3  
99firehawk's Avatar
99firehawk
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 6
From: MIAMI
Default

take the pump apart and see what locked it up
Old 07-27-2007 | 05:33 PM
  #4  
Mr Michael B's Avatar
Mr Michael B
Thread Starter

Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,328
Likes: 66
From: Central US of A
Default

Will do.

Heck Brad. You may have worked on this car. It was a lease car from Miami. Pretty clean, no range 2 over-revs or anything. You happen to have replacement 2.7 for it? or 'ya think I should just replace the 1-3 head etc.
Old 07-27-2007 | 06:52 PM
  #5  
99firehawk's Avatar
99firehawk
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 6
From: MIAMI
Default

depends on what you find in the pump.
personaly id say do a 996 engine swap.
changing the head is ballsy as all that metal went through the bearings at some point, and you may find intresting parts in the oil pump.
Old 07-27-2007 | 07:43 PM
  #6  
pl's Avatar
pl
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,308
Likes: 2
From: great neck, li
Default

Originally Posted by 99firehawk
depends on what you find in the pump.
personaly id say do a 996 engine swap.
changing the head is ballsy as all that metal went through the bearings at some point, and you may find intresting parts in the oil pump.
can u return a 986 engine to porsche and get some core-credit when buying a reman. 996 engine?
Old 07-27-2007 | 08:06 PM
  #7  
99firehawk's Avatar
99firehawk
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 6
From: MIAMI
Default

nope
Old 07-27-2007 | 08:10 PM
  #8  
Mr Michael B's Avatar
Mr Michael B
Thread Starter

Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,328
Likes: 66
From: Central US of A
Default

Originally Posted by 99firehawk
depends on what you find in the pump.
personaly id say do a 996 engine swap.
changing the head is ballsy as all that metal went through the bearings at some point, and you may find intresting parts in the oil pump.
I will dig in & take a look.

I dont want this to be another engine swap hybrid with a 996 plant I just want this so my wife can go have coffee in it (which was working out quite well until this happened).

Porsche is telling me about $7600 for a new 2.7 over the counter.
Old 07-27-2007 | 08:26 PM
  #9  
senna21's Avatar
senna21
Racer
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by 99firehawk
yea ive seen it once or twice
Ever seen it on the 3.2? I'm thinking of getting an S and things like this scare the you know what out of me...
Old 07-28-2007 | 09:36 PM
  #10  
OrionKhan's Avatar
OrionKhan
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 591
Likes: 8
From: Colorado
Default

Hey, is this that same Boxter for your wife in this thread from a couple of weeks ago?
Old 07-28-2007 | 09:56 PM
  #11  
Mr Michael B's Avatar
Mr Michael B
Thread Starter

Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,328
Likes: 66
From: Central US of A
Default

Originally Posted by OrionKhan
Hey, is this that same Boxter for your wife in this thread from a couple of weeks ago?
Ha, yes. Sux to be me 'eh.

New replacement engine is on order.
Old 07-28-2007 | 11:02 PM
  #12  
OrionKhan's Avatar
OrionKhan
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 591
Likes: 8
From: Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by Michael B.
Ha, yes. Sux to be me 'eh.

New replacement engine is on order.
That does suck. I've actually been looking at doing the same thing you did. Get one as a surprise for the wife. You're scaring me though. I've already gone through a motor replacement on my S4(thrust bearing failure). Don't know if I want the worry.

The one positive of the new engine is that you shouldn't have any major problems with it for a long time. Good luck with it.
Old 07-29-2007 | 12:15 AM
  #13  
Mr Michael B's Avatar
Mr Michael B
Thread Starter

Lifetime Rennlist
Member

 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,328
Likes: 66
From: Central US of A
Default

Thank you Wade.

No big deal in the grand scheme of things. Dont let my experence stop you, Boxsters can be very good cars. I still like this one very much - as does my wife. I will just get it back on the road & forget about it.
Old 07-29-2007 | 11:42 PM
  #14  
PTEC's Avatar
PTEC
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 827
Likes: 1
Default

Check for check your valve springs and lifters. The pumps dont just lock up by themselves.
Old 07-30-2007 | 10:30 AM
  #15  
99firehawk's Avatar
99firehawk
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 6
From: MIAMI
Default

Originally Posted by senna21
Ever seen it on the 3.2? I'm thinking of getting an S and things like this scare the you know what out of me...

better get a schwin, any motor in any car can fail



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 02:10 AM.